brickbride Posted July 23 Posted July 23 17 hours ago, NXS7 said: Pretty sure that's just her weapons, but now I can't unsee it Someone on reddit said that Thing and Doom in the Quinjet set look like they're having a boxing match and now I can't unsee that either. Quote
psqidexslizer Posted July 23 Posted July 23 10 minutes ago, brickbride said: Someone on reddit said that Thing and Doom in the Quinjet set look like they're having a boxing match and now I can't unsee that either. Closest we’re gonna get to a Dardevil: Born Agian set. Quote
Scarilian Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) At this stage we could be hearing Phase 7 news the weekend as they've already released the Avengers: Doomsday trailer and most projects releasing in 2028 would need to start filming next year before the next SDCC. 13 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: Is Iron Heart confirmed to appear in these movies? That's so crazy to me that they picked her over Captain Marvel. I believe most the Phase 4 & 5 characters, including Iron Heart, are being saved for Secret Wars. 11 hours ago, BoyLego said: I’m not sure this is a prototype, just looks like a different image of the same set to me. Might just be me, looks like the above hair piece in black, figure appearing to be facing looking up towards the Sentinel. Mystique, left Nightcrawler, Sentinel's hand Magneto, above Mr. Fantastic - Sentinel's hand Thor, right side Doctor Doom, middle ?, bottom right corner near the fourth/fifth dash from the right. Edited July 23 by Scarilian Quote
BoyLego Posted July 23 Posted July 23 24 minutes ago, Scarilian said: Might just be me, looks like the above hair piece in black, figure appearing to be facing looking up towards the Sentinel. Mystique, left Gambit, Sentinel's hand Magneto, above Mr. Fantastic - Sentinel's hand Thor, right side Doctor Doom, middle ?, bottom right corner near the fourth/fifth dash from the right. I’m pretty certain that’s nightcrawler, not gambit in that hand, you can see the blue face. The thing bottom right doesn’t look like a figure to me, if you look at Thor nearby, it’s too small. I think it’s supposed to be torn metal coming out of the damaged sentinel arm on the ground. If you look at the other photo you can see something similar coming out of the bottom of the damaged head. Quote
Scarilian Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) Apparently they switched out the Latverian Witch costume display - First Green, now Yellow/Orange. Spoiler Are we going like a traffic light and the next will be Red... perhaps Scarlet? 2 hours ago, BoyLego said: The thing bottom right doesn’t look like a figure to me, if you look at Thor nearby, it’s too small. I think it’s supposed to be torn metal coming out of the damaged sentinel arm on the ground. If you look at the other photo you can see something similar coming out of the bottom of the damaged head. Gambit on the brain, fixed it. I'm mostly sure it's an arm but there's a bit there that just looks like the hair piece to me. Edited July 23 by Scarilian Quote
Swordy Posted July 23 Posted July 23 On 7/16/2026 at 9:29 PM, Mandalorianknight said: Thank you. How do you swordy me on my own Literally Me? Yeah. $60 quinjet has no chance. I'm somewhat optimistic that the $100 price tag means that Sentinel will be our biggest yet and a pretty nice build... but even if it IS a great build, this is by far the worst epic moments set in terms of fig count for the cost. Very disappointing. Seeing as a number of the characters in the scene would only need one new print (Reed torso, Steve head, Shang-Chi torso) and others like CapFalc and Doom are/can be re-uses, this should have been a 10 minifig set. You pull Samcap and Cyclops here, add in Shang-Chi and Steve, and then maybe we could have gotten Ava and John in the Quinjet. (And add Sue to the tower regardless- for $110 that should also have a fig that would only require one new print) The build for this one needs to be stellar or I'm not even looking at it. $110 with six figs and it doesn't even include the full Bolts team? Unfair. This is 100% how they were able to give him that level of detail- he eats the cost of four figs. I would easily have taken one with unprinted arms and the existing hold mold if it meant we could have finished the bolts and/or F4 and/or X-men. I am Vegetable. I am the Nitro Pepsi. I am… Swordy. (To be fair, without your raving over John Walker's character I probably wouldn't love the character like I do now. So it becomes a symbiotic circle between the Gungans and the Naboo.) Strangely I'm comfortable with the $100 price tag, but I definitely agree that more could've been included. Two of the figs in the leaked image appear to be reuses. That said, I recall the previous Final Battle sets having a similar number of new prints (4 for Civil War and 6 for Endgame). All of them up until now have had inaccurate reuses for the pure sake of "budget", and maybe one or two new figures at best, so this one not having only one slight inaccuracy and four brand new figs is certainly plus. AND—unless my youthful eyes and those spare pixels deceive me—BUCKY'S BACK TO THE BLACK HAIR AND THAT UGLY FACE PRINT. I still hold out hope we'll see those teams completed next March, in which case I'd rather a deluxe Doom and everyone, however late they show up. I realize I may be too optimistic, though. On 7/7/2026 at 9:00 PM, Mandalorianknight said: I don't believe magneto uses the helmet, I imagine it's in part a symbolic thing because he no longer has to block his mind from Professor X. Right, he