LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[CloneCommando99]

11 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

I don’t think we need a stormtrooper battle pack, there’s plenty of ways to get them, one in the mech, two in the tantive hallway, and one in the upcoming ISD. A phase 1 clone battle pack would be more likely and more desired in my eyes. 

The Primary Purpose of Battlepack is to let kids build their armies. That true objective is what people may have lost sight of since AFOL’s started army building in absurd quantities.

Let me put it this way. Kids don’t have the funds to buy multiples of the ISD, Tantive or Mech. These same kids are going to at least want to have a squad of (4) stormtroopers. Therefore a Battlepack is in their best interests. 

 

5 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Stormtroopers are ubiquitous. Anyone who seriously wants to army build them should have no issue buying them en masse for cheap (sub-$4 per figure) on bricklink. There’s no reason to waste a set slot on a figure that appears numerous times on multiple sets every year. It’s the same reason a battle droid battle pack makes no sense, and thankfully Lego chose to include three supers and only two B1s in this year’s set.  

Counterpoint: clones are included in many normal sets every year, they are easy to get, how come they still need to get battlepacks? 
I can’t believe I have to remind you of this, but the vast majority of kids don’t have access to bricklink, thus Lego needs battlepacks.

We’ve had enough clone battlepacks, granted they aren’t phase 1, but I’m getting tired of all the clones at this point.

A stormtrooper battlepack would allow kids to build up their forces so they can actually have decent security for their make-believe imperial facility or have the numbers for their rebel base assault.

7 hours ago, MaximillianRebo said:

The problem with trying to find patterns in Lego releases is that there are more examples of patterns not being followed - or were just coincidences to begin with - than a clear and consistent link between set releases e.g. the inconsistencies between which films get anniversary releases or which new media get sets at all. Yes there have been a couple of good examples of product synergies such as the Hoth battle pack with the UCS AT-AT or the way the upcoming Mando S3 sets connect together, but these are more exceptions than the rule.

Fair enough.

7 hours ago, PreVizsla said:

I think you have a good point when it comes to 2021, as LEGO wanted people to fill in their UCS AT-AT, but I don't think the 212th AT-TE had anything to do with the 501st battle pack. If it were connected, LEGO would give us a 212th battle pack instead of a Battlefront battle pack. In the 2024 battle pack, there was only a Coruscant guard figure inside because the designer said he wanted to make that figure more available, not because it was connected in any way or someone told him to put it inside.

Yeah. I may have been spitballing with the AT TE and 501st battlepack (except they are the same faction.) I was just putting out a fun theory.

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

That said, I think your theory will prove accurate for 2025, less because they're making packs to "fill" the larger sets for all these, and moreso because we're overdue for our next stormtrooper battle pack.

Yep. Also 2025 would be the 10th Anniversary of Rebels. (An unlikely celebration I know but the last completely Stormtrooper battlepack was a Tie-in for Rebels in 2015) Anyway I severely hope for a Stormtrooper battlepack in 2025 because I’d like to try and get half a platoon (16 troops, two squads of 8 and 4 fireteams of four (British Army style)) of one variant of Stormtrooper before they change the design again.

 

3 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

My personal hope for an Imperial battle pack (if we get one) is: 2x Stormtrooper, 1x Imperial crew (either colour cap, new female head), 1x Imperial Navy Trooper (new female head).

 

I would love to see that. But tbh I would prefer to have 3 stormtroopers and 1 stormtrooper heavy trooper. With the build being an imperial checkpoint. (I want to get an imperial occupation MOC going) 

It would also allow kids to have an imperial base of sorts. Something that I think lots of kids would want.

4 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I just want Commander Bly,Wolffe and updated Gree, 327th Legion Clones and updated P2 and scout  Kashyyyk Clones, then we can move away from them and focus on Imperials

 

Those are probably the only clones left that would actually be reasonable for Lego to make. And I would love those.

Edited May 9 by CloneCommando99

[KevinMD]

I like pie.

