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Of the 3 cars that got to 10k, the Corvette is the one I would buy. Not the LandCruiser or the Caterham.

Now if that Cruiser was the pickup variant, it would be different...

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Of the 3 cars that got to 10k, the Corvette is the one I would buy. Not the LandCruiser or the Caterham.

Now if that Cruiser was the pickup variant, it would be different...

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Of the 3 cars that got to 10k, the Corvette is the one I would buy. Not the LandCruiser or the Caterham.

Now if that Cruiser was the pickup variant, it would be different...

And if it would come with a Russian ZU-23 AA gun in the back. :classic: Mostly like would have to MOC something like that. :devil:

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Oddest thing this weekend, I was at the Mall of America LEGO Store this weekend, and as I was walking past it, I looked through those little window displays. One had that Petit Prince Ideas model in it, if not that, then something extremely similar, with the plane and all. Is the guy who made it from Minnesota? :look:

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Love it!

There are many cool cars on Lego Ideas review stage (Corvette, Caterham). I would like them all, but they would saturate the market. There are aslo the Creator Expert cars.

I would bet for the 'vette and maybe this one.

I would only buy the Caterham of those, because I think it is a better build. More realistic, more technical details and a wonderful showpiece that non-Lego fans could appreciate (Also, I think I would be allowed to have it on display in the living room).

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Oddest thing this weekend, I was at the Mall of America LEGO Store this weekend, and as I was walking past it, I looked through those little window displays. One had that Petit Prince Ideas model in it, if not that, then something extremely similar, with the plane and all. Is the guy who made it from Minnesota? :look:

I was just down there last weekend to pick up a Hobbit set and I didn't see that, it must be new. Interesting, I know sometimes Lego Stores have featured MOCs from local AFOLs.

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My god they are really having a hard time with that review

It's almost November and still nothing :look:

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My god they are really having a hard time with that review

It's almost November and still nothing :look:

It's becoming a tighter contest. The larger candidate sets look as good as a D2C lineup that's good for two, even four, years, barring Star Wars and the Fairground sub-theme for Creator Expert.

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Just a guess, but maybe the winner could be Adventure Time seeing as there's a rumor of some Dimensions sets with the initials AT.

I personally hope the winner isn't any of those cars, cars are so boring. The physics thing to me is too similar to the Marble Maze set (whenever that's coming out)

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The Adventure Time project is in the batch after the one we're waiting on results for, so it'll be a few more months before we know about that one. I do hope it gets approved, though.

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I personally hope the winner isn't any of those cars, cars are so boring. The physics thing to me is too similar to the Marble Maze set (whenever that's coming out)

BURN THE HERETIC!!! :tongue:

Really, if it's not the cars, it may just be either of the UCS dinos that will make it, or, disappointingly, Golden Girls.

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I personally hope the winner isn't any of those cars, cars are so boring. The physics thing to me is too similar to the Marble Maze set (whenever that's coming out)

Something that I and XaxelsX disagree.

I simply need that 'vette.

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Whoa whoa whoa whoa wait a bloody-useless second. None of the proposals, not even the ISS, got through?

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That's vexing.

  • Other projects sometimes come too close to a number of the products that the LEGO Group already has today or has plans for the near future.

Looks like there will be a blue '69 Corvette OR a UCS ISS as a D2C, or at least those ones are I think will be the ones that will most likely end up becoming sets after 2 years max (TLG has a Chevy license now thanks to Speed Champs, while the ISS will probably come up in an anniversary).

  • Some projects can challenge the rules we have on safe and good building experience for all LEGO builders. We can also have difficulties simply producing some of the larger projects with the production capacity we have for LEGO Ideas.

And there you go, coming from the mouth of Ideas themselves.

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Well, Science Adventures is rather similar to the Research Institute Ideas set and Little Yellow would have needed Nathan Sawayas consent, so I'm not really surprised that those two didn't make it. The rest also heavily depended on license agreements, so no surprise there either.

