LEGO Star Wars 2023 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[ToaDraco]

17 hours ago, Llewop said:

Has anyone else built the spider tank? Don’t know if I built it wrong but it seems very front heavy. Might have to make a few adjustments. 
 

I am a fan of the swamp speeder but the price of the battle pack is still ridiculous 

It's supposed to have a bit of forward rake to it.

16 hours ago, Old Master said:

I might go grab one this weekend just for the figs, I really do not care for the build since it's unfortunately way off the source.

Way off the source??? It's EXTREMELY accurate to the source. If by "inaccurate" you mean needs the cyborg pilot and a cage, that doesn't make the set inaccurate, just incomplete and not exactly hard to make those with a handful of spare parts. If you're referring to the lack of rust, that's kinda subjective and would have resulted in a bunch of stickers and just a few brown pieces scattered into the build. No thanks, I'll stick with the sticker-less set we got.

The Spider Tank itself is a great build and super fun to mess with. It's well-built, sturdy and the skittering legs function is so cool and fun to mess with. I personally really love the set. For the size of the build and figure count and quality I think it compares well to other $50 Star Wars sets in recent years like Boba Fett's Starship. 

[Clone OPatra]

9 hours ago, Hhalcyon said:

I'm leaning towards cheap because I'm sure there's some $5 CMF pack for the chronicles of glubjorp dingleberry or some other second rate license lego puts more effort into than star wars which features a figure with white printed on red perfectly fine.

Nope they're cheap on this with all themes. Even CMF have bad white (and sometimes yellow) on dark colour printing. That doesn't excuse it but they're uniformly atrocious!

8 hours ago, Hhalcyon said:

Things I'd expect out of 1999 Lego, not 2023 Lego. 

Actually LEGO used to be better on print colour and clarity in my opinion. Sure they were never perfect - some old castle figures also had white on red printing that was a bit too light for example - but it's gotten so common now that I literally expect white and sometimes yellow printed on particular colours to look horrible. There's really no excuse for it other than LEGO simply not caring.

[Balrogofmorgoth]

10 hours ago, Hhalcyon said:

Have you actually seen the in-hand pics? his torso and helmet printing is pink because lego is too cheap or too stupid to figure out a way to print white on red properly.

I'm leaning towards cheap because I'm sure there's some $5 CMF pack for the chronicles of glubjorp dingleberry or some other second rate license lego puts more effort into than star wars which features a figure with white printed on red perfectly fine.

I wouldn't have cared as much if they had ALSO butchered his legs by making them red and printing white on them. Then I could kinda ignore it as "thats just what fox looks like in lego" but when you can see his bright white shins contrasting with his pink chestplate it's maddening.

This is honestly a ridiculous take. First of all, it doesn’t look pink at all. But whites printed on darker colors are always washed out, in every theme. Like I said, while it’s not perfectly accurate, he does still look great, and nitpicking doesn’t change that. Your entire outlook seems very out of touch. You’re the latest in a long line of people that continue to try to compare a figure in a set to a CMF, which is wild. People need to realize that those budgets are entirely different. It’s apples and oranges. And Star Wars gets a ton of effort compared to other themes. Everyone else calls Star Wars Lego’s golden child and here we are acting all entitled because it’s not CMF quality. 

Edited August 5, 2023 by Balrogofmorgoth

[Hhalcyon]

3 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

This is honestly a ridiculous take. First of all, it doesn’t look pink at all. But whites printed on darker colors are always washed out, in every theme.

I stopped reading here. You're coping. It's pink. Look at his legs. Look at his chest. If you try and tell me those are the same colour, you are a working on behalf of the lego group, you are an agent of Hans Legomannenstein himself. There is literally no other reason to outright lie on a corporations behalf. Nobody enjoys the taste of shoe leather THAT much to lie that badly for free. Do they have your family? Do we need to get you police assistance?

You are simply acting in bad faith if you see a figure that poorly printed AND THEN DELIBERATELY FALSELY ADVERTISED IN LIFESTYLE IMAGES (they've whitened his torso and head in the official lifestyle pics) and STILL defend lego for that. Actual psyop behaviour. Like you are a Lego employee. It's that simple. You will never convince me otherwise now. At the very minimum you hold shares in the company or something.

[Llewop]

I like the commander figure in the gunship he looks cool. Never watched clone wars so don’t really care if he is accurate or not or if he is too red or to white. I’m going to get the gunship either way. 
 

however i do feel like this forum (whilst we are still technically discussing sets) gets very personal very quickly recently you lot seem to jump on each other a lot. We had the whole “you don’t know how army build” row and now it’s accusing people of working for Lego because they have a different opinion on something. this used to be a nice space to talk and get excited about sets but it’s getting very hostile I don’t like it tbh

 

Edited August 5, 2023 by Llewop

[Shiva]

...

