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You just keep getting better and better, since I saw your first moc which was a tow truck and was brilliant. All your following mocs have been raising the bar. Fancy a duel between this and madoca's pickup; OSUHARDING1 is doing head to heads next year, and is looking for other comparisons. But this is one of the best looking 4x4's I have EVER seen! Keep up the great work

Livery and legends have nothing to do with this discussion, the fact is that the McLaren f1 (road car) has a power to weight ratio of around 570hp per ton, whereas a Veyron has 514hp per ton but despite this, the Bugatti beat the McLaren. Top gear clearly stated that the McLaren has a better power to weight ratio, and the race results clearly showed that the Veyron is faster. If you can't figure this out, then that's your God given right to remain stupid.

Yeah, OSUHARDING1 I had several ideas for head to heads, but I'll only tell you the ones which are relevant to you; I don't want you to waste your money on unnecessary bricks ;) You said to me quote 'you've inspired me to build Jurgens koenigsegg for Christmas', a great head to head would be jurgens koenigsegg vs crowkillers vampire gt, and another one would be his sunbeam corvette vs crowkillers phantasm twin turbo. Both builders are extremely talented at building non-motorized mocs. But I like to say that sheepo is the best at building motorized mocs and crowkillers is the best at building non-motorized mocs. But jurgens koenigsegg is my favourite non-motorized moc. And what about a rally car race, I can't think of any rally cars with instructions at the moment but feel free to name some. But yeah I have been dying to see technic head to heads, I thought about doing it a few months ago, but I'm sure OSUHARDING1 will do a better job ;)

Thank you guys for commenting But I'm glad to see that despite this disadvantage, Madoca isn't chickening out, like ferrari did against mclaren and porsche. And yes tires are crucial; the Fox's tires work really well offroad, but Madoca's tatra's tires are really stable indoors. Like I said though, its like the p1 and 918, the p1 is much lighter, makes more downforce and has more power, but the 918 still keeps up with it. On paper the mclaren f1 has a better power to weight ratio than a veyron, but the veyron destroys it in a race. For Madoca's tatra, its 2nd gear looks about as fast as the Fox's top speed, which evens it out a bit. But the fact that the Fox has 4 times as much power and torque, means that it can climb over more tricky objects. Like it could climb out of a miny ditch. But if you can't decide which one to take, I have have a solution. Take both; they are equaly as amazing as each other

Hello All I am pleased to anounce, that in 2015, OSUHARDING1 will be doing a double review of both these Tatra's in question. There could possibly be an offroad duel between both, which I am very excited for; this will be the ultimate duel. Both mocs are amazingly built, I couldn't take one over the other, nor the builders either. Madoca is famous for his attention to detail (he is the pagani of technic), and Zblj is famous for fufilling and utilising functions to the best of their ability (though it doesn't mean that madoca's use of functions are useless, nor does it mean that Zblj builds ugly mocs). Madoca's Tatra has the best attention to detail, and is extremely precise for every of its functions. The Fox may not be too pretty, but it goes like a train though terrain. The Fox has been proven to survive all terrains, it can drive on any terrain including snow, ice, foresty areas, sand and can tow a car. You can literally say that the Fox has been around the world. Zblj also quotes his Fox as the most powerful tatra EVER, but then it would be because it has 1 XL motor per wheel. It has 2 winches capable of pulling itself up, not to mention its 8 wheel steering which can vary from rear steering, front steering, crab steering and opposite motion steering. It can climb up a hill but starts to loose traction due to the combination of torque and high revs, its either one or the other in technic. Madoca's tatra, aaahhh its a joy to look at, and to play with. It is very technical, but more stable than the fox when climbing objects (the fox is a bit skiddy when tackling objects). Madoca's Tatra's stablity also means it can climb higher than the fox on steep hills; it doesn't slip its wheels when climbing. Madoca's mocs are also known for there effective suspension and he always shows each moc, climbing over a few bumps. Not to mention that the Tatra has the offroad pedigree of the SUV MKII and the Offroad pickup truck, which are also made by madoca. Performancewise we know that all of Madoca's offroad based mocs can go offroad, but we don't know what extreme offroad conditions his Tatra can survive. Like I said its difficult to pick between them. This is equal to the battle of the 918 spyder and p1, one is a no-compromise and the other one is. Zblj's Fox is the ultimate expression of what a technic tatra can perform upto, and Madoca's tatra is the expression of what a technic tatra should compromise. The fox is a no compromise all terrain vehicle, stripped of things Zblj thought it didn't need: no fake engine, no rear cover, no based looks, its like the p1. Whereas the tatra is compromised, it was designed to replicate a real tatra, his tatra was built like the 918 spyder. But turns out lighter than the Fox but slightly slower Zblj believes because of the gear ratio. Zblj's Fox is also indestructable and was designed to cope with just about anything, like a saab. This willl be a great duel. Here are some pictures of the 2 Tatra's in question. Madoca's Tatra: Zblj's Fox: Note that both are 8x8 and are powered by multiple XL motors, instructions are available for both mocs, I think both are for free. Let me know what you think about both mocs, both builders are amazing and you must subscribe to their youtube channels for updates of their recent mocs. Also I'll leave a link to the video of the Fox and tatra, and also OSUHARDING1's review of Madoca's Tatra. Zblj's Fox: Madoca's Tatra: OSUHARDING1's review of Madoca's Tatra: Thank you for reading this topic! LeocornoProductions

