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[kc2dc]

Hello everybody. It's been a while since I have posted. I have made several new structures and modulars, but recently finished building a baseball stadium for my city after getting a OYO set. I'm a huge MLB fan and a Royals fan (originally from KC), so I took the OYO set and built a stadium around it. I could easily replace the field with legos the rest of the stadium (like the rest of my entire lego city) is 100% lego.

So first, I would like your opinion of the stadium. My 15 year old son and built it together. I don't think the photos do it justice, it's huge and ate up a ton of our spare legos to build.

Second, what do you think of using OYO? Are we terrible people? Have I committed a lego afol crime?

Regardless, I think the stadium will look great in our city and it should be a very popular addition. Here are some photos:

[fred67]

I like it! A lot of people don't understand just how many bricks a big MOC takes until they try to make one themselves.

I don't know about OYO but, IMO, if it's something LEGO doesn't want to make, then it's fair game. Over the years I've bought 2 MB, and a set of Superheroes that TLG doesn't make (The Fantastic Four). However, I've bought tons of stuff at specialist companies... Brickwarriors, Brickarms, Brickforge, ME Models, Lifelites, AltBricks, Big Ben Bricks... they just make great stuff that TLG doesn't. At the same time, we've had both batters and outfielders in LEGO (in collectible minifigures). Depending on your budget, I would look into those. I believe Brickforge also has baseball bats (in several colors); Brickarms has both a baseball bat and cricket bat.

[Retroshift]

It's a nice MOC but try staying with the real Lego pieces. Like Fred said, there are already Lego baseball players and fielders and there will probably be more great theme sets in the future.

[Off the wall]

That's simply a great MOC. Reminds me of a AA ballpark. The ball players are just fine.....I'm not a purist. Would be a great set for Lego to issue in certain markets.

[Zanki]

Nice MOC! The figure thing is fine as well. I have Megablock Power Rangers in my city (the old ones (PRNS-PRSPD), not the crappy new ones that don't look like Lego minifigures, I'm still upset about that), I don't see the issue with using non-Lego/fake Lego minifigures if Lego haven't made them available.

[Super Goblin]

The Oyo blends in nicely with the Lego. The only issue I have ever had with Oyo is the plastic quality and the style of the baseball caps. Their football stuff is great.

[Herky]

I agree with everyone else, as a huge sports fan, I am waiting for the Sydney Opera House size stadium to come out, don't care what sport Lego does it with, just want one. In the meantime I live vicariously through all the great folks who make the MOC's like you did. OYO vs Lego doesn't matter, especially if you are a fan of one team specifically then you kind of have to go OYO to get your team in there.

Fun build to see, am sure there are lots of hours in it, great job and thanks for sharing.

[Off the wall]

I agree with everyone else, as a huge sports fan, I am waiting for the Sydney Opera House size stadium to come out, don't care what sport Lego does it with, just want one. In the meantime I live vicariously through all the great folks who make the MOC's like you did. OYO vs Lego doesn't matter, especially if you are a fan of one team specifically then you kind of have to go OYO to get your team in there.

Fun build to see, am sure there are lots of hours in it, great job and thanks for sharing.

Me too. I wouldn't mind a 6000 or 7000 piece European football stadium. Like with most buildings, there would probably be a lot of repetitive steps, but the end result would be worth the repetitiveness and the price.

[AFOLguy1970]

This is a great MOC. Although I have yet to combine a non Lego entity with a MOC or existing set, it certainly would not be out of the question in the future. Even though Lego has made baseball players in the past, like you, I honestly would rather have authentic major league insignia and trademarks rather than the generic Lego one. If it was me, one team would be the St. Louis Cardinals. The other would either be the Rangers or even the Cubs if I decided to try and make a mini-Wrigley Field in the living room. My boys were looking at the Oyo stuff in one of the sports stores in the mall. They were quite captivated by the football players.

If Lego ever did license with MLB or the NFL, then that would be my first preference for a minifig. In the meantime, Oyo looks just fine in your MOC.

[MusicaRibelle]

This is fantastic, and I don't even like baseball :)

I agree with other commenters, the oyo figs actually mesh well with the scene and for once they justify the 'heresy' of mixing non-lego pieces. The result is truly great, I am sure you could exhibit the moc in an actual ball park ticket office or fan shop, they'd be lucky to have it on display for a few weeks.

Congratulations!

[Captain Braunsfeld]

Good MOC!

Did you have any blue chairs left?

[TheLegoPerson9]

I'm not much of a sports person but I wish Lego would bring back the sports theme.

As for the stadium, it is really well done. Good job.

I don't know anything about Oyo and just because you used it does NOT mean this is not a great MOC because it is a great MOC.

[kc2dc]

Thanks everybody! This makes me fell much better. We spent a lot of time on this and really like it, but having I really wanted it to be all lego. Lego needs to come out with something besides cops and firemen. I did order some of the new baseball player minifigs that I may use as the other team or at least as some of the fans etc. Lego City Stackers? I'm glad you guys like the stadium. I will have to take some more photos once I get it placed into the city. I do have a few blue seats left!

