Kaijumeister Posted Wednesday at 04:51 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:51 PM 1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said: So let me get this straight. There’s a scene in the movie, featured in all the trailers thus far, that involves a middle sized speeder that could be made with around 100 pieces, with exactly 4 stormtroopers and Lego didn’t think to turn it into a battlepack for the movie wave? This the TIE Avenger and as @BrickBob Studpants points out with TK Troopers… What is it with Lego and fumbling Imperial set opportunities currently?! What an absurd notion, I’d rather have more buildable figures thanks. /s Fun little clip by the way, the way the Imperial (think his name is Coin?) slowly turns his head to stare at Mando after Grogu almost blows them up is hilarious. Quote
Yperio_Bricks Posted Wednesday at 05:45 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:45 PM 2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: So let me get this straight. There’s a scene in the movie, featured in all the trailers thus far, that involves a middle sized speeder that could be made with around 100 pieces, with exactly 4 stormtroopers and Lego didn’t think to turn it into a battlepack for the movie wave? I would like to know who at Lego generally makes these decisions. How much do the designers have to say? Is there some higher up suit deciding which sets get made. Is it a panel with people from different departments? Do they have to talk about every set with Disney? etc. Quote
ArrowBricks Posted Wednesday at 06:33 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:33 PM 47 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said: I would like to know who at Lego generally makes these decisions. How much do the designers have to say? Is there some higher up suit deciding which sets get made. Is it a panel with people from different departments? Do they have to talk about every set with Disney? etc. I don’t think LEGO do, it’s Disney push this, Disney push that. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted Wednesday at 09:15 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:15 PM (edited) 15 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: @Mandalorianknight unless @Swordy wants Love and TIE Avenger, you’re next Another good poster, happy to hear the new TIE Avengers are coming, I can provide some greenscreen renders of a lego one if you want. I feel like Sentry needs to be Dolor just given the alter-ego thing. Unsure who the others would be- most of the Bolts aren't exactly role models going in, so I don't want to be like "X user is just like Yelana!" 14 hours ago, TeddytheSpoon said: +1. I was worried we wouldn't ever get them after their absence from Bad Batch, but we can see now they were a fairly important transition between clones and stormtroopers and quite prominent across the Empire. It could end up being quite a glaring omission among Star Wars minifigs. Imagine if the battle pack this year had been 2 TK troopers, a Nightbrother and a Blackout Mando. 7 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: This was a good explanation, I didn't know that. I still can't defend stickers in UCS sets though, even if they can't do prints I'd rather them try to add detail using Lego. At least they no longer do the STAMP for the plaque The giant plaque stickers were an absolute mess, I'm glad they've fixed that. I am always in favor of brick built details over stickers or prints wherever it can work. 5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: What is it with Lego and fumbling Imperial set opportunities currently?! Not to blame everything on the clone frenzy of previous years, but I think this is a case where you unironically can. For younger kids they're both white-armored troopers, and I could easily see lego deciding that clones sell better in their eyes and therefore to just stick with what's selling better. So the best thing we can hope for is a designer to sneak an Imp pack in somewhere or for the clone bubble to finally pop. 3 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said: I would like to know who at Lego generally makes these decisions. How much do the designers have to say? Is there some higher up suit deciding which sets get made. Is it a panel with people from different departments? Do they have to talk about every set with Disney? etc. From what I remember, designers are generally given a prompt along the lines of a price point, type of vehicle/location/etc, and any notable minifig inclusions. I'm sure for star wars the vehicle is specified more often than not. I believe some designers have lobbied for and gotten specific sets made, though. In general I think it's suits at LEGO. I would imagine disney has them make tie-ins for newer content (they sort of have to, otherwise how would lego have the concept art?), but I doubt they're the ones telling lego to make a shock trooper mech or put a jawa in the advent calendar or whatever. Though I believe they do have to approve every set, and there have been times where the designers have mentioned them vetoing one set in favor of another (again, though, in the case of tie-in sets). 2 hours ago, ArrowBricks said: I don’t think LEGO do, it’s Disney push this, Disney push that. I wouldn't say that's necessarily the case, with the exception of sets based on upcoming content- you would think we'd be getting a lot more clone-centric shows and/or movies if disney was the one ordering all the clone sets. They look over sets to approve them, and they probably also give some general marching orders for stuff like "Hey, Mando Movie coming, please make some Mando sets", but I doubt they're the ones behind the 332nd battle pack or whatever. Edited Wednesday at 09:16 PM by Mandalorianknight Quote