Well.. change of subject.

Coruscant Guard Gunship™ 1083pieces,1950SEK and The Hoopty 429pieces, 1180SEK Marvel. Seem to be the 2 that has the highest cost per piece.

I wonder how bad they fare, if comparing weight vs price. vs other sets?

 

[MKJoshA]

1 hour ago, Hhalcyon said:

I stopped reading here. You're coping. It's pink. Look at his legs. Look at his chest. If you try and tell me those are the same colour, you are a working on behalf of the lego group, you are an agent of Hans Legomannenstein himself. There is literally no other reason to outright lie on a corporations behalf. Nobody enjoys the taste of shoe leather THAT much to lie that badly for free. Do they have your family? Do we need to get you police assistance?

You are simply acting in bad faith if you see a figure that poorly printed AND THEN DELIBERATELY FALSELY ADVERTISED IN LIFESTYLE IMAGES (they've whitened his torso and head in the official lifestyle pics) and STILL defend lego for that. Actual psyop behaviour. Like you are a Lego employee. It's that simple. You will never convince me otherwise now. At the very minimum you hold shares in the company or something.

This is very over-the-top. You can disagree with @Balrogofmorgoth without taking it this far. Please take this as an official warning.

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

9 hours ago, ToaDraco said:

It's supposed to have a bit of forward rake to it.

Way off the source??? It's EXTREMELY accurate to the source. If by "inaccurate" you mean needs the cyborg pilot and a cage, that doesn't make the set inaccurate, just incomplete and not exactly hard to make those with a handful of spare parts. If you're referring to the lack of rust, that's kinda subjective and would have resulted in a bunch of stickers and just a few brown pieces scattered into the build. No thanks, I'll stick with the sticker-less set we got.

The Spider Tank itself is a great build and super fun to mess with. It's well-built, sturdy and the skittering legs function is so cool and fun to mess with. I personally really love the set. For the size of the build and figure count and quality I think it compares well to other $50 Star Wars sets in recent years like Boba Fett's Starship. 

To me the Spider Tank looks accurate, just very oversized. I would’ve preferred if it had a bit more brown pieces, but the source material isn’t interesting to me so I wouldn’t have bought it anyways. 

[Mandalorianknight]

Just built the 332nd pack, my thoughts:

The set is an INCREDIBLE parts pack! 3x3 quarter circle curved slopes, 1/2 pins with friction in DBG, 1x1 plate with 2 handles, etc. Tons of parts I didn't have yet in LBG/DBG, and I'm looking forewords to seeing those 3x3 quarter circle curved slope prices go down for TIE mocs.

The figures are take 'em or leave 'em. They're fine. My Vaughn will be using a dark red visor. The jetpacks are a nice addition, but the set has 2 new prints, which is kind of insanely low for a battle pack that's asking for $20.

And that's my main issue with the set. I got it for $5 (basically just paid shipping) due to VIP points, but I would not have paid more than $15 for this. Even the specialists pack felt more "worth it" than this, the swamp speeder is just so tiny and the figs are pretty generic. 

Oh, and once again, no controls? It'd be like 2 pieces. C'mon.

What would have solved these issues for me (and the additional nitpick of the 332nd never using a swamp speeder) would be if they'd made this a 327th pack with 3x 327th troopers and Bly. The additional prints and pauldrons would have made the set feel like a much better value for money (given pauldrons' aftermarket prices, getting 4 in a $20 set would be great, and can't cost lego much at all), and it'd be nice to get a new legion instead of the 501st with orange paint on their faces.

Edited August 5, 2023 by Mandalorianknight

[Mandalorianknight]

14 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

This, 1000%. If you want to toss some diverse heads under some stormies, whatever, but we actually see who made up the bulk of the Tantive IV's security force. If Lego wants to mix things up with the RFTs, they can make another battle pack.

I am curious to see how many figures the set comes with though. My guess is probably Vader, 2x Stormtroopers and 3x Rebels, or 2 rebels and Captain Antilles, but we'll see.

Exactly! The Rebel Fleet troopers in ANH/Rogue one tended to be middle-aged white dudes. Making sets of that scene where it's suddenly 50/50 male/female and racially diverse is really weird, and one of the things I didn't like about the rebel hoth pack. If it's this important to lego that the generic troops are racially diverse, do a scarif rebels pack, the rogue one wave was incredibly accurate to the actual soldiers present to the point grunts were based on specific extras... and to my knowledge we still need Melshi, who ironically has become the most prevalent guy.

The set is $54.99, right? I could see Vader, 2 stormies, and 3 rebels, or just Vader and 4 rebels depending on how they want to do it.