shouldn't. …yet he does. Perhaps Doom shows some telepathic powers? Are there any mind-readers on the Avengers whom I'm forgetting? Other than the obvious rule of cool, why? On 7/7/2026 at 6:27 PM, JeanGreyForever said: I think we're getting a full reboot of the X-Men cast, although there are some alleged leaks that Hugh Jackman will be the only one sticking around as Wolverine and won't be recast. I don't see Fassbender and McAvoy coming back because while they were the two most popular parts of the rebooted cast, they never stuck around into the public consciousness the way Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart did. Plus Feige had no involvement with the First Class reboot so I don't see him having any interest in bringing anything from those movies back. The Evan Peters appearance in WandaVision was likely it and even that turned out to be a red herring. Your views on the 4 reboot movies are pretty close to what general audiences think, outside of you liking Dark Phoenix. If out of those 4 movies, the only one you really enjoyed was DOFP, then I do think you'd like the original X-Men trilogy if you ever watched them. DOFP is closest in tone to those movies (particularly X2: X-Men United). Since it seems like you liked Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, he's the lead in all those trilogy movies just like he's the lead of DOFP. I don't think it's a coincidence that the rest of the X-Men reboot movies struggled without him. Also for Doomsday, it would be worth watching the trilogy just to get to know those characters beforehand. The ending of DOFP will also hit harder when you've spent more time with the original cast and get to see them get their happy ending (before Doomsday probably destroys that lol). I don't know if you've heard of the Rogue cut, but it's a DOFP extended edition featuring scenes with Rogue from the original trilogy. She's a major character there, particularly in her connection to Wolverine, so if you ever watch the original trilogy, I'd recommend following it up with The Wolverine (2013) as it's a direct sequel to the trilogy (features Wolverine's grief over Jean Grey's death and then sets up the return of Magneto and Professor X to deal with the Sentinel threat in DOFP), and then watching DOFP: The Rogue Cut. All those extended scenes are set in the future timeline with the original cast so you'd find them of more interest once you became familiar with the original cast. For the Sentinel set, there are leaks that show what it looks like in Doomsday. The MCU generally uses a more muted color palette like you said, so that's also my guess that it won't directly match the Sentinel we got in the X-Mansion set. The leaks corroborate this but the footage was also somewhat grainy so it's hard to tell. But it wasn't the bright color palette from the comics/X-Mansion set. Nightcrawler seems to have Reveal hidden contents white hair in Doomsday, for whatever reason. So for the people wondering if he'll be able to match up with the X-Mansion set minifigs, he's going to look completely different. His suit might be more comic accurate in comparison to his X2 look, but it's still very far off from the aesthetics of the comics. In the movies, Nightcrawler also had carvings in his face and body whereas he's got no such facial marks in the comics and he's supposed to furry there. Mystique, similarly, does not have scales in the comics. The most interesting part of the Wolverine character has been Hugh Jackman for me. I'd prefer to see the character evolve outside of one actor, but I understand why they wouldn't. I'd say the only reason Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart have stuck around in public consciousness is moreso due to their other iconic roles (Gandalf and Picard, respectively) than those performances. (In all fairness, Patrick Stewart was born to play Charles Xavier. I suppose I disagree that Ian McKellan is 100% Magneto, although I admit I only know that version from DoFP.) I wasn't big on the Evan Peters as Quicksilver, so I don't feel so bad that he won't make it around. I fully see your point that Feige would only bring back actor with whom he has a relationship; my argument is that Fassbender sold the character onscreen each time, so he'd be my personal choice. I only say McAvoy since him and Fassbender already have an established chemistry (not to mention they're old enough to be distinct from a 20s-age cast but young enough to have longevity), but otherwise I feel not as strong about him. I was shocked to learn how hated Dark Phoenix is after first watching it. I won't argue it's a great film but I enjoyed it thoroughly. As for the X-Trilogy, you may have convinced me… I am interested in the Wolverine movies, so I'd definitely give that one a watch too. I have heard of the Rogue Cut; it's not available on Disney+ so I haven't given it a watch yet, and like you said it'd appeal moreso to the 2000s X-Men fan. I have a hairy memory of seeing the full movie on YouTube, so perhaps that'll be the route I take. Based off the most recent leak, it seems that LEGO went for the brighter colour scheme this time. I'm glad since that works perfectly for most fans. Interesting and disappointing for comic/X-Men '97 fans (of which I'm one). There are several alternate hair options for Nightcrawler (such as one from Dreamzzz) which may work for a quick fix, but you're right that it won't be perfect. I hadn't realized that neither in the comics have scales; goes to show how influential those films were, lol. I liked the Doomsday trailer well enough. I've probably rewatched it ten times already. It doesn't make me any more hyped for the movie since I know for a fact Marvel Studios will fool me into garbage when they can. (I dare not even bring to memory the title of that abomination last February.) Seeing everyone together in the same room is exciting; very late, but better that than never on a massive crossover. The Gambit vs the Ten Rings fight (Shang who?) was probably my favourite moment. The cinematography looks gorgeous—that shot of Doom prior to the Marvel Studios logo in particular. There are a couple of scenes and easter eggs that give me something to chew on, but like I said my excitement and expectation for this movie remains the pretty same. