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Reload: Thanks so much for stopping by. I don’t think this new information changes our collective appreciation, but it’s always good to give credit where credit is due. I hope you can pass our praise as well as an invitation, much the same, to Ashley Bognar & Mitchell Kruik. So long as the creators and Sidney museum would not object I wonder; do we have any Sindeysiders who could go by the museum and grab a few shots with a zoom lens? Cousarmy0001: Well, now the likeness is stunning. Perhaps you’ve hit on it indeed. I don’t think this method would be great for a fighting ship with a gun battery piercing the sides, but as I’ve said before, they don’t all have to be men-of-war and pirates. With a break down, this seems like something that could definitely be repeated by our mates attempting upon more benign prizes… err, ships . Any chances you could take a few more shots of your version to show more of its construction? Phred: Thanks for the assist on flickr sleuthing!
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You really won’t see damage in the short term so long as the bricks are sharing the load. Cheap bricks/knock-offs are a different story and can crease sand discolor easily. I the long term you may find that your bricks don’t want to straighten out. OK if you’re not planning to disassemble the thing or will reuse the bricks for a similar build, but consider the bricks of my MO ships married to the project indefinitely. Your technique is already up there with Maydayartist. Logging your break down may help to do what we never could off Revenge and repeat the process. All your mounts are on the same plane. Perhaps you could build them so that they can swivel to meet the walls more cleanly. As it is, just abaft amidships, there is a strange depression where the wall is pressed I to meet the next support back. The bow is going to be quite a challenge. With the actually curved tumblehome, matching up to it will complicate matters. Typically the tumblehome doesn’t extend around front, especially where there is a cut-out for the heads, but it will still have to transition smoothly to look right. The very simple tile on plate method of Bumblebee might serve to some extent, but wouldn’t be so handy of you were trying to put any holes, like gun ports or the like in the structure. Perhaps some hybrid of the conventional method and SNOT bricks akin to CGH’s EL Gran Grin’s construction. how's it done on Matterhorn? I agree with the good captain, if you’re considering trying to work sheer in, like Revenge. Start incorporating it now. It’s been the hardest thing to go back and try to work in on my own stuff. Are the technic squares just handy for covering space or are they intended to be the hatchways? I think the scaling is really good if that’ the case. Ships are often wider than we perceive, but if it’s for mini-figs they’ll be much like my own, mostly for show and not interaction.
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Hey now… It’s totally true , but I can still have respect for the thing, even if I don’t subscribe. Purism has value in certain realms, particularly where direct comparison is key or where promoting the brand is concerned. I too distinctly remember seeing good examples offered here before but upon pursuing the MOC Index once again found very few at all. I did find these three good examples offered up in a similar discussion on Classic Castle. Though they are medieval rigs and far simpler than most of what you’ll see around here I think they show some merit. It seems it can be done, on at least a limited scale. Check em out: Lomero Stone-Goblin Hippotam The topic where I found them In my searching I also found this old CP topic form back in 2006. DO NOT bump it, please, but take a look. I found it interesting that many of the same sentiments were expressed back then. Perhaps the community just isn’t going to accept brick-building sails as a viable option, but I argue that there simply hasn’t been enough development. At one point the CGH method was seen as the pinnacle of Lego ship building, but since then his work has inspired many builders to approach the craft from different perspectives and as a result we’ve now have several new techniques emerging. I’m not ready to close the books on this just yet, not even with old hearts-of-oak like the captain himself as proponents against it.
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[ESL-3T2] Sloop El Gran Grin
kurigan replied to Captain Green Hair's topic in Brethren of the Brick Seas
This is good use of those narrow white hulls. The hiding of the black insets worked out so very well that I had to look twice to see what you were meant. How is it you get those anchor cables to pass through the deck with grill tiles? When I considered how I could do different colors outside and in, I was thinking plates which would leave a less slightly inside wall. This works out very well, having smooth plastic on both sides. If only i had enough side studded bricks, I have to wonder how well it would work on my curved hulls. Here it just looks great and I agree the tiled side seems to suggest at planks. The slight rim of red on the gun ports may have been unintentional but is and interesting bit of character. As always your rigging and weathered sails are a treat. I like the tiny cabin, just something endearing about these kinds of cutters. I think it might add a touch of flare if you did muntins on the windows like on good-old Vesta. You’ve an interesting gun design there as well. Though I’m still working on how submissions will be cataloged it would be great if you could submit a break down to The Foundry. -
I rarely comment on land-based MOCs, my "expertise" being the sea-going variety, but there is just something charming about this one. Perhaps it's just nostalgic. I feel your pain though; there are just never enough bricks for our latest, best ideas
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No need to feel restrained or chastised, in fact, thanks for stepping up. Perhaps I should have used some smiles my self. I'm just trying to encourage the sharing of ideas and opinions with out anyone feeling picked-on or harassed. I know those guys are pretty ok with criticism as I've had conversations with them on their own threads, but what about outsiders or potential members? So to everyone, not just you (bad thanks for being my lighting rod), do, share, comment. Be critical if you are so moved, just don't assume that everyone knows your basically-a-good-guy and do take that extra moment to explain yourself. I see your point. You can see some figs on the Carrick and its clear by that comparison that these are rather impracticality large MOC for private purposes. I know either one would take up all my space. Perhaps I picked bad examples, but isn't there anyone out there with a MOC to prove the theory, or at least enough spare bricks to give it a shot?