Edited May 9 by KevinMD
I really like pie.

[Flawless Cowboy]

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Counterpoint: clones are included in many normal sets every year, they are easy to get, how come they still need to get battlepacks? 
I can’t believe I have to remind you of this, but the vast majority of kids don’t have access to bricklink, thus Lego needs battlepacks.

I used phase 1 clones as an example of a (currently expensive) figure whose inclusion in a battle pack would make it more affordable for kids. 

Most kids don’t buy their own sets with their own money, parents buy sets for them. Furthermore, most sets are purchased online now so this is a moot point. Kids who have actual allowances to spend on toys in-store is an increasingly shrinking, privileged demographic in this economy. So no, I consider bricklink to be perfectly viable (also do you really think a nine year old can’t navigate bricklink?) And since stormtroopers are cheap on bricklink, there is no need for a battlepack. 

10 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

 

Edited May 9 by Flawless Cowboy

[AD_Bricks]

5 hours ago, KevinMD said:

You’re right, it’s the x-wing. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain he was implying that the X-Wing was the first UCS V3, and that the Y-Wing is unlikely to be the second. I personally can't think of any other UCS set with 2 remakes.

[Tariq j]

10 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

On the topic of trends, is there a SINGLE ship that rivals the Sith Infiltrator in the number of releases without a UCS set? It has received five renditions now. I’m struggling to think of a ship that has had four releases without a UCS honor. Luke’s landspeeder broke its curse after a whopping six tries in playscale form. 

Could the Naboo Starfighter rival it? I think there have been 5 so far with one being classed as a "special edition" version but I can't remember if it counted as a UCS set or not.

[KevinMD]

2 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain he was implying that the X-Wing was the first UCS V3, and that the Y-Wing is unlikely to be the second. I personally can't think of any other UCS set with 2 remakes.

You’re right, didn’t make sense that Mando would get that wrong but I clearly wasn’t processing the English language correctly when I read his comment.  I’ll edit.

[Flawless Cowboy]

45 minutes ago, Tariq j said:

Could the Naboo Starfighter rival it? I think there have been 5 so far with one being classed as a "special edition" version but I can't remember if it counted as a UCS set or not.

Lego does consider the “special edition” set from 2002 a UCS set. Came with a plaque and everything. But it absolutely deserves a modern remake. 

[PreVizsla]

12 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

On the topic of trends, is there a SINGLE ship that rivals the Sith Infiltrator in the number of releases without a UCS set? It has received five renditions now. I’m struggling to think of a ship that has had four releases without a UCS honor. Luke’s landspeeder broke its curse after a whopping six tries in playscale form. 

Not sure if this counts, but we had Anakin's interceptor vs. vulture droid in the set 7256 back in 2005. In the same year, we also had Anakin's and Obi-Wan's interceptor in the ultimate space battle set 7283. In 2007, we got another Obi-Wan's interceptor, but in blue (set 7661). In 2012, we got Anakin's interceptor, but in green (set 9494). Then in 2014, Anakin's interceptor came in the set 75038, just to be updated in 2020 with 75281. In the meantime, we got another Obi-Wan's interceptor in 2016 (set 75135).

[icm]

Good thinking, that's definitely the most prominent vehicle that's had lots of playscale releases and no UCS.

And like others have said, there's the Naboo fighter, with an asterisk because the chrome UCS version was no larger than a playscale fighter.

Edited May 9 by icm

[Flawless Cowboy]

1 hour ago, PreVizsla said:

Not sure if this counts, but we had Anakin's interceptor vs. vulture droid in the set 7256 back in 2005. In the same year, we also had Anakin's and Obi-Wan's interceptor in the ultimate space battle set 7283. In 2007, we got another Obi-Wan's interceptor, but in blue (set 7661). In 2012, we got Anakin's interceptor, but in green (set 9494). Then in 2014, Anakin's interceptor came in the set 75038, just to be updated in 2020 with 75281. In the meantime, we got another Obi-Wan's interceptor in 2016 (set 75135).