4 hours ago, Llewop said:

however i do feel like this forum (whilst we are still technically discussing sets) gets very personal very quickly recently you lot seem to jump on each other a lot. We had the whole “you don’t know how army build” row and now it’s accusing people of working for Lego because they have a different opinion on something. this used to be a nice space to talk and get excited about sets but it’s getting very hostile I don’t like it tbh

Where's that guy who's signature is "this tread is hostile, Jim can you please close it" or something when you need him?

But yeah. Whenever the prequels and clones are discussed there are frequently accusations that people work for lego. At least this time we didn't have anyone unleash the classic "lego secretly hates the prequels and is intentionally sabotaging the sales of their own products by making the clone sets not perfect" coping mechanism.

Edit: Sorry for double post, I thought they would merge.

Edited August 5, 2023 by Mandalorianknight

[starlego98]

I don't know if this question goes to this topic, but do you think that lego will release phase 1 clone sets after they ended releasing everything related about phase 2 clones?

[ForgedInLego]

1 hour ago, starlego98 said:

I don't know if this question goes to this topic, but do you think that lego will release phase 1 clone sets after they ended releasing everything related about phase 2 clones?

Since there is a clone super battle pack coming out in January it could fit, but I'd say there's a good chance. Lego knows the Clone Trooper Command Station was constantly out of stock and they'll probably capitalize on it like they did with the 501st pack which was also in high demand.

[Nobricksleft]

Came back from vacation and find a box on the porch. What is this? Forgot I pre-ordered the Spider Tank back in May. 😁

Bo Katan print looks amazing and it will be fun MOCing the tank to add pseudo-Grievous in it.

[Balrogofmorgoth]

4 hours ago, starlego98 said:

I don't know if this question goes to this topic, but do you think that lego will release phase 1 clone sets after they ended releasing everything related about phase 2 clones?

I would really love some more Phase 1 clones honestly. Obviously I would love some specific TCW P1 troops like Domino Squad, updated Rex and Cody, Waxer, Boil, updated Fox, Ponds, Stone, Bly, etc. but to be honest I would also love more plain Shiny P1 troopers. I ended up getting about five of the Command Station packs but they were just so hard to get a hold of and the feet that they included a Commander really made it hard to army build plain troops. But yeah more P1 clones all around would be great. (I love P2 clones as well and don’t want them to stop just so we’re clear). I’m really hoping we’ve only seen the top of the iceberg when it comes to clone centered lego sets

Edited August 6, 2023 by Balrogofmorgoth

[Clone OPatra]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

and it'd be nice to get a new legion instead of the 501st with orange paint on their faces.

Totally agreed. I hope LEGO is smart enough to know that all of the fan fervour for a 501st Battle Pack didn't mean fans ONLY want 501st battle packs, because since 2020 the only clone ones have been 501st or 501st adjacent, while other legions are on other types of sets.

I am glad for the people who either didn't get the previous set with a 332nd (which should've always included at least two of them - just one was pathetic), or wanted to army build in a cheaper and more accessible way, but for me I just have no interest coming off of the other 501st sets.

Personally I'd most like to see either 327th or 21st Nova Corps. Both would look substantially different to the other available clones, and have either cool accessories pauldrons for 327th) or new moulds (Baccara's helmet at least). Though without kamas, the Nova Corps would look pretty inaccurate.

[BrickBob Studpants]

10 hours ago, starlego98 said:

I don't know if this question goes to this topic, but do you think that lego will release phase 1 clone sets after they ended releasing everything related about phase 2 clones?

These two don’t rule each other out and there’s no pattern to it. I mean, last year they released that AOTC accessory pack alongside phase 2 clone sets

16 hours ago, Hhalcyon said:

At the very minimum you hold shares in the company or something.

Holding shares in a company that‘s not even listed at the stock market? Are you accusing him of being a member of the Christiansen family? Or a wizard?

[Old Master]

I still gotta pre order the Ghost... completely turned off to the T6 seeing only half of it is done. Need that Ahsoka fig still.

[starlego98]

6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

These two don’t rule each other out and there’s no pattern to it. I mean, last year they released that AOTC accessory pack alongside phase 2 clone sets

Holding shares in a company that‘s not even listed at the stock market? Are you accusing him of being a member of the Christiansen family? Or a wizard?

Maybe on the 20th anniversary of The Clone Wars (2028), LEGO will start remaking sets based on p1 clones and maybe they'll remake count Dooku, who knows

[Old Master]

Just realized that idk if we know this but is the Lekku on the upcoming Ahsoka supposed to be a solid mold or rubbery like TCW version?

[Agent Kallus]

8 minutes ago, Old Master said:

Just realized that idk if we know this but is the Lekku on the upcoming Ahsoka supposed to be a solid mold or rubbery like TCW version?

I think it's solid ABS, I hope so at least.

[ArrowBricks]

Here’s my guess for the Clones Vs Droids Battle Pack. 
 

