42154 - 2022 Ford GT

[msk6003]

8 minutes ago, NoEXIST said:

Here it is! There is definitely something new.

 

When I first saw this image, I think it was structurally possible with existing parts. but it is not. If use existing parts that makes 6L. Definitely something new.

[keymaker]

13 minutes ago, msk6003 said:

When I first saw this image, I think it was structurally possible with existing parts. but it is not. If use existing parts that makes 6L. Definitely something new.

Or they just used standard CV joints and didn't care about misalignment since in such small difference and range of movement it won't be a problem.

Edited January 2, 2023 by keymaker

[GerritvdG]

Original hi-res image of the internals,  not sharp in some interesting spots though.

https://www.lego.com/cdn/cs/set/assets/blt98842f56c3fda4c2/42154_alt7.png

and the 360: https://www.lego.com/cdn/cs/set/assets/blt3ccf549734269aff/42154_v1.mp4

[Ngoc Nguyen]

This is the first proper side view

[LvdH]

The black shock absorbers look longer than 6.5 long. 

[2GodBDGlory]

47 minutes ago, keymaker said:

Or they just used standard CV joints and didn't care about misalignment since in such small difference and range of movement it won't be a problem.

I don't think they can, though, because in that image there are only four studs of space between the hub and the H-frame, so no series of CV/Universal joints can fit in there, unless they only use one CV joint at the one end, and nothing at the other end, which seems like a very bad idea. It seems to look like this:

7 minutes ago, LvdH said:

The black shock absorbers look longer than 6.5 long. 

They do rather look that way, but I expect it's just an illusion. I'm happy to see the black again, though!

[keymaker]

7 minutes ago, 2GodBDGlory said:

I don't think they can, though, because in that image there are only four studs of space between the hub and the H-frame, so no series of CV/Universal joints can fit in there, unless they only use one CV joint at the one end, and nothing at the other end, which seems like a very bad idea. It seems to look like this:

They do rather look that way, but I expect it's just an illusion. I'm happy to see the black again, though!

You are right and I'm happy to be wrong. I didn't noticed the frame. In such case yes, it needs to be something new. And it is great news! Such parts like cardan/CV joints are always welcomed.

Edited January 2, 2023 by keymaker

[Jundis]

5 minutes ago, keymaker said:

Such parts like cardan/CV joints are always welcomed

Yep, I really hope they introduce a new part here. It's maybe also put in good use for the Audi E-Tron, if it's a RC-vehicle with AWD...

[gyenesvi]

1 hour ago, NoEXIST said:

Here it is! There is definitely something new.

Whoaa, that picture tells it all! It's 15 wide, and there's a frame in the middle, so something new must be involved. And it's probably with the old CV joint, because the new one would not fit in between those connectors. Did they just use something like Cada has? Or maybe it's a U-joint with two 2L axles?

48 minutes ago, LvdH said:

The black shock absorbers look longer than 6.5 long. 

That would be really nice, but I checked the build virtually and it seems to add up nicely with the 6.5 length.. I also suspected that something must be going on here, because neither this, nor the Batbike would really warrant a new black color. My guess was that they would be medium hard.

This time the steering geometry is also correct, because the front uses 6L arms! So all the negative reviews about the Raptor being RWD only finally had its effect and they seem to have listened :)

Can you guys make out what diff it has? It's probably an old DBG one as far as I can tell. I was trying to figure out the routing of the drivetrain, it probably goes backwards first through a 20T tan bevel gear and then comes back to the pistons. But what is that DBG gear there in the back? It should be a 12T sitting above the 20T, but it's neither black, nor LBG, nor blue.. And not an 8T in DBG..

[Erik Leppen]

The more I'm seeing about this, the more I like it. And I'm not a car person, at least not for sets, but I think I can wait a bit with the Bolide and may pick this up instead. 1:12 is a great scale that offers enough space for some functions, but it doesn't come with all the empty space that the 1:10 cars have.

Also, kudos to the people here that have deduced that there have to be new parts in the rear suspension. Curious what Lego have come up with.

Also good to see the black shocks and lots of new stuff in dark blue :)

For now, the only thing I'm not liking so far is the seats, that seem to be rather open. But maybe I'm just not seeing things correctly :)

[SNIPE]

This set is making me party in my head!, it has an absolute TON of recolors in dark blue.

New panel pices in black/dark blue including the trans clear headlights. new CV joints

AND it has the black shock absorbers, 3x11 girders, and opening doors, engine, diff,

opening bonnet, opening engine cover, suspension, steering and opening engine cover.