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted July 24 Posted July 24 2 hours ago, Swordy said: I am Vegetable. I am the Nitro Pepsi. I am… Swordy. (To be fair, without your raving over John Walker's character I probably wouldn't love the character like I do now. So it becomes a symbiotic circle between the Gungans and the Naboo.) Strangely I'm comfortable with the $100 price tag, but I definitely agree that more could've been included. Two of the figs in the leaked image appear to be reuses. That said, I recall the previous Final Battle sets having a similar number of new prints (4 for Civil War and 6 for Endgame). All of them up until now have had inaccurate reuses for the pure sake of "budget", and maybe one or two new figures at best, so this one not having only one slight inaccuracy and four brand new figs is certainly plus. AND—unless my youthful eyes and those spare pixels deceive me—BUCKY'S BACK TO THE BLACK HAIR AND THAT UGLY FACE PRINT. I still hold out hope we'll see those teams completed next March, in which case I'd rather a deluxe Doom and everyone, however late they show up. I realize I may be too optimistic, though. Right, he shouldn't. …yet he does. Perhaps Doom shows some telepathic powers? Are there any mind-readers on the Avengers whom I'm forgetting? Other than the obvious rule of cool, why? I am proud to open more eyes to how great his character is. If only lego saw the same. Thing is, you could easily have added some more re-uses. Sam could have been in this set in a re-used suit, leaving a spot in the quinjet for John Walker another character. Similiarly, there are plenty of characters that only would have required one new print, like Shang-Chi (or even gambit- I can't imagine it costs more to print the torso and legs on reddish brown instead of dark tan, so you'd really only need a new head print). I can't see the print but it's definitely that stupid black hair. Somebody needs to get on lego about this, I don't get how they're thinking his hair is black. "BUT I WANT IT NOW!" - IF they complete the team next march, fine, I can stomach it, so long as the set John and Ava comes in includes a personal apology letter. But I doubt it will- Marvel's comic and legacy sets may have been/will be some spectacular choices, but their MCU sets just aren't up to the same par. Yeah I guess he suits up at some point after than we see him looking geriatric in the trailer. I would guess it's just that he considers the helmet part of the uniform. You know, as man famously said, if you're gonna fight a war, you've gotta wear a uniform. And then he proceeded to roll up to the fate of the multiverse in a T-shirt... 7 hours ago, Scarilian said: Apparently they switched out the Latverian Witch costume display - First Green, now Yellow/Orange. Hide contents Are we going like a traffic light and the next will be Red... perhaps Scarlet? Gambit on the brain, fixed it. I'm mostly sure it's an arm but there's a bit there that just looks like the hair piece to me. Big spoilers if true but allegedly- Spoiler -there are four witches- We know for sure that Wanda and Clea are two of them, the third one shapeshifts into Peggy and fails to trick Steve, and there seems to be some contention on the fourth one but it's likely Sylvie- as well as a wizard "with three eyes" (so Strange). Quote
brickbride Posted July 24 Posted July 24 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Big spoilers if true but allegedly- Reveal hidden contents -there are four witches- We know for sure that Wanda and Clea are two of them, the third one shapeshifts into Peggy and fails to trick Steve, and there seems to be some contention on the fourth one but it's likely Sylvie- as well as a wizard "with three eyes" (so Strange). Oh man. The more I hear about Doomsday the less I'm looking forward to it. This movie will be so confusing. Like now it's no longer "You should have watched this show then you'd know who that is" - Spoiler Clea was in Spoiler Dr Strange 2 for half a minute, she had like one line, she wasn't even named. We know or care nothing about her. Spoiler I also have a hard time believing that the Strange we know would join somebody's masked cabal. Not only is he way more heroic and principled than people like Sylvie and Wanda, he's very much not a follower. He's constantly skirting the rules of Kamar-Taj and barely even acknowledges the authority of the Sorceror Supreme who is his former teacher and best friend. Edited July 24 by brickbride Quote
Lego Nostalgia Posted July 24 Posted July 24 what is all this talk about a 7th figure in the Sentinel set ? I only see 6 on the box, plz dont give me hope for gambit Quote
Scarilian Posted July 24 Posted July 24 39 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said: what is all this talk about a 7th figure in the Sentinel set ? I only see 6 on the box, plz dont give me hope for gambit Unclear if it's there, but a possible prototype/leaked image via instagram user 'avengers_doomsday_leaks_' Quote