Clone Walker 

CIS STAP 

Crab Droid 

Edited August 6, 2023 by ArrowBricks

[Llewop]

1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said:

Here’s my guess for the Clones Vs Droids Battle Pack. 
 

Clone Walker 

CIS STAP 

Crab Droid 

I agree with the STAP as I think there is one in the advent calendar and more often or not if it appears in the advent calendar it tends to come in the following year.

I have a feeling they are going to redo the first two battle packs ever made and put it into one. So a clone speeder and turret and a droid carrier and STAP.

I think most people will get this set for the B2s regardless of build or clone legion 

 

[ArrowBricks]

43 minutes ago, Llewop said:

I have a feeling they are going to redo the first two battle packs ever made and put it into one. So a clone speeder and turret and a droid carrier and STAP.

 

It’s only 215 pieces or so, and based on modern standards I think I’d be surprised if Lego manages to incorporate all these things given the pieces. But, you never know! 

43 minutes ago, Llewop said:

I think most people will get this set for the B2s regardless of build or clone legion 

I think so, but the levels of purchasing will be really high if it’s standard clones and the builds are good, especially the CIS vehicles as we don’t really have any thus far. 

Battle Pack build interests are definitely subjective, and personally amazing builds make a battle pack great not good. 

Edited August 6, 2023 by ArrowBricks

[Mandalorianknight]

On 8/5/2023 at 9:27 AM, Hhalcyon said:

At the very minimum you hold shares in the company or something.

Not to minimod, but adding on to what @BrickBob Studpants said, this is literally impossible unless he's a member of the family. People can disagree with you without working for or owning a share in a company you seem to hate despite being on a forum about it's toys.

Also, the print issue happens with lego all the time, and fox really isn't that bad of an offender, I'm guessing you just got a bad copy. For a few years there every batman was either super pale or super tan. The bigger issue IMO is that they photoshopped the ball joint in the chewbacca set to a literal different color in some images, which I think is a much bigger case of false advertising since it's not just idealizing a print but changing the actual part used in the set. That said, I don't think people who don't care as much work for lego.

13 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

Totally agreed. I hope LEGO is smart enough to know that all of the fan fervour for a 501st Battle Pack didn't mean fans ONLY want 501st battle packs, because since 2020 the only clone ones have been 501st or 501st adjacent, while other legions are on other types of sets.

I am glad for the people who either didn't get the previous set with a 332nd (which should've always included at least two of them - just one was pathetic), or wanted to army build in a cheaper and more accessible way, but for me I just have no interest coming off of the other 501st sets.

Personally I'd most like to see either 327th or 21st Nova Corps. Both would look substantially different to the other available clones, and have either cool accessories pauldrons for 327th) or new moulds (Baccara's helmet at least). Though without kamas, the Nova Corps would look pretty inaccurate.

100% agree with all of this. I got my one with VIP points, and I will not be getting another.

45 minutes ago, Llewop said:

I have a feeling they are going to redo the first two battle packs ever made and put it into one. So a clone speeder and turret and a droid carrier and STAP.

I think most people will get this set for the B2s regardless of build or clone legion 

I agree. It fits with Renown's statement that MOST of the builds can't fly- it's only the STAP, not the turret, carrier, or BARC (Which is in a grey area, but I wouldn't see speeder bikes can fly in the same way an ARC-170 can), and lego's done battle pack remakes before (imperial dropship, mandalorians)

Though ironically, I think I'm much more likely to buy it (or at least buy more of it) if the builds ARE remakes of the 2007 ones. I think it'd be really cool (and I actually remade them as my first two digital mocs posted here, years ago- shown in spoiler):

Spoiler

 

There are two things that would turn me off from the battle pack- the clones are some version of the 501st, or the clones are P1. I've already explained why I don't want to see another 501st battle pack for a minimum of half a decade, but as for the P1s, I've just collected a pretty solid number of p2 clones and don't really want to collect multiple clone armies that can't be displayed together in the way different legions can. Just a personal choice.

[Llewop]

24 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

There are two things that would turn me off from the battle pack- the clones are some version of the 501st, or the clones are P1. I've already explained why I don't want to see another 501st battle pack for a minimum of half a decade, but as for the P1s, I've just collected a pretty solid number of p2 clones and don't really want to collect multiple clone armies that can't be displayed together in the way different legions can. Just a personal choice.

I agree 100% has to be any legion apart from the 501st. I can’t see any logic in them doing it again. 3 different types of packs you can’t do anymore although someone did say they could do ARC troopers and I did have a horrid thought they could try to do 501st airbourne troopers (don’t know if they exist in canon but when does Lego ever care)

I’d be annoyed if it was Cody’s lot (I’m bad with remembering battlation numbers) as I still got the troopers from Utapau BP and in the U.K. we had the trooper in the magazine so I’ve got a fairly good number of them 

I personally as I’ve got older grown to dislike P1 clones I sold all mine last year for this reason.