Edited January 8, 2015 by kc2dc

[Hinckley]

As this forum is for LEGO builds, I've moved this creation to the Community forum. Thank you.

[kc2dc]

As this forum is for LEGO builds, I've moved this creation to the Community forum. Thank you.

It's a lego MOC around a non lego field, which I will eventually replace with real legos.

Edited January 8, 2015 by kc2dc

[tedbeard]

As this forum is for LEGO builds, I've moved this creation to the Community forum. Thank you.

So, any use of non-LEGO elements in a build gets a model banished or is it some quantity?

Just trying to clarify the threshold in a community that uses lots of elements from both aftermarket accessory producers like Brickarms and Brickforge as well as competing brands like MegaBloks.

Edited January 9, 2015 by tedbeard

[kc2dc]

So, any use of non-LEGO elements in a build gets a model banished or is it some quantity?

Just trying to clarify the threshold in a community that uses lots of elements from both aftermarket accessory producers like Brickarms and Brickforge as well as competing brands like MegaBloks.

Yea, pretty amazing. I have a city that probably has 100,000 lego pieces. So does this stadium (which is 100% lego outside the field and players) ruin my entire city? Silly. I have shown it to many lego enthusiasts and they all like it.

I also have a MOC of a three story modular police headquarters. But it has a set of aftermarket SWAT team cops from brickarms I think. Should I remove those before showing it to this forum? Serious question. I’m was going to make a thread about that MOC, I think people will like it, but do I need to remove the SWAT guys first?

The SWAT and baseball field are the only non lego components in our entire city. My son does have some military sets from OXFORD although they are not part of our city.

[Darkdragon]

I like the look of the stadium. There is no way to really do the field this size in a purist LEGO fashion, so using the other brand printed plates was a good way to do it. I'd personally switch out all figure parts possible to do in LEGO and only keep the ones that don't exist (we do have the gloves as you know with Stackers players, and bats which came with the red baseball players and in other recent sets as well).

When I do use non-LEGO figure parts, I still try to switch out anything I can, like unprinted legs I will switch out for the LEGO version, accessories and weapons as well.

I don't think it "ruins" the moc or your city in general to use some of these non-LEGO parts. As a big fan of the game, I'd love to have something like this if I had a city display.

[Hinckley]

It's a lego MOC around a non lego field, which I will eventually replace with real legos.

Excellent. Please let me know when it's complete and I'm happy to move it back to the Town forum.

So, any use of non-LEGO elements in a build gets a model banished or is it some quantity?

Just trying to clarify the threshold in a community that uses lots of elements from both aftermarket accessory producers like Brickarms and Brickforge as well as competing brands like MegaBloks.

Banished? Did I delete it?

Yea, pretty amazing. I have a city that probably has 100,000 lego pieces. So does this stadium (which is 100% lego outside the field and players) ruin my entire city? Silly. I have shown it to many lego enthusiasts and they all like it.

I also have a MOC of a three story modular police headquarters. But it has a set of aftermarket SWAT team cops from brickarms I think. Should I remove those before showing it to this forum? Serious question. I’m was going to make a thread about that MOC, I think people will like it, but do I need to remove the SWAT guys first?

The SWAT and baseball field are the only non lego components in our entire city. My son does have some military sets from OXFORD although they are not part of our city.

Oyo competes with and copies LEGO. It's an imitation company. This is a site for LEGO fans. Brickarms and Brickforge are after-market third-party sellers whose product enhances the other brand. The custom element makers have worked from their basements to family-oriented, personal entrepreneurships. Oyo and other imitation brands are just corporate imitations of the entire brick system. You won't see Brickarms or Brickforge competing with LEGO. They are LEGO fans who have worked hard to enhance the hobby.

As long as I have been here this has been our policy: Non-LEGO MOCs get moved to the Community forum (of course, never deleted, Tedbeard ). I will check in with the staff to see if this is still our policy. Personally, I think it's pretty easy to build that field out of existing LEGO parts. I think you are doing yourself a disservice to use an existing element (from another company) that takes away what can be a fun building challenge.

[tedbeard]

Banished? Did I delete it?

No, you banished it. As in relegated to another forum.

Banish

verb (used with object)

1. to expel from or relegate to a country or place by authoritative decree; condemn to exile:

He was banished to Devil's Island.

2. to compel to depart; send, drive, or put away:

to banish sorrow.

Very different meaning than "delete".

Oyo competes with and copies LEGO. It's an imitation company. This is a site for LEGO fans. Brickarms and Brickforge are after-market third-party sellers whose product enhances the other brand. The custom element makers have worked from their basements to family-oriented, personal entrepreneurships. Oyo and other imitation brands are just corporate imitations of the entire brick system. You won't see Brickarms or Brickforge competing with LEGO. They are LEGO fans who have worked hard to enhance the hobby.

I think that both objectively and subjectively you are incorrect in your assertions above.