Lego Nostalgia Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Just now, Scarilian said: Unclear if it's there, but a possible prototype/leaked image via instagram user 'avengers_doomsday_leaks_' Looks kinda like a figure but probably just the metal from the arm, i only see 6 figures on the box so Quote
BoyLego Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Doesn’t look like the sets are at SDCC, unless they plan to reveal them part way through (I don’t know if they ever do that?) Hope we get something better than these 4 blurry pixels soon Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted July 24 Posted July 24 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said: what is all this talk about a 7th figure in the Sentinel set ? I only see 6 on the box, plz dont give me hope for gambit Scarlian thinks there may have been one, but regardless, there isn't anymore. We'll have to keep waiting for himtomakeanameforhimselfhere. 12 hours ago, brickbride said: Oh man. The more I hear about Doomsday the less I'm looking forward to it. This movie will be so confusing. Like now it's no longer "You should have watched this show then you'd know who that is" - Reveal hidden contents Clea was in Reveal hidden contents Dr Strange 2 for half a minute, she had like one line, she wasn't even named. We know or care nothing about her. Reveal hidden contents I also have a hard time believing that the Strange we know would join somebody's masked cabal. Not only is he way more heroic and principled than people like Sylvie and Wanda, he's very much not a follower. He's constantly skirting the rules of Kamar-Taj and barely even acknowledges the authority of the Sorceror Supreme who is his former teacher and best friend. I don't think Spoiler Clea Is going to be framed as if we're supposed to care about the character- from the leaks it sounds like some of his other henchmen are newly introduced, so my guess is if you know the more obscure ones great, if not the movie doesn't expect you to stand up and clap. All that said, the witch is now purple, which aligns with what I said yesterday and what we'd been seeing earlier. It's funny after all the discussion about scarlet witch being absent- if they really are rotating through colors of witch costumes to build mystery only to (presumably) end on a scarlet witch costume tomorrow, they're giving her more attention than anyone in the trailers outside Thor/Steve/Doom. Just rewatched deadpool and wolverine and it only makes me more sad that Gambit won't be in wave 1. Not as sad as John Walker and Ghost being excluded, but still disappointing. Edited July 24 by Mandalorianknight Quote
brickbride Posted July 24 Posted July 24 (edited) Spoiler There is one witch we know whose colour is purple and who's associated with Wanda, though she's currently a ghost (Agatha). @Mandalorianknight Edited July 24 by brickbride Quote
JeanGreyForever Posted July 24 Posted July 24 13 minutes ago, brickbride said: Hide contents There is one witch we know whose colour is purple and who's associated with Wanda, though she's currently a ghost (Agatha). @Mandalorianknight Spoiler it's going to be Clea. She's in the leaks with Wanda and Strange and the ending of MoM set her and Strange up for this role. 52 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: All that said, the witch is now purple, which aligns with what I said yesterday and what we'd been seeing earlier. It's funny after all the discussion about scarlet witch being absent- if they really are rotating through colors of witch costumes to build mystery only to (presumably) end on a scarlet witch costume tomorrow, they're giving her more attention than anyone in the trailers outside Thor/Steve/Doom. Not a surprise since even without being in the trailer, she was trending and most of the comments were asking about her. We'll definitely see the red version right before the announcement. I've heard at SDCC, they plan on announcing the next batch of confirmed characters. 13 hours ago, brickbride said: Hide contents I also have a hard time believing that the Strange we know would join somebody's masked cabal. Not only is he way more heroic and principled than people like Sylvie and Wanda, he's very much not a follower. He's constantly skirting the rules of Kamar-Taj and barely even acknowledges the authority of the Sorceror Supreme who is his former teacher and best friend. Spoiler I think he's in his Infinity War mode where he knows this route is the only one that will save the universe, hence his "betrayal." Although I think we should also remember that MoM established that in pretty much every universe, he goes power hungry and turns bad. The Illuminati said he was a greater threat to the multiverse than Wanda, which makes sense since all you have to do is give Wanda her kids and she's fine. We saw her variants and they weren't a threat, unlike Strange who we've seen multiple variants of and they're pretty much all bad apples. I don't agree with him being more heroic and principled either. Even in MoM, Wanda calls out his hypocrisy that everything he got mad at her for doing, he does himself and he still has the gall to consider himself a hero. Quote
