The Real Indiana Jones

Hahahaha, uh oh, "unpopular opinion alert", huh? =D It seems pretty obvious that all CGI movies nowadays have constant reshoots, and various test versions, and alternate cuts that get buried deep in a vault somewhere. They want to avoid the catastrophe of The Phantom Menace, where everyone trusts the director to do a good job, and then when it comes out, everyone mocks it! See you in June! Indy Out

...Hmmm, "debunked"? or just "fervently denied"? Remember, James Mangold has a vested financial interest in denying it all! Obviously he is going to say "hey, guys, everything is fine! This is fine!" [cue dog meme] =D [edit: OK, it might be the film director's golden parachute payout, or the head of LucasFilm's golden parachute payout, or both!]

WOW, so this movie is STILL going through major reshoots, with major changes to the core story arcs. Apparently, they shot four or five possible endings, and the test audiences "disliked" them all... The current rumor is that the CEO of Disney is threatening to just cancel the whole movie completely, the same way that DC just totally cancelled "Batgirl" last year! If they did, they would just take part of it as a tax write-off, and deduct most of the rest from the directors "golden parachute" payout later on, as per the contract, so perhaps they mean business. This is all straight from the rumor mill, so make of it what you will... Personally, I kind of believe it! Plus, that would explain why Lego is keeping everything under such super strict secrecy! I don't think they're going to voluntarily reveal anything until June. But there could be leaks...

Yeah, agreed... Now might be the ONLY chance to get a new Crystal Skull set... and then they will definitely do the iconic Peru Temple from Raiders soon enough, one way or another...!

Hmm, Dial of Destiny comes out on June 30th, so the sets for it should be on shelves on May 1st or June 1st... a month or two after the sets for the previous movies?

Oh, this is normal... In 2008, they did four sets for the original Indy trilogy, plus four sets for the new film, and then an extra set (Peril in Peru) popped up as a surprise. And these two waves were slated to be 90% overlapping in duration anyway, so if they are 100% overlapping, then that is fine. Simply put, if the movie does well, and if the sets sell well, they will do more! I just want to see leaked photos at this point...! =)

Ah, wow, cool, have some photos of the 2023 sets leaked already? Where? Or what keywords to search for? So far, I'm just seeing reposts of the same original sets from 14 years ago... And yes, I think the plan was to do 4 remake sets from all the previous movies, quickly followed up by 4 new sets from the new film... Is that still correct? I've been out of the loop! =)

Hmmm, yeah, they *were* planning on doing a streaming series, with a new person "taking up the mantle", but now maybe that's been put on indefinite hold, waiting to see how the movie does...? So do we get pictures of the sets soon, or will they stay hidden until mid-March? These sets have obviously been produced and stuck in a "top secret warehouse" gathering dust, ironic, huh?! =D

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Ah, yes, now that you say it, I think you are right. If we don't know the exact number of pieces count for 77015, then it must be a January wave... In the meantime, as others were alluding, here's a sampling of some of the current going prices for the original sets. If you CAGR that out over 14 years, it's between about 8% and 18% per annum... Pretty decent, and perhaps it's no surprise that the top three all come from the first movie. So how does that compare versus other themes? The Lost Tomb (The Well of Souls, Tanis) = originally $20, now $200, a full 10x increase...! Race for the Stolen Treasure (truck and jeep) = originally $30, now $200, a 6.6x increase Fight on the Flying Wing = originally $50, now $280, a 5.6x increase Shanghai Chase = originally $30, now $150, a 5x increase Fighter Plane Attack = originally $50, now $218, a 4.3x increase Temple of Doom = originally $90, now $369, a 4x increase Temple of the Crystal Skull = originally $80, now $288, a 3.6x increase Temple Escape (Rolling Boulder, Peru) = originally $60, now $210, a 3.5x increase Jungle Cutter = originally $40, now $130, a 3.25x increase Venice Canal Chase = originally $40, now $120, an exact 3x increase

Oh, I think they did a smart job of targeting the sets that really needed the most improving and updating. Most of the Indy sets still look superb and fairly up to date, even after 14 years, like the Jungle Cutter and the Peruvian Plane especially, and the Desert Chase, and the Shanghai Chase, and the Venice Chase, etc... But the Well of Souls was way too simplistic, and needed to be amped up a lot. The Temple of Doom needs more accuracy around the ceremonial platform. The German plane needs a closed cockpit and smoother wings. And the Crystal Skull Temple (if that's the $150 set) was way too jumbly and childish. That's why I was saying they should redesign it to be more like an Architecture set. Plus, the set should include the Jungle Cutter with the temple as a side vehicle, to make the set more popular, then that could be the last set for Movie IV they ever make! Then in the near future, I can imagine we will first get a $200+ remake of the Fertility Temple in Peru (Indy's iconic intro to the world), and then a $200+ model of the facade of the Grail Temple (the capstone of the original trilogy). It'll be the first time they've done that locale, and they can just do a great Architecture style set of the exterior, which we all know is a real Nabatean Tomb at Petra, if they want to avoid too much overt religious imagery in a Lego set. Two easy hits! If they sell strongly, then obviously Lego will design more and more every year... OK, and so when are these being released...? I'm sure they've been boxed up stacked up and ready to go out the door for months, but just delayed, because Movie V was delayed a full year by the pandemic. It's just a few days until August now, so is this first wave of four due out on the first of September? Five weeks away? That means they should be officially revealed almost any day now.....

