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Since a little moment, I wanted to make a Citroën DS for 2 reasons:

  • This car has a very particular design and it had an innovative mecanic
  • It has not prevously been made in Technic. So I can be the first! ^^

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I wanted to reproduce all the features:

  • Suspension
  • Steering with the headlights moving with the wheels
  • Height adjustment using pneumatic (Just up/down, not intermédiary)
  • Gearbox (not defivitive yet, see below)
  • Openable hood, trunk and doors
  • Perhaps the body will be detachable (like the Nico71's 2CV)
  • And a nice design! :laugh:

 

Actually, I did the chassis. It is not finished, but almost.

And it was very complicated to make, this chassis! On the real car, almost all the macanic is in the front part of he car (under the hood). The problem is that it's not really possible in Lego, furthermore I wanted a chassis' height of 3 studs. So, I put the gearbox in the back of the chassis. That is working, but it's not realistic. So can you answer this question: do you like this construction, or do you perfer that I try to put a 2 speed gearbox just under the engine?

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Here, you can see the headlights moving with the wheels:

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It's simple, but we don't see that on supercars. :laugh:

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There is not HOG yet. I don't know if it will be the steering wheel only, or if there will be one other on the dashboard.

 

The chassis height adjustment allows almost put it down.

The suspensions are soft. They give to the car a "boat" effect.

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And the gearbox:

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It is linked to the front wheels, but not actually to the engine.

 

I wanted a DBG body, but the parts don't exist in this colour. So, it will be white.

Tell me what you think about this begining!

:classic:

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Good start with that all functionality. I'm building Isetta. Main mechanics was somehow easy, now stucjked on body. This also will be hard, if only made with flex axles.

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looks good so far. Have you included the fact that the car can lift one of its rear wheels clear off the ground and still drive around on the other 3 ?

I think as well as lowering the car it can also jack itself up slightly from "normal" position

 

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Nice start!

I'm a little concerned about the max steering angle though. The Citroen DS had a quite narrow turning circle despite its length, but the LEGO CV-joints will only allow for slightly more than 0.5 studs movement in the steering pivots.

5 minutes ago, Seasider said:

the car can lift one of its rear wheels clear off the ground and still drive around on the other 3

Like this:

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6 minutes ago, Seasider said:

I think as well as lowering the car it can also jack itself up slightly from "normal" position

I can confirm this. Btw, normal position = normal driving position. When parked, the suspension pressure drops and the car defaults to the lowest position.

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Nice! I think that if the car is a four-speed, leave the gearbox the way it is. Form the outside, nobody will see where it is (most likely).

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Wow, this is a nice task. I am looking forward to see the final product (I like Nico's 2CV).

Of course DS could be driven with only 3 wheels. It's a French car - they do tend to occasionally lose a part or two.

(Don't get mi wrong - I have a French car and I kind of like it:-)

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4 hours ago, Seasider said:

Have you included the fact that the car can lift one of its rear wheels clear off the ground and still drive around on the other 3 ?

I'll see. That would be great, but it will be necessary to have the good balance and a very rigid chassis.

 

2 hours ago, teflon said:

It's a French car - they do tend to occasionally lose a part or two.

(Don't get mi wrong - I have a French car and I kind of like it:-)

Hey, I'm french! Don't say bad things about the french cars! :laugh:

 

I'll work on the bodywork. And I'll see for the chassis, if it's necessary to make another one or if I can change this one to make it better.

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Sorry, no bad jokes about French cars.

Regarding the gearbox - it's a tough dilema. I remember discussing Nico's 2CV with my kid ad we were absolutely blown away by comparing radar pictures of actual 2CV with the Nico's one. And DS is a bit further down the iconic lane. But I would say leave the gearbox as is. The function is in my opinion of greater importance than the proper positioning.

 

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Looks very promising. That bodywork looks like it will be quite tricky, though. And I think you should stick to the original gearbox, meaning the one you have in it now.

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Looks like a good start, I like the simple method of linking the front lights and wheels. :thumbup: Definitely keep the gearbox how it is, don't change it unless you absolutely must.

And good luck with the bodywork!

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How is the gearbox connected to the engine or the front axle? I only see one axle running from the gearbox to the front. The placement of the gearbox is okay, even if it's not realistic, but a gearbox which doesn't actually change gears between the engine and the wheels is pointless.

EDIT: now I see the axle running on the right side, I guess that will connect the engine to the gearbox.
Anyway, the chassis looks awesome so far.

Edited by Lipko

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Cool! One of the most beautiful cars ever build. Looking forward to the result!

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11 hours ago, teflon said:

Sorry, no bad jokes about French cars.

I was jocking, you tell can everything about the french cars! :wink:

 

So, I'll keep the gearbox as it is now.

@Lipko Yes, the gearbox is not connected to the engine. To do that, I have to work on the bodywork before. Then, I'll can know how to hide the gearbox's axis by the interior.

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23 hours ago, Didumos69 said:

Nice start!

I'm a little concerned about the max steering angle though. The Citroen DS had a quite narrow turning circle despite its length, but the LEGO CV-joints will only allow for slightly more than 0.5 studs movement in the steering pivots.

I can confirm this. Btw, normal position = normal driving position. When parked, the suspension pressure drops and the car defaults to the lowest position.

That's what I meant. The car has 3 suspension positions. Car on its lowest setting for "Off" / "parked", Car on "Normal" setting for driving, and finally "raised" setting for extreme of suspension travel. The "trick" of the car driving on 3 wheels is you could make it individually raise and lower a wheel so you could set 3 to "raised" and one to "low" where the "low" would appear to be retracted into the body

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I started a little the bodywork. The only thing I have to say is that it's very difficult !

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The doors will be especially difficult to make. To be closest to the reality, the have to get a slight curvature from the front to the rear. But in Technic, with the existing parts, it will be difficult difficult !

But not impossible ! :classic:

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Anto your goddess looks technically solid and the body work seems good. Just one question: Did you leave out the directional lights of a DS on purpose? Or is it not fitting in this scale?

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On 6/19/2017 at 1:16 PM, Anto said:

The chassis height adjustment allows almost put it down.

The suspensions are soft. They give to the car a "boat" effect.

Looks great. I could only suggest not to trust suspension behaviour at this point as your model will get heavier. So if you have soft setup right now you won't have any suspension with a body attached.

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Oh this is going to be a very good looking vehicle, if that small amount of bodywork is anything to go by 

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I'll really enjoy to watch this car grow. Personally, I would not be afraid of using also system elements (curved slopes, especially) to achieve fluent lines. :)

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@I_Igor: yes, Luis de Funes was very popular in our (ex)-country but I do connect him more to 2CV than DS.

But I was looking at google image search and I found this. I hope this will be available as an upgrade kit:-)

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3 hours ago, teflon said:

@I_Igor: yes, Luis de Funes was very popular in our (ex)-country but I do connect him more to 2CV than DS.

But I was looking at google image search and I found this. I hope this will be available as an upgrade kit:-)

 

It was sister Clotilde usually driving and recycling 2CV. 

BTW I was always watching ORF ( Austrian tv). jugoslavian tv was komunistic propaganda and their legacy is even today toxic poison in every Country that raised after fall of jugoslavia - preventing notmal life and humanity in new Countries. :ugh:

Upgrade kit looks a bit like submarine :grin:

For this model I prefer look from 1950s - first generation models...

Edited by I_Igor

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