Def thought about that one as well, didn’t include it because technically they’re different colorways, but as a vehicle it’s up there with Luke’s landspeeder in the number of releases. Next year would be an excellent occasion to do a UCS Anakin’s Interceptor.

[CloneCommando99]

8 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

I used phase 1 clones as an example of a (currently expensive) figure whose inclusion in a battle pack would make it more affordable for kids. 

Most kids don’t buy their own sets with their own money, parents buy sets for them. Furthermore, most sets are purchased online now so this is a moot point. Kids who have actual allowances to spend on toys in-store is an increasingly shrinking, privileged demographic in this economy. So no, I consider bricklink to be perfectly viable (also do you really think a nine year old can’t navigate bricklink?) And since stormtroopers are cheap on bricklink, there is no need for a battlepack. 

 

I really don’t think there’s that many 9 year olds and parents who actually know about Bricklink. I’m pretty sure the average parent/ kid buys the full set off Lego.com or Amazon instead of separate minifigs and parts off Bricklink. Also if kids are experiencing ever shrinking amounts of pocket money isn’t it a good business move by Lego to have a cheap set with the type of Troopers, in this case stormtroopers, that they want?
But I might be mistaken. 
I don’t doubt whether a kid could navigate Bricklink, but whether they’ve actually heard about it.

Speaking of Bricklink, have you guys seen that the scalpers have been buying up all the BD-1 figures. Annoying, but a damn good business move on their part due to Cal being the ISD.

 

 

 

Edited May 9 by CloneCommando99

[Classic_Spaceman]

12 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I would love to see that. But tbh I would prefer to have 3 stormtroopers and 1 stormtrooper heavy trooper. With the build being an imperial checkpoint. 

Heavies are easy to cobble together if you have a black pauldron, though the ammo pouch design from Battlefront would be nice to get at some point. Personally, I would rather see a few separate Imperial packs - One is the ISD add-on, another could be a J:FO/J:S pack with 2x Purge Troopers, 1x Flame Trooper, and 1x Electrostaff Scout Trooper. We would also need the various Imperial specialist troopers, environmental variants, and Army/Security troopers, but I am not going to get that far into wishlisting here! 
 

[CallumPears]

1 hour ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Heavies are easy to cobble together if you have a black pauldron

The issue there is having the black pauldrons. I had a bunch of Sandtrooper commanders which I've been trying to turn into normal troopers and those pauldrons aren't cheap. Would love for them to be more accessible through a battlepack. 

[Mandalorianknight]

10 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

I used phase 1 clones as an example of a (currently expensive) figure whose inclusion in a battle pack would make it more affordable for kids. 

Most kids don’t buy their own sets with their own money, parents buy sets for them. Furthermore, most sets are purchased online now so this is a moot point. Kids who have actual allowances to spend on toys in-store is an increasingly shrinking, privileged demographic in this economy. So no, I consider bricklink to be perfectly viable (also do you really think a nine year old can’t navigate bricklink?) And since stormtroopers are cheap on bricklink, there is no need for a battlepack. 

There's a pretty big flaw in this argument- it's not whether or not kids have the internet browsing ability to navigate the bricklink website- it's A: whether or not they know about it (This applies to parents to, i've had internet-savvy, lego-purchasing parents I've interacted with who had trouble understanding bricklink even after I explained it to them), and more importantly B: whether or not their parents are comfortable with them using it. I know parents who aren't comfortable with their kids using bricklink, and I know parents who don't want their kids buying secondhand or loose figures instead of the on-shelf sets, whether it's due to lack of trust in the site/sellers, not wanting their kids to spend the money solely on figures (this is a real thing I've run into), or other reasons.

But there's also the simple fact that bricklink is secondhand. A lot of people don't like buying secondhand, or at the very least prefer buying things firsthand. If we lived in a world where most people were using bricklink to buy sets, we wouldn't be seeing a new X-wing, TIE, etc every few years, because everyone would just buy the older ones.