OK, no worries... That's all the info I have, and I have a lot of work to get to here! Everything I said will likely be revealed (or debunked) in the first full 2-minute trailer, so it's not really a spoiler! Hmm, also consider this... By the time the movie comes out, you will have already seen the Lego sets for Part V officially revealed, and the Lego sets always provide way more spoilers than anything else out there...! =) Indy Out.

All the actors are under a strict Non-Disclosure Agreement, so I think a lot of the rumors come from people who work as craftsmen and caterers on the movie sets. Some of the Roman-Era movie sets are permanently built around CineCitta, and re-used for various movies, but they have also built a lot of major set pieces for ancient cities, so it's obviously not just a gigantic fake-out. On the other hand, movies nowadays will often purposefully release a lot of deceiving decoy photos to distract away from spoilers, or to thwart the paparazzi. So it is possible that they just want to fake us all out into *thinking* that Antonio is just a simple ship's captain, which would just be a surprisingly small role that would really under-use his star power, when they are really just tricking us, and hiding the fact that he will be a main Ancient Roman antagonist, central to the plot. Also, in the leaked set photos, some of those warriors are distinctly Classical Greek Hoplites, and some of the others look like they are either Homeric Era warriors, or perhaps from Ancient Mesopotamia. That's why people are assuming that there are multiple time-jumps. And that is why I am guessing that Olivier Richters plays a warrior from a slightly different era. I am getting a real Gilgamesh or Enkidu vibe from him. I don't think he is playing a 7-foot-plus-tall Centurion, and I do not think they are having any Vikings in it. I think they are sticking squarely to the Eastern Mediterranean World, so it is not too far-flung or far-fetched. I think he plays a god, or a semi-divine god-king figure like Gilgamesh.

Apparently, at least 1/4 or 1/3 of the film takes place in Ancient Rome, so I'd figure just *one* of those four planned sets for Part V will be in Ancient Rome. Seriously, it would be crazy if Lego *DIDN'T* take the opportunity to do that, especially since they don't need any new molds at all, just some new reusable prints with generic stubbly faces. Hopefully, Mark Killeen as Pontimus might re-use CMF Caesar's hair, but in dark brown or light gray this time. And I am guessing that Antonio Banderas also plays a Roman aristocrat, and I am sure that Olivier Richters will get a minifig. He may be from a different era, if they make several time-jumps... So even if they just make the smallest set be the Rome one, maybe that's perfect, because it will be nice and cheap to buy multiples as a battle pack! Yeah, some of the LucasArts video games from the early 2000s had Indy traveling though inter-dimensional space and time... Essentially, the exact same laws of Physics and History that we saw in Ghostbusters Part One or Thor Part One. Portals and Gods. Classic. Those games were cool, it's just the fourth Indy movie that muddied the concept up a bit, with too much alien stuff. Alien invasions became popular after the movie Independence Day in 1996, and became the standard after The Avengers in 2012. And yes, the CMF Roman, new with accessories, sells for minimum $24... If they just make the cheapest smallest set include a few of them, it will be an easy hit! - Then the CMF Spartan (Series 2) is $19 - Polynesian Island Warrior (Series 11) is $18 - The more realistic-looking Viking (Series 20) is $16 - Aztec Eagle Warrior (Series 7) is also $16 - CMF Pharaoh (Series 2) is $10, but the Pharaoh Amset-Ra, which is more realistic looking, goes for $30, same as the Anubis-Guards. I think for this movie, they didn't want him chasing after any specific McGuffin or any specific historical person, they just wanted it to be a race to stop the villains from changing the outcome of WWII, and not create too many catastrophic time-paradoxes along the way! So, "Hmm, I have a *GOOD* feeling about this!" - Young Han Solo in "Solo", ever the optimist, so famous last words! =)

Yes! There were confirmed leaked photos from the set, showing several actors dressed as Roman soldiers, near a Roman war-ship. And on the IMDB page, it shows one of the actors plays a character named "Pontimus". I think that is Ancient Rome confirmed. So we should get flesh-toned movie-detailed Roman soldiers, plus Pontimus, presumably an aristocrat who is an antagonist or redeemable villain, and probably a little bit of architecture, ideal for expanding into MOCs. Apparently, some of the German villains survived, and by the 60's they completed the secret time-machine project code-named "Die Glocke"... They try to go back 20 years to change the outcome of WWII, and then.....?????