Kaijumeister Posted Wednesday at 10:37 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:37 PM (edited) I echo that the relationship between Lego and Disney / Lucasfilm is likely more collaborative rather than Disney largely calling the shots, otherwise for better or for worse Lego would be covering most pieces of contemporary Star Wars media. Whilst they produce different types of toys, I still find it interesting to compare Lego’s output to Hasbro’s. Hasbro are practically guaranteed to cover most shows, video games, etc. to a significant degree. We’ve seen them cover the Jedi games, the ‘Tales of…’ shows, Acolyte, Shadow Lord, and swathes of Legends content across their various toylines - all things Lego have mostly chosen to ignore. Granted whether this is a move that benefits Hasbro or not is another matter given how much of their product hits heavy discount, but the trend is there. Heck, even Black Series collectors have been expressing a desire to see TK Troopers which are now confirmed to be coming in the near future. I echo @Mandalorianknight’s opinion that the overall direction of this theme seems to be driven by corporate rather than something the designers would be gunning for. As a product, I still favour Lego Star Wars over other toy lines, but in terms of breadth, Lego Star Wars in comparison to Jazwares, Hasbro, Hot Toys etc. has mostly done an lacklustre job of at least trying to cater to fans of different (contemporary!) content since last year. The uptick in 18+ sets and buildable figures (doubtless corporate-driven) makes it worse because unlike Hasbro (for example) whose ‘collector’ lines such as helmets and role play items occupy their own niche without eating into existing toylines, Lego’s foray into this market does. What we’re then left with is a perfect storm of a significantly reduced number of playscale sets, which I will always reiterate are the bread and butter of this theme, coupled with a lack of at least trying to introduce some diversity into said playscale sets. To me, the overall direction of this theme has been extremely tone-deaf as of late. But that’s easy for me as a layman to say without any insight into the sales data that drives these decisions. I can only hope LAN are at least feeding the overall sentiment for the theme back to Lego, at least it seems like Solid Brix is. I do think 2027 seems to so far sound like a much better year from what we know already and I really am excited for it, plus I maintain my hope the remaining Mando sets will be good too. Apologies for the wall of text, but as a last point I don’t think Lego are as good at engagement as Hasbro are. I do appreciate the LAN Fan Media Days coverage we do get, but I personally don’t get a sense of actual passion and interest the way I do when I watch the Hasbro designer interviews. No doubt a large part of this is the corporate script Lego designers have to play by, but I don’t see this sort of reticence whenever we see interviews with Ninjago or Marvel designers Edited Wednesday at 10:46 PM by Kaijumeister Quote
Yperio_Bricks Posted Wednesday at 11:27 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:27 PM 41 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said: I echo @Mandalorianknight’s opinion that the overall direction of this theme seems to be driven by corporate rather than something the designers would be gunning for. As a product, I still favour Lego Star Wars over other toy lines, but in terms of breadth, Lego Star Wars in comparison to Jazwares, Hasbro, Hot Toys etc. has mostly done an lacklustre job of at least trying to cater to fans of different (contemporary!) content since last year. The uptick in 18+ sets and buildable figures (doubtless corporate-driven) makes it worse because unlike Hasbro (for example) whose ‘collector’ lines such as helmets and role play items occupy their own niche without eating into existing toylines, Lego’s foray into this market does. What we’re then left with is a perfect storm of a significantly reduced number of playscale sets, which I will always reiterate are the bread and butter of this theme, coupled with a lack of at least trying to introduce some diversity into said playscale sets. I couldn't agree more I know I am exaggerating, but to me it often feels like there's some excel sheet driven bureaucrat calling the shots. That's why we see so many 18+ sets - buildable statues and the like. Yes, they surely must sell well, otherwise Lego would not make all these adult collectors items, but like @Kaijumeister points out, it eats into the toyline of playsets and as a fan of playsets it hurts to see all of that Quote