brickbride Posted July 24 Posted July 24 (edited) @JeanGreyForeverIf I remember correctly we've talked about this before, but I still strongly disagree with what you've written about Strange. For one thing, what do you mean all variants of him in MoM turn out to be power-hungry bad apples? Sure there's Evil Strange in his destroyed Sanctum but that only serves to illustrate that the others aren't, in fact, evil. (There's probably also a selfless version of Wanda around somewhere given a multiverse with infinite possibilities. We just haven't met her.) The one who befriended America (and ended up a zombie) wasn't evil. The one from the Illuminati universe made a catastrophic error and was deeply sorry for it, enough to not even protest his own execution. I'd hardly call that evil. And wouldn't Wanda's plan of stealing herself some children from another universe also have led to an incursion, and thus the death of trillions? And Strange is the one who stopped her! So I'm not sure how your takeaway from all that is that Strange is more evil than Wanda. I agree that he may be more of a threat (though the person who said so was hardly unbiased) because like you've said, all Wanda cares about is herself whereas Strange takes a much broader perspective; also Strange has a capacity for long-term planning, i.e. the whole "one possibility in millions" thing, that we haven't really seen from Wanda. But the mere fact that Strange was still, last we saw, Master of his Sanctum and even (if somewhat reluctantly) acknowledging the authority of Sorcerer Supreme Wong testifies to the fact that he's not an evil, power-hungry maniac. Basically, Wanda and Strange are a lot alike in that they're both extremists who'll do anything in order to reach their goals. But there's two key differences IMO: 1) Strange's goals usually serve the public good (defeating Dormammu, negating Thanos' snap, stopping Wanda). He may be dickish, self-aggrandizing, and/or ruthless in achieving them, and he tolerates a lot of pain and suffering in the cause of them, but there's usually a net positive for the public (catastrophic incursions notwithstanding) and he doesn't exempt himself from the necessary pain and suffering either (being tortured like that by Dormammu can hardly have been fun). Wanda's goals, meanwhile, usually don't benefit anyone but herself (holding an entire town hostage and traumatizing untold people in order to play happy families with her dead husband and imaginary children, torturing a child in order to steal someone's children, killing a shitload of Kamar-Taj wizards just for protecting America) and come with plenty of pain and suffering solely for others, often innocent bystanders. 2) Strange's inability to find anything wrong with his plans seems to mainly stem from the fact that he's a very cold, logic-driven person. Why are other people so squeamish about stuff like dreamwalking into your own dead doppelganger's body in order to create a zombie? It makes perfect sense if you think about it! Wanda, meanwhile, is a very emotional person and knows perfectly well what she inflicts on others, she just doesn't care. I.e. she suffered the loss of her children, and her idea of dealing with that was putting another universe's Wanda through exactly the same thing for her own gain. I actually think that even Sylvie is less evil than Wanda; she killed a shitload of TVA agents but they were hunting her, and she's always been vocal about people in other, non-sacred timelines deserving to live their lives, too. Though she is still selfish and impulsive, i.e. about killing Him Who Remains to absolutely no-one's gain just because she felt like it. But overall she's more reasonable than Wanda, accepting whatever peace she can find instead of Wanda's "I deserve all the nice things and I don't care who suffers for it" mentality. Edited July 24 by brickbride Quote
Kaijumeister Posted July 24 Author Posted July 24 (edited) I’m really itching to see the Doomsday sets in HQ. Hopefully by the end of this weekend! All things considered, the Sentinel Battle seems like it will be the strongest set of the lot. I think the Avengerz Tower looks a lot worse than it actually will be because of the image quality of the leaks. Or perhaps I’m coping. Edited July 24 by Kaijumeister Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted July 24 Posted July 24 3 hours ago, brickbride said: Reveal hidden contents There is one witch we know whose colour is purple and who's associated with Wanda, though she's currently a ghost (Agatha). @Mandalorianknight I would say it's more likely Spoiler Clea . It would make more sense for that character to ally with doom given we know Spoiler Strange does, and presumably Clea is with him , and it's notable that there's barely any show characters in this movie despite it's massive cast. The only one off the top of my head is that this version of Loki got a lot of development in the show, but of course loki as a character and the TVA as a concept have both been in the movies. 