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First of all, I rarely buy LEGO at all at the moment (student budget, space etc). Normally though, I'd build it, play/display it for a bit, and then it'd get dismantled and thrown in my collection when I needed some parts from it. I don't typically bother with b-models, as they're not what I bought the set for. When building medium to large sets, I'll typically dump the parts out onto a tray so I can move the whole lot in one go should I need to. I might keep the parts roughly in piles of each bag, but not strictly. A lot of sets I buy second-hand or rebuild from my collection, so there's no sorting there at all. I keep all my instruction booklets with my bricks for easy reference, whilst the set's boxes have gone un-flattened but stacked (like Russian dolls, smaller ones inside larger ones) in the loft. An interesting discussion overall. It seems a fair number of people so far agree with "Build then cannibalize" and "No sorting". I wonder if this will change as more people answer.

Where do I fit? I'm certainly Team Lurk on this sub-forum, and Team Wait-And-See in regards to upcoming set speculation. In terms of actual building, I reckon I'd be Team Function, Team Yellow-Construction-Equipment and Team Manual (due to being a long-term member of Team Small-Collection ). I don't want to take sides on any of the other "battles"!

Impressive work. I love the cab side detailing, and the outdoor photography really looks beautiful. I'd love to see her running around on LEGO track, she looks amazing.

I was going to post yesterday, but decided against. Having read @Toastie's well-written reply above, I think I will. The general issue of stealing other's video work for "profit" (watches, ad revenue etc)(on whatever platform) is an ongoing one on the internet, and it's a difficult one to deal with. There will, unfortunately, always be people who see the opportunity. It's being continuously addressed in the Technic sub-forum; The consensus there seems to be to address each new "freebooter" as they arise. This tactic is more for preventing "download-and-upload someone else's video" though, something YouTube will deal with (albeit rather slowly I believe). Stealing LDD files and instructions is a separate matter to outright stealing videos. Certain other companies have been known to release sets of impressive MOCs, without permission. Again, there's already a thread on it. It's a shame the most commonly trod route is to remove shared files and instructions, as many people will find inspiration and learn techniques from other's creations. Unfortunately, there are few other options. For instructions, it should be possible to keep them on paper or digitally "watermark" them, but no such options exist for LDD files to my knowledge. (Incidentally, the "instructions" produced by LDD are far more comical than helpful. I've tried following them for my own small MOCs, ones I know how to build anyway, to compare. Often, it shows physically impossible connections, especially in technic models. Don't use them.) Personally, I have a couple of files available on Bricksafe. However, they're only of a preliminary replica of 60198 (and hence soon to go out of date), and the folders are "link only" so less likely to be found. And I'm glad I did share it; a couple of people have been able to bring my work to real bricks, something I can't and probably won't do. I don't particularly mind if they get "stolen", as the models weren't my idea in the first place really. If I do release a proper MOC in the summer, complete with LDD file and instructions (unlikely, but still), I think I'd still want to share them for free. You just have to keep an eye out, and hope the community here does the same. The actions of a few shouldn't be able to stop us sharing and learning techniques and skills in the hobby we enjoy. For this and other specific cases, I suggest raising a new topic somewhere like Community or General; it may help given not all of the models in question are train-related. Alternatively, we could ask a mod to move this topic. What does everyone else feel about this? A second, more general approach to opinions and resolutions to the issue at large may be useful too, as @zux has suggested above. I hope that the @JEB314 (James), the member in question and all other creators can resolve this issue as quickly and peacefully as possible, and that everyone will remain part of this excellent community. Overall, it's a long-standing, ongoing issue with no obvious solution. Only now has it properly hit here.