To be honest, this sort of thing happening was simply a matter of time :wink:

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Ow, what a waste of time.

I don't think anybody would buy that Golden Girls set, how that got 10000 supporters baffles me.

None of the other sets really interest me. Zelda... people gotta stop trying, this is the 3rd/4th project that's been rejected. There should also be a limit to how many pieces a submission can have - really tired of seeing these amazing, giant MOCs with like 10000 pieces getting the supporters knowing they're automatically going to be rejected.

The Science thing, too similar to the Research set. Also, Atalariel or whatever her name is does not need a 3rd winning set. Give others a chance, eh?

I'm still confident Adventure Time will be a winner. Not only because I personally sort of like it, but it's the only set I think kids would like, hence why they're probably adding it to Dimensions. The rest are either too big or retired themes. Oh, and a car.

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Well, Science Adventures is rather similar to the Research Institute Ideas set and Little Yellow would have needed Nathan Sawayas consent, so I'm not really surprised that those two didn't make it. The rest also heavily depended on license agreements, so no surprise there either.

To be honest, this sort of thing happening was simply a matter of time :wink:

Didnt Nathan Himself submit the project?

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Didnt Nathan Himself submit the project?

He did. I suspect that one was one of the ones declined on the "building experience" grounds - generally, LEGO instructions give precise positioning instructions for every brick, rather than leaving a third or so of them spilling randomly out of the model into a pile in front. Alternately, they might not have been able to reach a satisfactory licensing agreement with Sawaya. His 1% net sales royalty as a LEGO Ideas project creator shouldn't be a point of contention, but it's possible that as the famous artist who created the original sculpture on which this set would have been based, he might've wanted a higher licensing fee than LEGO would've been comfortable giving him in addition to the standard Ideas royalty.

Science Adventures might have been declined for either the building experience reason (since it's such a small project with a modest build), or for being too similar to an existing product, which of course would be the original Research Institute. That set and this project are now just two of a fair slew of projects consisting of small vignettes showing scientist minifigures in their natural environments, and they might have decided they don't want to foster the impression they'll just automatically give rubber stamp approval to all such projects. Note that The Big Bang Theory is actually kind of similar itself, differing only in being a licensed fictional property, in showing scientists at home rather than at work, and in having a single, larger diorama rather than three tiny ones. If those three differences are set aside, Science Adventures would have been the third consecutive project from the same creator based around the same core concept for a LEGO set, and the previous two were both approved already, with the second one still being widely available.

The Corvette could conceivably be close to a similar model already in development; alternately, it might conflict with their existing licensing agreement with Chevrolet for the Speed Champions theme.

The Frozen project is pretty clearly too fundamentally similar to an existing set, even if the build details differ.

All in all, it's disappointing, but it does at least settle once and for all a question that's occasionally been raised about whether they'd ever have a review results announcement where nothing passed. It's worth noting this actually wasn't the first whole review batch with no approved projects, though - the review where they approved the Female Minifigure Set that became the Research Institute also had a whole review batch with no approved projects (the Female Minifigure Set had been held over from a previous batch).

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TL;DR: long post ahead. Also, I posted the same on Brickset, so my apologies if you already had to slog through this :tongue:

T. Rex would have been impossible to reproduce faithfully without some significant overhaul to make it more stable, and even then it would have been an issue. Ideas doesn't want another Wall-E debacle.

Corvette would steal customers from the Ferrari model they currently (and possibly for the next two years) produce. I bet we see one eventually. ISS, Titanic, and DC-3, besides being large (but not prohibitively so, unless IDEAS has vastly different production limits) also fall into this category. It seems like TLG only keeps two model-scale vehicles in production at a time, although I may be wrong on that. These are projects that could have been produced at some point (possibly excepting the Titanic), but timing was bad, and if TLG did make them, would probably prefer to not release them under the IDEAS banner. The same could be said for the MMV twin; TLG would rather produce a model like that on their own (when they get around to making historical castles again).