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Please refrain from bumping old topics. This topic hasn't been active since 2009, 7 years ago. In this particular case the originator has been banned from the site and cannot appreciate your comments anyway. For your own edification please see Bumping Old Topics and review the Site Guidelines Thank you.
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My mistake, you are correct sir. looks like EJRED has some company under the bus . Apologies. Still though, lets hear a little more on the matter.
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Wo there cully. It's one thing to have an opinion, but let's not go slandering our mates. That certainly was never the intent here, and we don’t want to seem exclusive. What is your particular concern with floating sails, since you've brought it up. Only seems fair that you offer a little more by way of explanation so long as your naming names as example.
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Here I go groveling but: Then surely a builder of your caliber is acquainted with the master in question. Any hope of getting him to make an appearance on behalf of his work of art?
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This is starting to feel like a bit of a miss-fire, but come on mates; the prevailing sentiment can't be all negative. Who actually likes the idea? There's got to be someone out there who's seen such a build and though "hey, there's a good idea" or "wow, that looks impressive". Come on out of the woodwork, give your two cents. How about someone who's actually built something of the like? I know you are all out there, join in! I did reach out to the museums mentioned but have not heard back, so the original builders of my examples remain a mystery.
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Interesting. To do as Begir suggests you have to do something about the futtox shrouds. Those are the lines which run from the mast up to the crosstrees to anchor the topmast shrouds. See, the yoke on the gaff can't pass them to get any higher. You could do one of two things though, as it's not a bad suggestion. On the one hand, and I'm just noticing this, you don’t have any topmast shrouds in place, so you could simply for go them. On the other if you wanted to install the missing shrouds or at least keep the futtox shrouds, they can be anchored to the lower shrouds instead of the mast. Put a stopper knot at the height you want the to attach and tie them below that so they slide up that far and no farther. This is the actual historic way of doing this. I tried this on Ramcat before settling on anchoring the futtox shrouds to the mast but found that the tension of the topmast shrouds misshaped the shrouds to a degree that was unsightly.
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They are 3D printed, but Because Shapeways still has a limited color pallet, they come black. There is no brown on their list so it’s black, white or some color that would just look silly; though you could paint them. As things progress I may move production away from shapeways but for now they will serve me well as I build a catalog. Right now these pins are the only thing in my shop but there’s more on the way. Currently I have them in a 20 pack but if someone were really interested I could very simply make a larger or smaller pack to serve their purposes. As for how many per ship it varies of course depending on the rig. On Ramcat I used 26 pins and Nonesuch, 42. For Blanid I’m trying to get away with a mere 30. Depending on the intricacy of your rig I’d guess about 20-30 per-mast.
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Trying something new here, join in and show your support! Though I am a proponent of functional cloth sails myself I am still fascinated and often impressed my brick-built sails on Lego ships. For a static model, it’s often a superior way to capture action or suggest motion while maintaining Lego purity in a MOC. Unlike most everything else about Lego ship building though there is little to no convention on the matter. We even give names to the different hull building techniques, write tutorials on cloth sail making and keep indices to categorize all the different ships and elements. So my intent here is to start a discussion and gather examples with which to create that convention for ourselves and encourage the pursuit in future builds. To start things off I’m going to reference two museum displays which, sadly, are no more, but have very impressive sails. I shared this Schooner some time ago and was informed in the original topic that it was no longer there. These are some of the best I’ve personally seen, with very realistic bolster and bellies. The more impressive thing is that it appears to be using all Lego elements to support all that. I stumbled across this carrack the other night and it too was part of a museum's display, but the Canadian Science and Technology Museum has sadly closed its doors. The hull here is rather impressive in its own right but the sails here are very convincing. Form the one image I can find I can’t tell what the masts are made of. LEGO® Ferdinand Magellan by Canada Science and Technology Museum, on Flickr It looks like that same schooner came from or wound up in the same display. Both of my examples here raise the question: can an all Lego rig support all Lego sails? What do you all think? Go ahead and add your own examples. If anyone knows the creator’s of these MOCs, please get us in contact with them or at least make them aware of this post. We’d love to have their input on the discussion.