This set looks rather fine in red, good thinking! I like the other small mods around the loco, apart from the hand rails; they're far too close for a hypothetical figure to comfortably use them. Have you considered fitting PF components to it, and giving it a run? It'd look pretty good I reckon. I'm also now wondering how it would appear with the proper front windows and a smoother nose... And hey, it's another appearance of my undercarriage from my preliminary replica (here)! I'm always happy to see that used; it's nice to know it works considering it was a random 5-minute filler build on LDD. Good work overall. I'd love to see it on track with some more rolling stock.

Good work! I believe the originals were narrow-gauge, but building one of these for 4-wide track is tricky (I've tried, it didn't get very far), so I'm not going to complain! I think I quite like the simplified design of the loco. However, the boiler should be off-centered to counter the weight of the cylinder block, as @CrispyBassist said and as Stephen's original is. I think, given the 4-stud wide boiler on a 6-stud wide chassis just moving it over 1 stud would be fine, but I reckon Crispy's jumper plate suggestion would be fine too if you don't want to move it all the way over. A neat job overall, the hopper wagons look good together and the caboose tails it off nicely. Well done.

This is a mystery; if you've got the train built exactly as in the LDD file, it should run easily. What do you mean when you say it doesn't "run properly"? Is the motor spinning and slipping, or stalling? Is the train keeping to the track, or derailing? If the motor is spinning, the only suggestion I can make is to lighten the engine and put more weight above the 9V train motor in the tender. The Boat Weight brick 73090 would probably be good if you have any; alternatively, anything metal (nuts, bolts, screws etc) above the motor should help. Otherwise, I'm not really sure. A video or even just some pictures of exactly what the problem is might help. The white dust on LEGO axles is common. If you want to see some really bad build-ups, have a look at some GBC (Great Ball Contraptions); mechanical LEGO models running for 2 days or more continuously can produce interesting results.

Spectacular. I was wondering what British loco you were going to choose; I didn't expect a 23! It's a pretty good choice for a LEGO model, especially as it has 2-axle bogies, matching TLG's train motor. You've perfected those compound curves and side details, and done well to find the parts for it in Dark Blue. I love your usual standard of clean stickers and working headlights too. Spoiler warning - Obsessive British history and nitpicking follows! Overall I love your representation of the Baby Deltic. It's a stunning model, with perfect details, stickers and nearly-perfect () headlights. Good work, I wonder where we're travelling next!

An interesting question. My answer depends on what you consider as "complex". Most of my sets are CITY from 2007 onward. As I didn't get many sets after 2010 I kept rebuilding those I had; therefore, I can pretty much build any of them (cement mixer, rubbish truck, service station, fire station etc) from memory, although I might need a reference picture for some of the exact brick arrangements. However, many of these sets aren't particularly "complex"; they hardly used any SNOT or other unusual building techniques, as it was a decade ago, so they're not too much of a challenge. Whilst I'm good at building small custom technic models, I haven't rebuilt the sets I have from this theme enough times to be able to recall them from memory. Overall then, I'd say the largest set I can rebuild from memory is the 7945 Fire Station, but the "most complex" is probably 7990, 7991 or 7993, depending on how you define complex. On the other hand, seeing as I haven't rebuilt many old sets for a while, I'm not really sure.

It might even be 32739 from last year ! It's good to get it in DBG though; it's currently only available in yellow, orangeish yellow, white and dark blue. As for the on-off switch; either they've made it taller than the rest of the battery box, making it a very unusual shape, or they've made a new part roughly equal to a 2x2 brick but with a modification for the button in it. I don't think that shape could easily be brick-built. Perhaps it's a little longer, and includes the blue on-off light as well. But, of course, this is all speculation.

I'd be tempted to say GWR 5972 was painted dark red but I'm not entirely sure. The carriages were MK1s in BR Maroon, so they were definitely dark red; I suspect the loco was painted to match them, but I'm not certain. Wikipedia states the loco was painted "crimson" for it's role in the films, but that's doesn't really clear much up. I'd suggest looking for yourself; try Google-image searching "Olton Hall", and you'll see it's not exactly clear-cut. In my opinion, Bright red is as good as Dark red, and TLG will have used it as it's cheaper and stands out more.