Oyo, from what I can see, is a family start-up created when a child and his father found LEGO did not provide certain things. That is precisely the story of Brickarms. Brickarms no longer sells directly to the consumer but is a manufacturere and distributor. When do they go from being a, "family-oriented, personal entrepreneurship" to being an (evil) corporation?

They do not compete with LEGO in the same way as Mega Bloks etc as they produce items that LEGO does not produce. How is that different than Brickforge? Brickforge competes directly with LEGO with many items common to those two companies.

Oyo is not imitating, 'the entire brick system" but does provide enough parts to construct basic sets for their unique niche. How is this different than ME Models rail system which uses 2x8 plates which are direct facsimilies of existing LEGO parts. Will models featuring ME Models track be vetted to ensure that the plates are replaced with genuine LEGO elements?

I am in no way arguing to allow carte blanche for non-LEGO products but revisiting the guideline seems like something useful every once in a while and in this case, the line may have been drawn too far in one direction.

As the poster pointed out, they used LEGO where possible and used the alternates where required.The decision to move it out of the original forum seems harsh.

[Hinckley]

We are discussing it, like I said.

Oyo produces full sport sets, all licensed by professional and college sports teams. The creation in this thread is basically a LEGO enhancement of an Oyo product.

I can PM you when we've fully discussed it so you no longer have to hover over this topic.

I will add, however, that Oyo also produces elements that replace LEGO's minifigures, which is the last remaining patent LEGO has for their products. Brickarms and Brickforge create accessories. I'm sure they'd like to create different legs and arms (and maybe they do now, it's been a long time since I looked at their products. I don't personally use them) but haven't (or hadn't last time I spoke with them) yet gone into creating replacement parts. Maybe they will when the patent expires, but I know these guys have a tremendous amount of respect for the LEGO group. I think replacing the figures to have professional sports team is, at best, a gray area. LEGO makes plenty of sports figures and while some may be difficult to acquire because they are in the Collectable Minifig line, they can be used instead of Oyo's re-invented figure.

And also, licensing all the college and pro teams is evil.

[kc2dc]

Thanks for the explanation. I suppose that makes sense and I can see why you would want to keep this forum lego only. I thought maybe this could be exception because I got this for a gift and wanted to incorporate it. While there are lots of lego competitors, I don’t really think of OYO as competition to lego, but more of a compliment. Totally different market (adult sports collectors). As a matter of fact, I have a couple hundred dollars of Lego invested in this stadium that I probably would never have done had it not been for the OYO baseball figures and now I’m trying to get all the parts to finish it out with a lego field and lego players.

So when I get that done, I will post it again.

It’s good to know that brickarms etc are fine. I will get some photos of my police station on the forum soon.

[bitbang]

I like it. It reminds me of the small neighborhood baseball stadiums for high school games. I think you did a great job and the only thing I would change is making the out field a bit larger.

[Hinckley]

Thanks for the explanation. I suppose that makes sense and I can see why you would want to keep this forum lego only. I thought maybe this could be exception because I got this for a gift and wanted to incorporate it. While there are lots of lego competitors, I don’t really think of OYO as competition to lego, but more of a compliment. Totally different market (adult sports collectors). As a matter of fact, I have a couple hundred dollars of Lego invested in this stadium that I probably would never have done had it not been for the OYO baseball figures and now I’m trying to get all the parts to finish it out with a lego field and lego players.

So when I get that done, I will post it again.

It’s good to know that brickarms etc are fine. I will get some photos of my police station on the forum soon.

Yes, as well as the MEModels train tracks customs, of course. Thank you for your patience. I really appreciate the way you've handled this discussion. I'm glad to have you as a member here. You have a great attitude. I'll let you know how the discussion goes and fully admit it's more of a gray area than we've dealt with on this subject before. Thanks.

[the enigma that is badger]

Setting the question of the nature of the elements/figs used aside, that is a darn neat little stadium! Reminds me of Ripken Stadium, and it definitely captures the intimate feel of a smaller, feeder team stadium nicely.

Good luck as the display continues to evolve! For what it's worth, I like how you used everything you did, and more importantly, if you're happy with it and had fun building it, that's what's most important!

I will add, however, that Oyo also produces elements that replace LEGO's minifigures, which is the last remaining patent LEGO has for their products. Brickarms and Brickforge create accessories. I'm sure they'd like to create different legs and arms (and maybe they do now, it's been a long time since I looked at their products. I don't personally use them) but haven't (or hadn't last time I spoke with them) yet gone into creating replacement parts. Maybe they will when the patent expires, but I know these guys have a tremendous amount of respect for the LEGO group.

Not to get the thread off topic again, but to answer your query: no, in the years that I've known him, Will (ie BrickArms) has made it clear many, many times both in-person and online he has absolutely no interest or intent in ever producing any alternate minifigs or minifig body components. Like you said, he has tremendous respect for LEGO, and that's why BrickArms focuses on elements LEGO has stated it does not and will not produce, namely detailed minifig weaponry, especially items inspired by recent historical conflicts. I doubt if any change in LEGO's patent on the fig would change that position.