Frozen, Sawaya, Daft Punk, Zelda, and Discworld likely all have IP issues: either from preexisting agreements, inability to reach an agreement (I can see TLG groaning about having to license a project already made out of their own bricks), brand fit, conflicting licenses (not Zelda specifically, but other Nintendo IPs; Nintendo is notoriously picky about its licensees), and Pratchett's estate being handled right now; that might be more of a timing issue than a rights issue, though.

Is there even a market for GG? We were all surprised when BBT landed a set, but that show is still on the air, and references/reverences Lego on occasion. It's no surprise an old sitcom with little overlap to the Lego-buying crowd didn't pass.

I guess Science adventures is the only semi-surprise here, although after all the headaches before with RI--pressure from feminist groups, bad (both negative and/or misguided) press, and production issues--I'm not too surprised they didn't want to have to wade through that again. Also, passing it could have sent a message/set a precedent to make it hard for TLG to refuse similar projects down the road.

I think Ideas has always been a flawed model for creative concept generation, because it doesn't value creativity or marketability so much as popularity (those last two are not the same thing). Then there are all those complaints about how many low quality projects there are that clutter up the site.

My solution would be to have a "like" threshold before you can even submit a project to IDEAS. Make your project, put it on social media, and once it has 100+ (or some other number) likes or retweets, then you can submit it to IDEAS. If you can't rally 100 people on FB or Instagram or something, there is no way you'll be able to do it on IDEAS. That would clear out a lot of the clutter, and prove that IDEAS projects are at least somewhat popular, since that is pretty much all the vote process indicates anyway.

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TL;DR: long post ahead. Also, I posted the same on Brickset, so my apologies if you already had to slog through this :tongue:

T. Rex would have been impossible to reproduce faithfully without some significant overhaul to make it more stable, and even then it would have been an issue. Ideas doesn't want another Wall-E debacle.

Corvette would steal customers from the Ferrari model they currently (and possibly for the next two years) produce. I bet we see one eventually. ISS, Titanic, and DC-3, besides being large (but not prohibitively so, unless IDEAS has vastly different production limits) also fall into this category. It seems like TLG only keeps two model-scale vehicles in production at a time, although I may be wrong on that. These are projects that could have been produced at some point (possibly excepting the Titanic), but timing was bad, and if TLG did make them, would probably prefer to not release them under the IDEAS banner. The same could be said for the MMV twin; TLG would rather produce a model like that on their own (when they get around to making historical castles again).

Frozen, Sawaya, Daft Punk, Zelda, and Discworld likely all have IP issues: either from preexisting agreements, inability to reach an agreement (I can see TLG groaning about having to license a project already made out of their own bricks), brand fit, conflicting licenses (not Zelda specifically, but other Nintendo IPs; Nintendo is notoriously picky about its licensees), and Pratchett's estate being handled right now; that might be more of a timing issue than a rights issue, though.

Is there even a market for GG? We were all surprised when BBT landed a set, but that show is still on the air, and references/reverences Lego on occasion. It's no surprise an old sitcom with little overlap to the Lego-buying crowd didn't pass.

I guess Science adventures is the only semi-surprise here, although after all the headaches before with RI--pressure from feminist groups, bad (both negative and/or misguided) press, and production issues--I'm not too surprised they didn't want to have to wade through that again. Also, passing it could have sent a message/set a precedent to make it hard for TLG to refuse similar projects down the road.

I think Ideas has always been a flawed model for creative concept generation, because it doesn't value creativity or marketability so much as popularity (those last two are not the same thing). Then there are all those complaints about how many low quality projects there are that clutter up the site.

My solution would be to have a "like" threshold before you can even submit a project to IDEAS. Make your project, put it on social media, and once it has 100+ (or some other number) likes or retweets, then you can submit it to IDEAS. If you can't rally 100 people on FB or Instagram or something, there is no way you'll be able to do it on IDEAS. That would clear out a lot of the clutter, and prove that IDEAS projects are at least somewhat popular, since that is pretty much all the vote process indicates anyway.

The like threshold proposal can be easily manipulated.

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