3 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: Reveal hidden contents it's going to be Clea. She's in the leaks with Wanda and Strange and the ending of MoM set her and Strange up for this role. We'll definitely see the red version right before the announcement. I've heard at SDCC, they plan on announcing the next batch of confirmed characters. Hide contents I think he's in his Infinity War mode where he knows this route is the only one that will save the universe, hence his "betrayal." Although I think we should also remember that MoM established that in pretty much every universe, he goes power hungry and turns bad. The Illuminati said he was a greater threat to the multiverse than Wanda, which makes sense since all you have to do is give Wanda her kids and she's fine. We saw her variants and they weren't a threat, unlike Strange who we've seen multiple variants of and they're pretty much all bad apples. I don't agree with him being more heroic and principled either. Even in MoM, Wanda calls out his hypocrisy that everything he got mad at her for doing, he does himself and he still has the gall to consider himself a hero. My guess is they announce Wanda, maybe the other witches and/or Spoiler strange , and then show off an extended version of the X-mansion fight from the trailer that'll reveal Spoiler Deadpool and maybe some more X-men, and that'll be it maybe alongside some minor ones. While Wanda being the red witch is obvious, the others are less so and I imagine the masks are there for a reason. Marvel also seems determined to keep the first spoiler character I mentioned a secret. Besides those, unless there are surprises in store no leaker has clocked, I'm not even sure who they would announce. There's only two other characters I can think of that haven't been officially confirmed, and given their role in the movie I think it would be really bad marketing to announce them. 1 hour ago, Kaijumeister said: I’m really itching to see the Doomsday sets in HQ. Hopefully by the end of this weekend! All things considered, the Sentinel Battle seems like it will be the strongest set of the lot. I think the Avengerz Tower looks a lot worse than it actually will be because of the image quality of the leaks. Or perhaps I’m coping. Agreed about the sentinel, though even then I think the price is a bit rough and the figure selection should have been larger. I say this as the #1 thunderbolts fan, I think you might be coping. I just don't think you can have the tower and spires in a build that short without it coming out horribly squashed looking. (But you could have at least made them the right color) 2 hours ago, brickbride said: @JeanGreyForeverIf I remember correctly we've talked about this before, but I still strongly disagree with what you've written about Strange. For one thing, what do you mean all variants of him in MoM turn out to be power-hungry bad apples? Sure there's Evil Strange in his destroyed Sanctum but that only serves to illustrate that the others aren't, in fact, evil. (There's probably also a selfless version of Wanda around somewhere given a multiverse with infinite possibilities. We just haven't met her.) The one who befriended America (and ended up a zombie) wasn't evil. The one from the Illuminati universe made a catastrophic error and was deeply sorry for it, enough to not even protest his own execution. I'd hardly call that evil. And wouldn't Wanda's plan of stealing herself some children from another universe also have led to an incursion, and thus the death of trillions? And Strange is the one who stopped her! So I'm not sure how your takeaway from all that is that Strange is more evil than Wanda. I agree that he may be more of a threat (though the person who said so was hardly unbiased) because like you've said, all Wanda cares about is herself whereas Strange takes a much broader perspective; also Strange has a capacity for long-term planning, i.e. the whole "one possibility in millions" thing, that we haven't really seen from Wanda. But the mere fact that Strange was still, last we saw, Master of his Sanctum and even (if somewhat reluctantly) acknowledging the authority of Sorcerer Supreme Wong testifies to the fact that he's not an evil, power-hungry maniac. Basically, Wanda and Strange are a lot alike in that they're both extremists who'll do anything in order to reach their goals. But there's two key differences IMO: 1) Strange's goals usually serve the public good (defeating Dormammu, negating Thanos' snap, stopping Wanda). He may be dickish, self-aggrandizing, and/or ruthless in achieving them, and he tolerates a lot of pain and suffering in the cause of them, but there's usually a net positive for the public (catastrophic incursions notwithstanding) and he doesn't exempt himself from the necessary pain and suffering either (being tortured like that by Dormammu can hardly have been fun). Wanda's goals, meanwhile, usually don't benefit anyone but herself (holding an entire town hostage and traumatizing untold people in order to play happy families with her dead husband and imaginary children, torturing a child in order to steal someone's children, killing a shitload of Kamar-Taj wizards just for protecting America) and come with plenty of pain and suffering solely for others, often innocent bystanders. 2) Strange's inability to find anything wrong with his plans seems to mainly stem from the fact that he's a very cold, logic-driven person. Why are other people so squeamish about stuff like dreamwalking into your own dead doppelganger's body in order to create a zombie? It makes perfect sense if you think about it! Wanda, meanwhile, is a very emotional person and knows perfectly well what she inflicts on others, she just doesn't care. I.e. she suffered the loss of her children, and her idea of dealing with that was putting another universe's Wanda through exactly the same thing for her own gain. I actually think that even Sylvie is less evil than Wanda; she killed a shitload of TVA agents but they were hunting her, and she's always been vocal about people in other, non-sacred timelines deserving to live their lives, too. Though she is still selfish and impulsive, i.e. about killing Him Who Remains to absolutely no-one's gain just because she felt like it. But overall she's more reasonable than Wanda, accepting whatever peace she can find instead of Wanda's "I deserve all the nice things and I don't care