58 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

 if you have a black pauldron

I want to know how you managed to end up with spare pauldrons. I think I have about seven official ones in over a decade of collecting. (1 sandtrooper (orange), 1 sandtrooper (black), 2 death trooper (black), 1 ARC trooper (red), 1 snowtrooper captain (red-orange), 1 stormtrooper seargent (white)). And their bricklink prices can be more than the average figure.  I was super excited when I heard the Rex pauldron was going to be on PAB, only for it to be around the amount the figure'll likely go for post-microfighter.

[Flawless Cowboy]

45 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

But there's also the simple fact that bricklink is secondhand. A lot of people don't like buying secondhand, or at the very least prefer buying things firsthand. If we lived in a world where most people were using bricklink to buy sets, we wouldn't be seeing a new X-wing, TIE, etc every few years, because everyone would just buy the older ones.

Well that’s simply not true, older sets retire, become limited, skyrocket in price, and remain static in building techniques/play offerings. Retired sets are available en masse for exorbitant prices on casual sites like Amazon. Lego releasing new renditions of sets has nothing to do with people not knowing how to buy retired sets second hand. Lego now owns bricklink and social media has rapidly increased its popularity, the “I don’t know how to use it” argument is much less valid, especially as we are talking about people who want to army build, who are far more likely to be into Lego and in-the-know. Plus, kids are far less likely to care about getting figures second-hand, that’s more so an adult issue. 

[Lego Nostalgia]

I feel like we'll never get an Incinerator Trooper from the Mandalorian :( We got the Mortar Trooper and they would just have to redo that one but in Red instead of Yellow, it could have been included in the UCS Razor Crest,The Imperial Troop Carrier even though it doesn't make sense but they included the Mortar Trooper in it or in the Mandalorian Advent Calendar.

I'd love for 2 Battlepacks to be made, one for Ahsoka including 3 Night Troopers (2 Regular,1 with the gray color on the front of the helmet) and 1 Zombie Deathtrooper, the other Battlepack would be an Imperial one, 2 Stormtroopers,1 Shadow Trooper in 2022 style with the silver and blue details like the OG ones and 1 Deathtrooper.

[Brickroll]

I think that the other thing worth noting is that probably the vast majority of Lego's audience is not on Lego related social media, so they may not be aware of Bricklink on that end either. They're probably either on Facebook or Twitter if they're the parents of the kids being targeted, or Roblox and TikTok if they're kids, or just not using Social Media at all. We in the online Lego community have a tendency to massively overestimate how much of an impact we will make on the market, I would wager, when AFOLs as a whole make up a fairly small percentage, like 20% if I remember correctly, and that assumes that most AFOLs are online. Now we do have kids and teens online as well, but I'd also hazard a guess there's not too many of them either. Anyways, even huge kid Lego fans are just flat out not going to know about it if they're not majorly online and active in the Lego community, plus all the things @Mandalorianknight pointed out about secondhand things, reliability of sellers, etc. Almost all of my sets from when I was younger came from either Amazon or the store, maybe EBay if it was something I really wanted to push for that was not easily available, but I only used that on maybe one or two occasions. 

I do also question how big an army a kid or even a teen is going to build up as well though--I really don't know who the main target of those actually is, really. I assume it's kids, in which case then the real value is getting an (admittedly very small) army in a box, and not necessarily that they will be getting multiples of the army builder set itself, like AFOLs do. 

[Kit Figsto]

4 hours ago, Brickroll said:

Almost all of my sets from when I was younger came from either Amazon or the store, maybe EBay if it was something I really wanted to push for that was not easily available, but I only used that on maybe one or two occasions. 

