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Something I noticed while looking at the 42141 MCL F1 car was the complete lack of any flex axles. I miss the suggested lines and curves achieved by using flex axles to create a more organic, smooth design. The new car looks way too jagged and rough around the edges IMO. Discuss.

Uh this is a sore disappointment. The paneling around the side pods are a complete letdown… come on Lego!

I don’t really understand the backlash either. It’s clearly NOT a blatant copy paste of Jorge’s F40, at least in terms of the bodywork. Yes it was inspired by it, but the builder gave him credit and did the right thing. If I was Jorge I would be proud that my MOC is so legendary that people are basing their MOCs off of it… To OP, it’s stunning! Great job with the paneling, I love how it’s covered but not cluttered. That’s a hard line to walk.

@Ngoc Nguyen I appreciate the well thought out response! I guess I approached this build with a different mindset but I now your understand perspective on C-models. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this model, in fact it’s far better than anything I could produce. I was just wondering what you would be capable of building using…well all the parts instead of a select few! But I understand your approach to it, and at the end of the day if this brings you joy then that’s what counts!

This is an excellent model, but why are you needlessly constraining yourself to a that no one else has? A c-model for a set has purpose if it’s one that’s readily available to the general public. If not, why wouldn’t you just focus on making the best model possible using any and all the parts that you require, instead of using a limited selection of parts from one set?

This is freaking incredible. I cannot wait to see it in action!!

Phenomenal, deserves frontpaging! any videos?

This looks fantastic… except for the front end/fenders. It looks rather unfinished. Have you considered using the wheel arches from the set here? (Instead if at the trunk)

Not to turn this into a fanboy war, but I completely agree. Congrats @kbalage!

You could just not open the thread, you know? You need to understand that some people don’t mind, and may even enjoy the continuous updates.

Wow! IMO that is VERY good looking. I’m not sold on the proportions yet, but eagerly looking forward to seeing a rough build of the entire body before I judge.

Wow. Words can’t convey how excited I am for this project. But… is it me or is the wheelbase a seem a little too long?

While it's true that modern large technic panels allow for easier surfacing in large models, I completely disagree that it is better for capturing detail - quite the opposite actually. The larger the average piece, the more detail you lose in the model. Which is why most technic models abstract away fine details of cars into lines created by flex axles or even strategically placed gaps.. nothing wrong with that approach, but it certainly does not make it a better medium for scale modelling or creating accurate bodywork. I believe you associate larger builds being almost exclusively technic, because that's the precedent that's been set so far. Creating large models with technic is highly advantageous for a multitude of reasons: reduced part count, reduced weight, reduced complexity between connections and rigidity to name a few... but that doesn't preclude it from being the only medium or even the best medium for creating complex, detailed surfaces. It makes it easier, for sure, but not better. In fact there are actually a number of gems out there that highlight how much better system is for capturing detail and creating more authentic looking models, here are a couple large scale models that are almost entire brick-built: Credit goes to all the amazing MOCers that built these models. Take a look at the recent Titanic or the Space Shuttle set for more TLG examples too, as kblage pointed out! On top of all that, don't forget that the only reason technic may be better for "large curved surfaces" is because they released specialized parts just for that purpose! Back in the day, when the 8448 was released, you wouldn't have been able to find a single large technic panel akin to what we build with these days... the argument of "system can only look good with specialized pieces" doesn't really have any ground to stand on, since you could argue that a majority of the panels we use today are indeed specialized pieces themselves! Look no further than the 1:8 wheel arches released with the UCS 911 ;) While I have thoroughly enjoyed this spirited argument, maybe we should move this to a different topic or end it here, and not derail the intent of the original thread :)

This is one of the most exciting builds I’ve seen here in a while! Please keep the updates coming :)

10295 911 is one of the most beautiful Lego cars I’ve ever built/seen. Firas’ b-model is also stunning and a good example of what you can do with system bricks… 1:8 lego cars allow for “smoother” bodywork due to their sheer size rather than an inherent quality of technic. If a panel is a pixel, the larger the image, the better you can make your curves look and vice versa… look no further than small scale technic cars for proof. I understand that this is a strong opinion to voice in the technic forum, but even the best technic bodywork leaves a lot to be desired for someone who’s not indoctrinated into technic culture. In a sense, it’s like abstract art - it doesn’t make sense to a lot of people, but once you learn more about it’s history, and engage with the drawing you learn to appreciate it more and more…

Which is why trying to recreate actual cars in technic is futile… go through painstaking effort to build clever mechanisms only to hide it all up with a half baked body that’a only recognizable as the real car when you squint hard. Leave the pretty bodywork up to creator expert. Focus on what makes technic, technic..

Really hoping for a solid set here. I wouldn’t even be mad if this replaced the UCS super car which has just been the same old thing with a new body every release…

Oof, silly me. For some reason it escaped me that those hubs have axle holes instead of pin holes.

Beautiful. Suggestion - can you angle the windshield wiper up to create the illusion of a glass windscreen? The A pillar placement makes it look a little strange without an actual curved windscreen..

I’m confused. Could you not have used a #3 with a stop? Sweet MOC btw, I love it :) congrats

I’m not sure I follow your logic. The black pin shown has 4 slots distributed at an interval of pi/2. This means it’ll have compliance in both x and y directions. You could theoretically reduce the effect of this by rotating it so that the slots are diagonal in the hole, but either way the amount of stiffness you’d gain would so minuscule that it’s purely mind games at that point. just my take. Happy to be proven wrong :)

Dude, what are you like, a wizard? I ogled over this MOC a couple of days ago, but never paid attention to who made it. You built this AND that stunning Peterbilt? Wow… Please keep them coming!!

I’m also very excited about seeing scale models here…I would 100% pay for instructions for a lot of these that I have seen in the last few days!! OP - just stunning really…. This is inspiring me to go build something :)

Pneumatics may have a more “realistic” mode of operation, but honestly their movement is so jerky, unpredictable and unrealistic that I prefer LAs > pneumatics every time. Plus the realism argument is a moot point, since industrial equipment uses hydraulics out of necessity due to the high forces it can impart with pressurized incompressible liquids. Electromechanical actuators are quieter, more precise, more reliable and requires less maintenance… I believe the tech is just very expensive and not quite there yet for high load applications. I’m sure with global electrification we’d see that pendulum swing the other way! Lego was just ahead of the curve ;)

Look at the 22961 pin connectors between the two sections…. Something is definitely going to cover up that gap ;)