I wonder if the steering wheel also moves as well as the HOG knob on the roof because I see a few gears used fror the steeringg.

I did try to make the tires more low profile, it shaves about half a plate off the diamiter but it requires having 2 ZNAP tires stretched over the rim.

But since the wheel arches have quite large gaps anyhow, I think it would be better to just lower the car (but then you would have almost no suspention travel)

So I think Ill just leave that as is and focus on hiding the blue and red parts, improving the bodywork, etc.because I want to be able to 'feel' the suspention when I push down on the car.

Edited January 2, 2023 by SNIPE

[NoEXIST]

2 minutes ago, SNIPE said:

This set is making me party in my head!, it has an absolute TON of recolors in dark blue , new panel pices in black/darkblue including the trans clear headlights.

AND it has the black shock absorbers, 3x11 girders, and opening doors, engine, diff, opening bonnet, opening engine cover, suspension, steering and opening engine cover

I wonder if the steering wheel also moves as well as the HOG knob on the roof..

I did try to make the tires more low profile, it shaves about half a plate off the diamiter but it requires having 2 ZNAP tires stretched over the rim

But since the wheel arches have quite large gaps anyhow, I think it would be better to just lower the car (but then you would have almost no suspention travel)

So I think Ill just leave that as is and focus on hiding the blue and red parts, improving the bodywork, etc.

Sport suspension mode can be a great feature as on real one:) But it probably will be difficult to squeeze it inside 

[Citromon]

On 1/1/2023 at 5:21 PM, Void_S said:

It is Ford GT 2022 which is significantly different from the original one from 1964 ("Ford vs Ferrari" movie).
The Lego set is not Ford GT'64 at all, for sure...

I get that, and I do think this model look good at this cale but not as a Ford GT. Just not for me)

[Zerobricks]

I hope the new joint turns out to be an inverted u joint which is made out of 2L axles. 

Also I think a 1:12 scale type cars are here to stay, I predict upcoming models will get new wheels with deeper mounting points 

Well done, Milan! 

[1gor]

4 minutes ago, Zerobricks said:

I predict upcoming models will get new wheels with deeper mounting points 

I suppose you mean something like "Defender" wheel only 43.2mm in diameter...

[2GodBDGlory]

Just now, 1gor said:

I suppose you mean something like "Defender" wheel only 43.2mm in diameter...

I remember discussing that when the Raptor came out, and it was decided that the downside to it would be that steering hubs wouldn't be able to fit inside, diminishing the advantages. I still think it's worth it, though, even if it limits the front axle to the smaller hubs like in this set.

[NoEXIST]

2 minutes ago, 1gor said:

I suppose you mean something like "Defender" wheel only 43.2mm in diameter...

I would be happier with narrower 56mm wheels:) 

[msk6003]

And I hope this set include 1x1 beam in dark blue. I planned to make Ford escort RS1800 but it need blue, dark azure, dark blue 1x1 beam and tube.

[1gor]

10 minutes ago, 2GodBDGlory said:

 the downside to it would be that steering hubs wouldn't be able to fit inside, diminishing the advantages

plausible; but still hope for some idea how to make narrower axle usung reduction hubs...(which probably wont fit inside such wheel)

[msk6003]

10 minutes ago, NoEXIST said:

I would be happier with narrower 56mm wheels:) 

Yes! I also want 56mm wheel which has 27~28mm width.

[NoEXIST]

1 minute ago, msk6003 said:

Yes! I also want 56mm wheel which has 27~28mm width.

It's already 27~28mm, I think more useful should be something like 20mm

[msk6003]

4 minutes ago, NoEXIST said:

It's already 27~28mm, I think more useful should be something like 20mm

Are you saying wheel used in this ford GT? Than I missed. I said 15038 racing wheel medium. It's size is 56x34.

[NoEXIST]

1 minute ago, msk6003 said:

Are you saying wheel used in this ford GT? Than I missed. I said 15038 racing wheel medium. It's size is 56x34.

I mean it's cool to have narrower whole wheel (tire is 56mm)... I'm used to naming wheels by their outside diameter, including tires.

[keymaker]

2 hours ago, Zerobricks said:

Also I think a 1:12 scale type cars are here to stay, I predict upcoming models will get new wheels with deeper mounting points 

It would be so natural and even more appreciated! We have rims with good mounting points in small size (30mm) and also in big size (56mm). All I need is something like that for medium size rims (43.2mm).

[Zerobricks]

I think the spoiler is activated by a handle with a red towball pin near the center console. I also think a 16L link is used for that purpose in a simillar fashion as 42115.