Don't worry about the credit, it's only a small collection of parts that I decided to share on the internet. Once we've got more pictures, you can replace that section with whatever's actually there anyway. Either way, it will be interesting to see what you make of the other items in this set, especially given the limited information we currently have. Good luck!

@rahziel I was wondering how long it would be before my old topic was linked to! I would definitely have preferred the preliminary loco we saw, it had far more interesting shapes on it. However, this design really isn't as bad as I feared. The set also makes up for the loco by the crane; I love that it features a worm-drive gearbox to raise and lower the boom as well as the obvious winch. I also note that the whole set is clearly designed to play with the rest of recent CITY sets. The bank truck and gold bricks will work with the police and mining themes, the snowmobile in a container can play with the upcoming Arctic line, the log cars can be loaded from the 60181 Forest tractor and the crane and containers are compatible with the 60169 Cargo terminal; the containers are the same size and the cranes have the same colour scheme. I reckon it's an excellent play set, and not too awful as a train set either.

Nicely done. I think you've got the cab nose shaping excellently from what we've seen. I noticed you haven't included any PF or the new pantographs, but that's fair seeing as we don't know what the parts look like yet, and they're certainly not in LDD. I also noticed you've used the undercarriage detail I put on my replica of the preliminary model (here ), which was entirely guesswork and probably too complex for the actual set! Don't worry, I'm teasing; you've done a good job replicating the loco overall. Are you going to carry on and try the crane and other items in this set? I'd love to see them posted in this thread.

Good work on modelling "Olton Hall"! All I'd need to do is change the colour to black or dark green, and I'd have an accurate representation of the GWR Hall class. The coaches look pretty good too; an economic reproduction of the ubiquitous BR MK1s, even if I'd prefer the last coach to still have it's gangway connection. And certainly better proportioned than the new set. Well done.

Good work, I reckon it has to be that part. Interesting (and good) to see that they didn't make a new part to go with it. Pretty much the same here. I'm more interested in how big the battery box/receiver/etc is, and hence if they'll make PF in small locos easier. I'm also wondering what else they'll bring into the PF2.0 line; my first guess would be lights. On this set, the studs behind the headlights appear to be hollow, implying LEDs could be installed behind (similar to 60051).

Seeing this set is a nice surprise, as I'd forgotten about it. Overall, I reckon it's pretty good, and certainly a massive improvement over the previous iteration. However, as a British train nut, I'm going to be making comparisons to the prototype loco, GWR 5972 Olton Hall (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stuart166axe/14598905311/in/photostream/). The colours are excellent; looking at a shiny red steam locomotive is pleasing (although unrealistic for the GWR Hall class, but never mind). It's good that it's got the right number and size of wheels, especially since TLG have the parts in their inventory now. On the other hand, I'm slightly worried about the front carrying-wheels bogie; it looks as it if only has one pivot point, meaning it will be impossible for the loco to negotiate track curves. I hope I'm wrong. The connecting rods are pretty over-simplified, but will still provide nice motion and should be fairly easy to upgrade to a more realistic setup. Unfortunately, the whole model looks a little too short and tall, as if it's been ran up against a wall. Ah well, it's not awful. The tender and carriage are both rather small and have too few axles. However, 3-axle tenders are difficult to do, and bogies on a coach intended not to run on track would be annoying. I also theorise that the technic-beam couplers are also to keep the train together when it's being pushed along a floor rather than rails; magnets may tend to come apart too often when there are higher resistances from carpets or other obstacles. Overall, it's pretty much exactly what I had hoped and expected TLG to make. A good-looking set, with some room for AFOLs to make improvements. The no-track thing might annoy some, but I suspect it makes the set cheaper and more accessible, and easier to get several as parts packs without ending up with too much curved track. We won't know if it's designed as PF compatible until we know the details about PF 2.0 I guess, as the battery box and motors may be different shapes to the current ones. P.S. I've just noticed that the locomotive has no driver, fireman or guard!