I agree, I think BL is pretty well known among the hardcore LEGO community, but even then, I still don't know what percentage of LEGO buyers are aware of it or use it.  The fact that sets on eBay or Amazon reseller shops are priced, in general, significantly higher than the exact same sets on BL (even comparing used to used or new to new), and that these sets continue to sell, even though they can be had for cheaper on BL, tell me that there is a large portion of LEGO buyers that are completely unaware, otherwise there's no reason to not purchase off of BL.

Yes, I know sometimes it's an issue of BL sellers in your country not having the set, which I understand, but there are plenty of times I've seen it with sellers located in the US on both platforms.

[CloneCommando99]

Yeah. In short most people probably don’t know about bricklink let alone 9 year olds.

Is Amazon getting an exclusive every year now? Last year there was the Ghost and this year there’s the ISD.

I’m wondering when we get more news on the R2 KT set.

[Agent Kallus]

I get why people want an all Stormie battlepack, but honestly I'd be disappointed with a battlepack with no new figures ( and I don't want them to redesign the stormtrooper again). There's plenty of unmade imperial troops they could do like the Black scout trooper ( storm commando), the Purge trooper, incinerator stormtrooper, Magma trooper, night trooper, night death trooper, army trooper, TK trooper etc.

On an unrelated note looks like the next magazine after the 501st specialist is gonna be a Lambda shuttle mini build.

Edited May 10 by Agent Kallus

[Mandalorianknight]

10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Yeah. In short most people probably don’t know about bricklink let alone 9 year olds.

 

I’m wondering when we get more news on the R2 KT set.

Exactly

 

It seems to be some sort of special set, and it doesn't release for some time. Does anyone remember when we got info on that weird holiday diorama?

7 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

I get why people want an all Stormie battlepack, but honestly I'd be disappointed with a battlepack with no new figures ( and I don't want them to redesign the stormtrooper again). There's plenty of unmade imperial troops they could do like the Black scout trooper ( storm commando), the Purge trooper, incinerator stormtrooper, Magma trooper, night trooper, night death trooper, army trooper, TK trooper etc.

On an unrelated note looks like the next magazine after the 501st specialist is gonna be a Lambda shuttle mini build.

I don't think people are necessarily arguing for an all-stormie battlepack. I think a lot of people would be happy with a set that includes two stormies and two army troopers, or three stormies and an incinerator, or what have you. 

[CloneCommando99]

8 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

I get why people want an all Stormie battlepack, but honestly I'd be disappointed with a battlepack with no new figures ( and I don't want them to redesign the stormtrooper again). There's plenty of unmade imperial troops they could do like the Black scout trooper ( storm commando), the Purge trooper, incinerator stormtrooper, Magma trooper, night trooper, night death trooper, army trooper, TK trooper etc.

I think an all stormtrooper battlepack makes more sense than having four of the same figures factions because: A) We often see stormtroopers in squads of four. B) The empire is iconic for its sense of uniformity hence why none of the stormtroopers have custom armour markings. 
Believe me there’s a bunch of specialised troopers I’d want: Incinerator Trooper, Army Trooper, Vader’s Fist trooper, Magma trooper, FO Scout Trooper, Jump trooper (and commander variant), Purge Trooper and a stormtrooper commander.

That being said I feel like the 2022 snow trooper battlepack nailed the exact format for what an imperial BP should be (3 grunt troopers and a specialised variant)

51 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't think people are necessarily arguing for an all-stormie battlepack. I think a lot of people would be happy with a set that includes two stormies and two army troopers, or three stormies and an incinerator, or what have you. 

My ideal version is 3 stormtroopers and a stormtrooper Commander (pauldron that consists of printing across torso and cloth like Rex has) An incinerator trooper instead of a commander would be great though.

Here’s hoping for a stormie BP in 2025 to Celebrate Rebel’s 10th and ESB’s 45th anniversaries.

The minimum stormtroopers a stormtrooper battlepack should have is 2. 

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

My ideal version is 3 stormtroopers and a stormtrooper Commander (pauldron that consists of printing across torso and cloth like Rex has) An incinerator trooper instead of a commander would be great though.

