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Flat bed truck and low loader is not the same.. Would be cool with a low loader though! With all the wheels, it may actually be a possibility, something along the lines of Ham's,but with a 2-or 3-axle tractor (depending on whether it has dual wheels or not

Thanks! Not going to be able to make any progress for more than a week, but will get back with more pics and info when i do! I haven't used one before, no. But it was really interesting to make one, and get all the levers and the timing of things right! Concidering using some longer tubes in some places, to get a slight delay before the pressure builds up. Also looking into fitting another pump, as it is a bit slow now Thanks, I'm glad you like it! Nostalgia points is what I'm going for! Too bad a lot of this community is probably not familiar with the original The original is definitely not a looker, but the interesting thing was no doubt the pneumatic loop, as far as I know a unique feature in this model, never seen before or after

UPDATED 13/2 2015: So my entry is finished, and I decided to redo the first post in the topic to make it easier to find info regarding the finished project. A little backstory regarding this MOC: Firstly, it has been designed specifically for this contest, over the last month-ish. I initially was going to make a more modern truck with the same pneumatic loop function, but then I thought it would be fun to make it more of a tribute to the brilliant B-model of the 8868, which I think many people have not had the pleasure to enjoy. When that had been decided, I had to figure out how to adapt the concept into studless form, while still keeping the scale and functions (and the rather ugly form factor) of the original model, as well as what other features to add to it. So, I ended up with this: It looks a bit messy, I know, nut hopefully the rest of the pictures along with the video will leave you with a good impression The features are as follows: Motorized (RC) functions: Rear wheel drive from a vertically mounted PF L-motor Steering with correct angles on both front axles from a PF Servo motor Dumpable bed from a PF M-motor Pneumatic loop for the loading action from dual small pumps driven by a PF M-motor Independent double wishbone suspension on both front axles Rear live axle suspension with leaf springs (flex axles) Dump bed flap opens via chains when bed is dumped Openable doors Adjustable seats A close up of the cab and left arm. As you can see, I have added doors The exposed tan 3L pins are unfortunately a necessity, as they function as a mechanical stop when the arms are lifted. ...that open! And behold: There is even a steering wheel and lots of instruments! The business end of things. The claw is based on the same principle as the original, but use of modern parts and some redesigning has left it stronger and more reliable. Uppermost position of the arms. It is actually dependent on the added weight of the load (for example a wheel) for the pneumatics to function in the right order. If there is nothing there, the arms will start to lower before the claw is fully opened. Another view Dumping bed in full tilt position. The chains on either side work to open the flap (?) at the back Here is a view of the valve used to toggle the cylinder that toggles the valve for the action. It is connected to the arms, so when the arms move up, the valve moves up, and then release air into the toggling cylinder, that then "reverses" the cycle, opening the claw and lowering the arms. As they move back down, this valve is then moved down, the toggling cylinder switches the action valve, the claw closes, the arms rise, and cycle repeats. Absolutely brilliant system! Here is a view down through the roof, where you can see the previously mentioned "toggle cylinder" and the "action valve". Also visible is the upside-down servo motor used for steering. Here is a view of the rear when the bed is raised. The M-motor in the middle is for the dump bed LA. The upside-down mounted M-motor to the left in the picture drives the dual pumps in the right of the picture. Lastly, here is a video showing off the functions in real life: Hope you like my model and hope to cash in on some of those nostalgia point Erik Leppen talked about

If the diameter of the new turntable is 9 studs (22-23 teeth, depending on how you measure it), as you predicted, the number of teeth will indeed be around 70-72.

This looks interesting! Completely new type of crane to me at least! Sorry to go way off topic here, but that avatar of yours looks strangely familiar.. is that a tank seen through a thermal viewer?

Though I'm not certain about the exact definition of "moaning," maybe nagging is a better word? EDIT: Also; Fire Plane? Isn't this the MB Arocs topic? END EDIT. (and those quotes are just from the last couple of hours) This is obviously your opinion! That doesn't make it everyone else's opinion! Given that it's not even released for another 7-8-9 months, how can you be so sure, and how is it obvious? I wholly agree that this will probably be one awesome set, but it's by no means perfect, and people are allowed to voice their opinions and come with constructive criticism regarding certain parts of the construction without you shooting them down and defining them as moaners. I'm pretty sure we all think this set is exciting and looks great

For christ's sake, you're the moaner here, people are allowed to have different opinions, are they not? We are all familiar with your view on this set, but that doesn't mean everyone has to agree!

Interesting article And yeah, I might be one of the users here most opposed to multiple topics concerning the same thing, but I rarely venture outside the Technic forum, so I would've missed it if not for this post..

Wow, I'm blown away, this is so far beyond what I had ever dared to hope for! I was absolutely sure we wouldn't have suspension, so so happy to be proven wrong! I think this is the first flag ship set that I'd concider a must have for me since coming back to Technic. Of course, the cabin could probably be built to look better using regular bricks, but they managed to make pretty damn decent while still maintaining the TECHNIC look of it! I actually have more of a gripe with the front fenders (looks a bit messy with the blue and red and LBG pins and axles showing through) and the area between the 2nd and 3rd axle. I can see why they did it of course, but it doesn't look super good. But NEW PNEUMATICS! :thumbup: I have recently been making a similar crane for my own white truck, and a longer cylinder is more or less a must to get that extra reach to properly fold/unfold it. Also; the long 1x1 cylinder is just brilliant! Will probably buy a LOT of the new pneumatic parts in addition to the set itself Speaking of the crane on the truck; Do we know if it folds up completely? Given the (large) clamshell bucket, it might have to just "rest" on the bed when not in use...