Good work! I like the cab modifications, the new shape and colour work quite well. I reckon it will matche up nicely to the 60052 loco, in the same way that the original matched the set's loco. The extra small details and tiled base are nice too. The only thing I think you could improve are the outriggers; either make them a little more substantial and purposeful, or take them off entirely (wagon-mounted rail cranes I've seen never have them). I fear I may have to build a similar model now... @1963maniac I believe they're these parts: Cylinder 1 x 5 1/2 with Handle; 87617 (designed to work with Bar 5L with handle; 87618) Bar 6L with stop ring; 63965 (or any other long bar piece) Technic, Axle connector with Axle hole; 32039 (Oops, Dorino posted just before I submitted mine!)

I think I'll join in again, now that I've seen the official photos. The cargo train is really quite nice. The loco would have been better if it was the earlier version we saw, but this design really isn't as bad as I feared. It's also made up for by the rather good crane; I love it, considering it features a worm-drive gearbox to raise and lower the boom. I also love how the whole set is designed to play with the rest of recent CITY sets; the bank truck and gold with the police line, the snowmobile in a container with the upcoming Arctic line, the log cars with the 60181 Forest tractor and the crane/containers with the 60169 Cargo terminal. Regarding the latter, the containers are the same size (phew!) and the cranes have the same colour scheme. It's therefore excellent as a play set. The passenger train isn't awful either. The colours are nice and the nose piece doesn't look terrible to me, but I'm not such a fan of the coaches being nearly identical to 60051. Although that might make the sets look quite good next to each other, so I don't know. (I'm leaving discussion of the remote to the topic over in the Techinc forum.) Overall, not a bad pair after all. I hope they'll sell well.

I don't think I've commented before now, but I have been watching this thread with interest. Your project is impressive, not only because of the shear size, but because you are attempting to recreate every single function of the real machine. It's clearly taking a lot of work, but you're showing excellent commitment to the thing. It'll look really impressive when it's running complete with lights and all. I hope you achieve your goals with this masterpiece. Personally, I can't wait to see it complete!

That's a good shed, I love the internal roof detailing and the skull on the front! A couple of ideas for additions you could make; firstly, how about some other loco servicing facilities to go next to the shed, such as a water tower or coal loading stage? I don't know if they would have featured in real life, but they seem logical additions to this scene. Secondly, some of the wooden boards in the walls should be weathered, damaged, missing or replaced. Perhaps you could vary the colours slightly, attach some weeds or foliage around the base, and add raised and dented sections to represent hap-hazard repair jobs over. I think that would make the model even more visually interesting. Apart from that, that's quite a collection you've designed there. The track layout and building placement works really well, and the colour schemes of the rolling stock is good. Excellent work overall as usual, I can't wait to see it all together in real bricks. (P.S. Build the Shay! I think it looks more interesting, and design-wise it fits better with the other 3 locos you've built.)

Simple, effective and much faster than the old version. That's why we rebuild things! Good job, I'm looking forward to seeing all these components come together.

@rodiziorobs @JGW3000 Yep, same invisible-brick-icon issue on a new-ish Android phone. It was a little disconcerting, especially since I haven't been on these boards for a week. I guess they were just forgotten when the new theme was being designed and installed.

Unfortunately not, the twin curses of the Student Budget and Student Accommodation mean that I have neither enough money nor space for any bricks at all, really. This is also responsible for my extensive folder of LDD files...

This sub-forum did used to have it's own banner and scheme, but it doesn't seem to exist anymore. It'd be cool to have it back, or design a new one (perhaps with a range of sets on it, from 12v as well as 9v and PF). But I don't really mind. If you don't like the current theme being displayed you can change it; there's a drop-down menu under the advertisement at the bottom of the page.