who suffers for it" mentality. Yeah exactly. As for the infamous "that doesn't seem fair" line, the worst things Strange has done are distracted driving and irresponsibly bringing a mouthy kid to a spell that evidently required immense concentration- the latter of which he was doing to help said kid. Wanda held a whole town of innocent people hostage because she felt grief, and then proceeded to murder a massive amount of heroes and innocent people while hunting an innocent child because she wanted to kidnap real versions of her hallucinated children from another universe's wanda. Strange is a hero who can be cold in his pursuit of the greater good, wanda turns into a villain because she's so driven by personal longing that she's willing to hurt and kill innocents to get what she wants for herself. She starts sympathetic- she's lost more than most other heroes (off the top of my head MCU spider-man has had it worse as of NWH since he doesn't even have friends or fellow heroes to go to at the end of that movie. Thor and Daredevil have also suffered similar loss to Wanda without turning evil)- but she inarguably becomes a villain. You can say it's bad writing to make her a villain, but when you reach the point that she's slaughtering people so she can steal children, it's kind of hard to argue.... This is pretty nerdy but I suppose if anyone would find it interesting it'd be here- I wrote a treatment for a Midnight Sons movie that was focused around bringing wanda back (because without a conduit for Chaos Magic forces like Cython were rising) and I had a whole monologue in it from strange about how he blamed himself for not trying to reach out to wanda sooner. But even in that I felt like I was reaching, since... yeah. She murders a bunch of people because she wants to kidnap a child and use her to kidnap two more children. Not exactly for the greater good. Quote
Scarilian Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Guessing at this point that the set in January is Thor, Doctor Doom and the Green Latverian Witch. Unless we get Doombots that's the closest I could see to a leaker thinking it was a female Doctor Doom. I guess different Latverian Witch in each set for a potential Wave 2 would vary it more than having Doctor Doom repeats, but not sold on how they look. 47 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: My guess is they announce Most likely scenario is that it's primarily focused on Avengers: Doomsday and teasing post-Secret Wars stuff that'll have to start filming in 2027. Ideally: Spoiler Avengers Doomsday trailer 2 Tom Hiddleston, Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans and more walk on stage thanking everyone for sticking with them and saying how Doomsday/Secret Wars are their thank you to the fans. Show off a clip of the Sentinel scene Tease that there will be another Avengers: Doomsday announcement later this year (Chair Stream Part 2?) Then move onto the future films 2028 movies set for May, July and December May revealed as Armor Wars with War Machine, Rescue and Iron Heart July revealed as Black Panther 3 December revealed as Doctor Strange: Midnight Sons with concept art shown featuring Blade 2029 will see the debut the X-Men in both an ensemble and solo film As the panel ends Robert Downey Jr. walks back on stage and makes a remark about changing the title of one of the films Feige and Downey walk off stage as it fades to black, the screen flickers and the title Armor Wars changes to 'Iron Man: Armor Wars' It'd break the internet completely Quote
Agent Kallus Posted July 25 Posted July 25 *Bernie Sanders* : I am once again asking for your support (aka: a summary of what we know about the 2027 sets ) 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: distracted driving Evilest MCU character... Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted July 25 Posted July 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Agent Kallus said: *Bernie Sanders* : I am once again asking for your support (aka: a summary of what we know about the 2027 sets ) Evilest MCU character... Alright, let's do this one more time: 67001 Spider-Man vs Demo-Goblin (82 pcs, likely $10): Spider-Man, Demo Goblin 67002 Scarlet Spider Mech (146 pieces, likely $15): Scarlet Spider, Lasher 67003 Thor vs Doom Mechs (237 pieces, likely $30): Thor, Doctor Doom, "female doom" likely Latverian Witch 67004 Spider-Man vs Green Goblin (240 pieces, likely $25, confirmed raimi based): Spider-Man, Raimi Green Goblin, Mary Jane 67005 Strange Supreme's Sanctum (814 pieces, likely $110 like the other modulars): Strange Supreme, Spider-Man, Zombie Thor/Iron Man/Wanda/Namor 67006 Marvel Skyline (1261 pieces, probably $100-130): Galactus minifigure, microfigures of Human Torch, Spider-Man, Iron Man, and Silver Surfer. Build includes Daily Bugle, Oscorp, Avengers Tower, the Baxter Building, Sanctum Sanctorum, the Fisk Tower, X-mansion and *possibly* the Roxxan Tower. Avengers Tower, Sanctum Sanctorum, and Baxter Building are the MCU designs, Bugle is the lego design. 67022 Spider-Man Buildable Logo (480 pieces, likely $40-60): Raimi Symbiote Spider-Man 67023 Jeff the Land Shark (495 pieces, likely $60-70) That old breaking bad meme where it's something like "Who was worse: Walter White (declined to go Go-Karting with Jesse) or Gus Fring (Made Lyle stay late at the restaurant)?" 