all are amazing constructions

In my opinion, sheepos porsche is the best technic car ever built. jurgens koenigsegg is my favourite non-motorized supercar but not by a long way, I still admire crowkillers phantasm tt and his murciealago sv. You can't ignore sheepos gt500, its the best technic supercar to play with but if your a guy like me who likes mocs based mainly on functions then your better off with the porsche. crowkillers porsche is good, but if I were to purchase instructions for it, I would want a few more functions because most technic builders on eurobricks like a car based on looks and sometimes the designer (because if the person has built amazing mocs before and had recently made one which isn't of a high standard compared to the old ones, they wouldn't mention it), I do like realistic and good looking mocs but I like mocs like sheepos which look good and have the functionality to go with it, I couldn't ask more of a technic supercar moc. Your f40 is another example of a great looking moc that has a descent amount of functions to go with it. Also someone made a black aventador, and a red carrera gt, I forgot the builders name but they were both great mocs. I forgot to mention that madoca's mocs are a good example of my point.

looks great

do you think you can do it in its racing colours?

I attempted to, but I am re attempting it as we speak, the audi quattro is slightly cuby in real life, but I suggest you make the hood a bit longer, raise the ride height and give ir those long shock absorbers found in the 4x4 crawler and the unimog u400, and put mudflaps on it and that would be a great interpretation of an audi quattro.

I would love to see the finished product

you say that, but most of them have no available instructions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8fgyTB-zHg&list=UUVn1ibKhkgHiaCdR_M9EUpA this is another video I made about modding its supension, you should able to view it in every country, well except for korea because they are banned from using the internet The MKII version is only designed and thought out and purposed for members of the public to build, play and enjoy using one of my mocs, its only being redesinged and re-made because the MKI version wasn't reliable enough for other people to use or build.

I am planning a more improved model with instructions, (if your have the slightest interest in revisiting my moc). And I was working on all the failed criterias that lipko highlighted. If it turns out the way I want, I think you and lipko 'MIGHT' be impressed from how much of an improvement it is.

It isn't my priority, (assumptions don't get you anywhere either). You guys keep telling me there's something wrong with it, yet you don't have the audacity to confess what it is. 'It isn't quite there yet', that statement isn't of any significant importance to me if you can't even define why it isn't there. aol000xw, in this case, you have demonstrated how hypocritical you can really be. You can't even utter a sound about 'lacking' if your to ignorant to even build, watch or even have a glimpse of the MOC in question, yet because you see other people ramming on, that somewhat gives you the impudence to blabber about something you don't even comprehend. Your whole comment is literally a spam; its an uneccesary comment if you haven't bothered to research or even visualise what we are talking about. BTW, hypocritical comments aren't welcome either.

But I keep buzzing on about it because I'm trying to get more people to watch and comment on it, you can't get a model promoted if it hasn't been advertised or no one knows about it. Its the same in the car industry, you can make a brilliant car but you have to advertise it and get it reviewed for people to be interested in buying it. Gumpert made a brilliant race car for the road, and they had to get it reviewed and advertised and shown with its rivals otherwise no one would have bought it.

BRUH

nice work, I would love to see the finished product!

that was thoughtful

should have built the other one in black

Hello All This topic is purposed to get thoughts and feedback, on my first fully motorized moc. Originally built to celebrate 1 year since I bought my first technic set. Here is a link to the video https://www.youtube....h?v=g2Zh_J4vwsQ if you like what you see please subscribe and like the video. I'm currently building an MKII version which will be a vast improvement, and instructions will be available for free, though I might limit the amount of people who can view the instructions. It will feature a motorized 4 speed gearbox, the famous p1 spoiler, mclaren style butterfly doors, a working v8 and huge turning circle. It will also have a re-worked and more sleeker body shape than the first version, thus making it more realistic. Unfortunately, I don't have any photos of the MKII chassis, but I will be uploading some soon. I will be updating this discussion with progress of the MKII version soon. Here are some photos of the MKI (original version)

it wasn't originally designed for the hall of fame, its just that I saw alot of recent mocs on the hall of fame. I built it as a technical exercise to see how much my technic skills have improved, since it was 1 year since I bought my first technic set, and every year I'll do the same, and try to build a car or real life vehicle with high complexity.

lets get this straight, are you building the f40 or brunojj's 458? because this discussion is very confusing

I would reccomend, some of crowkillers mocs, but jurgens mocs are also great value as well

but you can have a car that looks great but doesn't work, the jaguar e-type looks amazing but will barely last for 5 minutes. Whats wrong with the looks anyways?

would this be good enough?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Zh_J4vwsQ