Here’s hoping for a stormie BP in 2025 to Celebrate Rebel’s 10th and ESB’s 45th anniversaries.

The minimum stormtroopers a stormtrooper battlepack should have is 2. 

That would be nice- it differentiates the figures and creates a new variant whilst also allowing people to have 4 more generic stormtroopers if they want (I actually don't think we've ever had a minifigure stormtrooper commander before). The pauldron/ammo pouch print on the torso could be used for a generic stormtrooper heavy from BF2017 or some sort of weapons specialist.

I realistically don't think they'll put more than two generic stormtroopers in a pack- though I might be wrong, the snowtrooper pack had three snowtroopers- but I wouldn't say no to something that you can make three normal stormtroopers out of- a pack with 2 stormtroopers, a commander, and an incinerator or heavy trooper or shadow trooper or one of the other billion variants. Though I'm also on my Andor patrol speeder-2x stormtrooper- 2x army trooper thing. That build was MADE for a battle pack. And I love that Andor paid tribute to the thrawn trilogy era idea that stormtroopers were elite crack troops, and they're the main military we see in the OT due to the importance of the situations (hunting the death star plans, being on the death star, attacking the main rebel base, hunting the rebel leadership, defending the second death star) whereas the bulk of the empire's force was army and navy troopers.

[Nokturn]

I just want a Night Trooper battle pack, way more than anything else they could do right now. IMO, they're the most interesting trooper designs we've ever had from Disney SW. It'd be a shame if we never got some to go along with the Peridea set. They're already going through the effort of creating a Captain Enoch; he needs some troopers to command. As others have said, 2 Night Troopers, 1 grey faceplate Night Trooper, and a Death Trooper would be absolutely perfect. The build could be a very scaled down LAAT/le patrol gunship, similar to the Imperial Dropship battle pack from 2008. I really hope it happens as soon as possible, like January.

[CloneCommando99]

25 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

That would be nice- it differentiates the figures and creates a new variant whilst also allowing people to have 4 more generic stormtroopers if they want (I actually don't think we've ever had a minifigure stormtrooper commander before). The pauldron/ammo pouch print on the torso could be used for a generic stormtrooper heavy from BF2017 or some sort of weapons specialist.

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

25 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Though I'm also on my Andor patrol speeder-2x stormtrooper- 2x army trooper thing. That build was MADE for a battle pack. 

Me to Lego after the Andor Season 1 finale:
I had literally the same reaction as you when I saw it. Like why didn’t we get that?! When so many non-canon vehicles are made for battlepacks (for example: minature Av7, Riot control walkers and that weird air speeder (from the 2018 clone and jedi BP)) why is it that when a canon army-buildable vehicle that is battlepack sized shows up in arguably the better pieces of content Lego doesn’t seize the opportunity. It just baffles me.

Also on the subject of Andor and Rogue One… where is the Tie Reaper Lego?!! It’s been almost 10 years since its first appearance. I need it for the DT squad! When was the last imperial troop dropship? It must have been the 2021 Imperial Shuttle. We need something new to land our imperial forces into drop-zones. (Please be a Tie Reaper.)

43 minutes ago, Nokturn said:

I just want a Night Trooper battle pack, way more than anything else they could do right now. IMO, they're the most interesting trooper designs we've ever had from Disney SW. It'd be a shame if we never got some to go along with the Peridea set. They're already going through the effort of creating a Captain Enoch; he needs some troopers to command. As others have said, 2 Night Troopers, 1 grey faceplate Night Trooper, and a Death Trooper would be absolutely perfect. The build could be a very scaled down LAAT/le patrol gunship, similar to the Imperial Dropship battle pack from 2008. I really hope it happens as soon as possible, like January.

Idea: Lego makes an imperial remnant battlepack. Figs: 2 Night Troopers (1 with grey face plate) and 2 normal Stormtroopers. That way everyone’s happy.