Kaijumeister Posted Thursday at 12:33 AM Posted Thursday at 12:33 AM 58 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said: I know I am exaggerating, but to me it often feels like there's some excel sheet driven bureaucrat calling the shots. That’s exactly how I imagine it too If the 18+ June set is indeed a helmet, that’ll just reinforce my opinion that they really can’t control themselves with moderating the 18+ output if busts are also introduced this year. The April’s Day rumour of the other June set being a buildable Mando and AT-RT is starting to seem more and more real. Unfortunately, this is the ‘brave new world’ of the theme we have to get used to. Not only do we get less playsets, but the waiting period in between receiving substantial waves of playsets that other themes get to take for granted continues to broaden for Star Wars. We wait longer and get less. I know Lego Star Wars produces a fraction of the product that Hasbro and Jazwares do, but you will never catch either of those two companies dedicating over 90% of their core product to a single Star Wars property, even during a movie year like this. Anyway, sorry for complaining again guys I just have a lot of thoughts on the topic. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted Thursday at 06:49 PM Posted Thursday at 06:49 PM 363 Days of completing the mission. 75458 is a Remnant AT RT driver helmet. (2nd accidental Rogue One 10th anniversary set I guess) 75461 is the upscaled Vader fig. So more Buildables that take up able-bodies set slots. AT AT! I need you AT AT!! Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted Thursday at 06:53 PM Posted Thursday at 06:53 PM Huh, so the leakers were confused about which June set was which $100 for the maxifig Vader makes a lot more sense! And the AT-RT driver helmet is a good choice I’d say. Quote
TheScaryDoor Posted Thursday at 08:21 PM Posted Thursday at 08:21 PM (edited) 20 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: 75458 is a Remnant AT RT driver helmet. (2nd accidental Rogue One 10th anniversary set I guess) But this helmet is from the new Mando movie and only similar to the tank driver from Rogue One or is it the same? Edit: You mean the shoretrooper from RO. I didn't checked this one first because of the different colour. Edited 15 hours ago by TheScaryDoor Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 22 hours ago, TheScaryDoor said: But this helmet is from the new Mando movie and only similar to the tank driver from Rogue One or is it the same? Edit: You mean the shoretrooper from RO. I didn't checked this one first because of the different colour. It’s the same design as the Shoretrooper helmet. But colour-wise, it’s literally the AT ACT driver helmet. Just without the small red imperial cog on the helmet’s side. Chances of the AT AT with its larger piece count and definite omission of 2020’s speeder and Eweb builds including a Int-4? Spoiler According to people who saw the 15 minutes shown at cinema con, Lieutenant Beard escapes via an Int-4 that deploys from his AT AT’s main hold. Hence why one shot in the trailer shows the AT AT’s compartment is open. Either way. That, a Hutt Starfighter and a Remnant BP based off the speeder chase seem to be glaring omissions from the movie’s line-up and we haven’t even seen the actual movie yet so there’s likely more that was skipped. Day #364 of the TIE Avenger crusade. Edited 11 hours ago by CloneCommando99 Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 9 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said: Day #364 of the TIE Avenger crusade. Tomorrow’s a special day! Hope you’ve cooked up something nice to celebrate the occasion! Quote
TheScaryDoor Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: It’s the same design as the Shoretrooper helmet. But colour-wise, it’s literally the AT ACT driver helmet. Just without the small red imperial cog on the helmet’s side. I don't think that this will happen but would be nice to get a Shoretrooper helmet from Lego. The design ist already done. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: It’s the same design as the Shoretrooper helmet. But colour-wise, it’s literally the AT ACT driver helmet. Just without the small red imperial cog on the helmet’s side. Chances of the AT AT with its larger piece count and definite omission of 2020’s speeder and Eweb builds including a Int-4? Hide contents According to people who saw the 15 minutes shown at cinema con, Lieutenant Beard escapes via an Int-4 that deploys from his AT AT’s main hold. Hence why one shot in the trailer shows the AT AT’s compartment is open. Either way. That, a Hutt Starfighter and a Remnant BP based off the speeder chase seem to be glaring omissions from the movie’s line-up and we haven’t even seen the actual movie yet so there’s likely more that was skipped. Day #364 of the TIE Avenger crusade. Got a few small things for you tomorrow. Spoiler Amazing. I love the INT-4 and am so glad it's canon now. Whether or not it's in the set depends on whether or not lego got the concept art in time. 37 minutes ago, TheScaryDoor said: I don't think that this will happen but would be nice to get a Shoretrooper helmet from Lego. The design ist already done. It's been talked about before but unfortunately as you say, recolors aren't something we often get from lego. Quote
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