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Chiming back in here. Personally I figured you would have had to glue them in place. The train couplers came to mind but you'd still have to replace and glue different magnets in place as the originally would be nothing like strong enough. I’m curious though, did you or flikr compress the video at all? There seems to be a certain jitteriness about the car's progress and I wonder if it's the video or the thickness of the plate causing the magnet to get ahead of the car. What I’m thinking is that you could use a thinner piece of material instead of the base plates and build up the surrounding environment with bricks. Yes it would be less pure and maybe not look quite so Legoy, but could solve that jitter and still look as good as the effort you wind up putting into it. Well just an idea. Still love the thing any way.
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I'm glad you pushed me to reconsider it. I was disappointed when I had to shrink the fore hatch and loose that companionway to accommodate the gun, but the new version aft makes up for it. Look, I can even hint at the mini-fig crew using it, even though we all know their arms won't actually fit. Anyone have an opinion or suggestion in this new or the old tiller? The rudder head where it attaches is a 44302. I just don’t know if either version is all that convincing or appealing, but the tiny quarterdeck means I can’t fit a whole lot in there. Don’t want the captain coming on deck only to get knocked out by a swinging tiller. FYI everyone. That windowed structure on the quarter deck is just a skylight for the great cabin below. I took a queue from Lynx which has a similarly high housing over the fore hatch. At first I thought I was a bit odd for a man-of-war, but in time saw the value in the tall windows and noted that there was still plenty of room to work the guns. I figure, if Blanid hadn’t been fitted with her one big gun, there would have been another such housing over the waist like lynx. Here’s a picture of the inspiration.
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Brilliant!. Newcomer to the thread and all the while I was reading I was wondering if you could mount a magnet strong enough to pull through the base plates but it looks like you have. TYhis is awesome.
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[MOC] LEGO Pirate Ship Ride (Motorized by M-motor)
kurigan replied to ProjectGBK's topic in LEGO Town
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Hum. I'm afraid I may have misrepresented my intentions. I don't mean to be so much critical of the shift in the bricks up forward as concerned and wondering if I could help out. Thank you for the break-down shot. Yours winds up very similar to my own technique, go check out my fleet and you'll see (everything's linked on my profile). Any way, I mean what I say; she's quite nice. If the effect doesn't bother you, then MOC-on! and don't mind me.
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While I appreciate your attempt to engage in conversation and its clear that you are not only not a bot but actually took an interest I need to ask you to refrain from bumping old topics. The last time this was commented on shows in the time stamp as back in 2011.
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before i get all gushy, because i do like her, im a bit courious. you see i use a very similar technique to quite some extent and I don't understand what's going on with the bricks towards the bow. There's just some kind of shift, a disposition if you will, that I've never gotten on my builds. That being said if there is one criticism, I'd suggest that more might have been done to close the gap at the prow. Otherwise I love her. Its a good application of technique and full of clever problem solving and parts usage. Plastic bag for the sail, that's brilliant! I don't always make it out this far but I'm glad I did tonight. Thanks for sharing.
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Just another small detail. I worked on the coach top skylight and companion way assembly. I was never entirely satisfied and once it was pointed out I couldn’t force myself to accept it anymore; so here’s the new one. Still imperfect but still a lot better. edit: now showing a new version, dropped by one plate, looks even better. I also did some work to the bowsprit which will be unappreciable until the standing rigging is started, but edging closer to ready for that step.
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Wow, mar iously well done. Such a simple but effective technique for the chain mail. I'm appreciate the prominence you give with a bit of the history too.
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Nice scene, I really get the sens of weariness on the solders behalf. your customs are very well some as well. Thanks for sharing!
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aye, I tried those and where they sort-of look the part they lack the lower portion and just don't function like the real thing. This wasn't suppoused to be an advertisement though,so i'll leave off on that here. sorry Thanks though! Yar, that be Handsome Pete...