Yeah, they definitely had an ugly-motorization-designer, he must now have been bumped up to designing large cranes... On a less sarcastic note, I absolutely love the crane! It's huge, but not in a 42039 kind of way, where most of it is just empty space.. Well, technically, I suppose the boom is pretty full of empty space (is that even a legal sentence?), and I would have liked too see a more truss-like design of it, but the whole package still looks pretty damn impressive! Got to love that blue colour scheme!

For some reason I actually stumbled upon that video a coupke of weeks ago! Maybe one could recreate it using this new crane, the other Technic crawler crane and a couple of City sets

This turned out great! Good job man!

Did it say anywhere in text that tipper can be delivered with single rear tyres? Link? I found that image on the Grounder page only to illustrate the "reinforced 2nd rear axle stabilizers". For the Loader model, it clearly states "10 t hypoid rear axle for single tyres with 385/65 R22.5 wide-base tyres (concrete mixer only)"

I believe that is only an option for the cement mixer Arocs.. wrote about this about ten pages ago

Wow, that has to be a new low! EDIT: For those who think the new instructions are too easy, just throw them in the trash and build from the .pdf instead!

I too am willing to bet it doesn't have suspension.. Would love to be proven wrong though! Haven't seen the pic yet, but from experience - both in regards to previous sets released by TLG, and building MOCs of my own - I highly doubt it'll be featured

That pretty much sums it up for me as well! Hahaha, brilliant! Mad respect to you!

Don't know Don't know Don't know Maybe? :-) Would indeed be cool if there is some sort of redesign, though I don't quite see what they could improve/redo to justify a "2.0"

One would still need to attach IR receivers somewhere to demonstrate the functions in the mandatory video in the entry topic though, right? So I take it as for the still pictures, no IR receivers are OK (as long as it's certain there's room for an sBrick inside somewhere, but to demonstrate, you need the IR receivers, even if they're just attached at some random place on the outside of the model?

I wouldn't say it necessarily is a better solution, but it does offer some advantages over yours, mainly the cut 2L axle between the cylinders makes it impossible to move in the x- and y-direction. Looking forward to seeing it! I made a solution myself, where they (new, round-bottomed cylinders) were connected end-to-end (no gap between them), using 2L liftarms between the pinholes, as well as over the hoses on the lower inlets.. Maybe not exactly legal in some peoples' eyes that either, but it did offer a surprisingly strong connection I just tried, and if fits pefectly! Exact same thickness, but not as secure, as there is some play between that part and the 2x2 round brick that might be true, but I wanted it to be the exact length as the cylinder brackets I should maybe show some of the advantages and possible mounting applicatons offered by this solution as well, Here I used it with the 3x5 quarter ellipse thin liftarms in order to guide the hoses, as well as to make sure it doesn't turn when moving inside the crane arm (which has a 3-wide space inside) Here I used it in an outrigger setup. Of course, you wouldn't need to connect the two here, you could just have two cylinders by themselves, but it makes the whole setup stronger.

While some of us are lucky and have a lot of these, and some are willing to dish out the money these command on bricklink, I myself came up with a solution that works perfectly (for me at least) You need: 1 x Axle 2L notched 2 x Axle 3L 2 x Liftarm 1 x 3 thin 2 x Plate, round 2 x 2 w/axle hole 2 x Pneumatic cylinder with two inlets (flat bottomed) 1 x Sword of Xact Zero, or similar cutting instrument. Be warned, there will be cutting of plastic. The final setup, as seen in the above picture, is - I imagine - at least as strong as it's expensive counterpart, while actually taking up less space, and it doesn't look half bad. What you need to cut is ONE of the round plates and the 2L axle as in the above picture. Cut the axle at both notches. Cut the one round plate on the bottom. get rid of the "flanges" along the sides, as well as what's left sticking out in the middle. You shoul be left with a flat bottomed, very thin round disc with four studs on top. The rest is pretty self-explanatory, but here is another picture Disclaimer: If you just want to say "omfg you shouldn't cut parts blah blah blah" then don't bother. This is meant as a simple solution to a well known problem, without having to pay a small fortune. You could probably buy at least five of these (cylinders included) for the price of one set of brackets. The problem is there is simply no way to legally join two pneumatic cylinders compactly and securely in the same manner as the brackets do, so I found this to be a good alternative,

Love it! Well, except for the motors sticking out (probably unavoidable) and the yellow, but that might just be me

Very true, didn't think that far ahead But do you know how they do their metal work? I know you can order custom jewelry and stuff, but I imagine they are cast in one way or another.. Do you know if they do machining?

Maybe one machined out of metal? How much do you think it would cost to have a standard 3L U-joint made that way? Does Shapeways do machining/milling of metal? Made of for example stainless steel, it would be strong enough to withstand a LOT of punishment Or does anyone on this forum have access to a high end mill or machining center?

I hope it's not...