2 hours ago, Scarilian said: Guessing at this point that the set in January is Thor, Doctor Doom and the Green Latverian Witch. Unless we get Doombots that's the closest I could see to a leaker thinking it was a female Doctor Doom. I guess different Latverian Witch in each set for a potential Wave 2 would vary it more than having Doctor Doom repeats, but not sold on how they look. Most likely scenario is that it's primarily focused on Avengers: Doomsday and teasing post-Secret Wars stuff that'll have to start filming in 2027. Ideally: Hide contents Avengers Doomsday trailer 2 Tom Hiddleston, Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans and more walk on stage thanking everyone for sticking with them and saying how Doomsday/Secret Wars are their thank you to the fans. Show off a clip of the Sentinel scene Tease that there will be another Avengers: Doomsday announcement later this year (Chair Stream Part 2?) Then move onto the future films 2028 movies set for May, July and December May revealed as Armor Wars with War Machine, Rescue and Iron Heart July revealed as Black Panther 3 December revealed as Doctor Strange: Midnight Sons with concept art shown featuring Blade 2029 will see the debut the X-Men in both an ensemble and solo film As the panel ends Robert Downey Jr. walks back on stage and makes a remark about changing the title of one of the films Feige and Downey walk off stage as it fades to black, the screen flickers and the title Armor Wars changes to 'Iron Man: Armor Wars' It'd break the internet completely I mean I agree with the general thing that it'll be mainly doomsday and post-secret wars projects, and that there'll be a big X-focus. Spoiler There MIGHT be a trailer two, but I think an exclusive clip is more likely. Even for an exclusive trailer, it feels really weird to just do a second trailer less than a week after the first. I think they aren't going to officially say anything about Hugh Jackman in doomsday, and I think they'll make deadpool the big (re) announcement of the panel. Possibly alongside a Deadpool 4/Deadpool and Wolverine 2. I don't think we get another chair stream, there just aren't enough people left. I agree Black Panther 3 is all but confirmed and think Midnight Sons is also very likely. Hopefully the universe reset means we get a more accurate Moon Knight, not that we'd know in this panel. I don't think armor wars happens and especially don't think they would announce RDJ is in it until at the very least after Doomsday. I think we'll see an X-men film or two like you say alongside the cast announcement with a very suspicious lack of Jean Grey. I do wonder who the solo character would be though, I don't think marvel would be confident yet that anyone but wolverine could carry a film. Maybe it'll be X-men and X-force, or even X-men Blue and X-men Gold. OH! And Thunderbolts 2! I was shocked to see that leak claiming there'd be a thunderbolts two, but apprently it's coming and god knows I'm happy to hear it. Edited July 25 by Mandalorianknight Quote
JeanGreyForever Posted July 25 Posted July 25 On 7/23/2026 at 4:50 PM, Swordy said: I am Vegetable. I am the Nitro Pepsi. I am… Swordy. (To be fair, without your raving over John Walker's character I probably wouldn't love the character like I do now. So it becomes a symbiotic circle between the Gungans and the Naboo.) Strangely I'm comfortable with the $100 price tag, but I definitely agree that more could've been included. Two of the figs in the leaked image appear to be reuses. That said, I recall the previous Final Battle sets having a similar number of new prints (4 for Civil War and 6 for Endgame). All of them up until now have had inaccurate reuses for the pure sake of "budget", and maybe one or two new figures at best, so this one not having only one slight inaccuracy and four brand new figs is certainly plus. AND—unless my youthful eyes and those spare pixels deceive me—BUCKY'S BACK TO THE BLACK HAIR AND THAT UGLY FACE PRINT. I still hold out hope we'll see those teams completed next March, in which case I'd rather a deluxe Doom and everyone, however late they show up. I realize I may be too optimistic, though. Right, he shouldn't. …yet he does. Perhaps Doom shows some telepathic powers? Are there any mind-readers on the Avengers whom I'm forgetting? Other than the obvious rule of cool, why? The most interesting part of the Wolverine character has been Hugh Jackman for me. I'd prefer to see the character evolve outside of one actor, but I understand why they wouldn't. I'd say the only reason Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart have stuck around in public consciousness is moreso due to their other iconic roles (Gandalf and Picard, respectively) than those performances. (In all fairness, Patrick Stewart was born to play Charles Xavier. I suppose I disagree that Ian McKellan is 100% Magneto, although I admit I only know that version from DoFP.) I wasn't big on the Evan Peters as Quicksilver, so I don't feel so bad that he won't make it around. I fully see your point that Feige would only bring back actor with whom he has a relationship; my argument is that Fassbender sold the character onscreen each time, so he'd be my personal choice. I only say McAvoy since him and Fassbender already have an established chemistry (not to mention they're old enough to be distinct from a 20s-age cast but young enough to have longevity), but otherwise I feel not as strong about him. I was shocked to learn how hated Dark Phoenix is after first watching it. I won't argue it's a great film but I enjoyed it thoroughly. As for the X-Trilogy, you may have convinced me… I am interested in the Wolverine movies, so I'd definitely give that one a watch too. I have heard of the Rogue Cut; it's not available on Disney+ so I haven't given it a watch yet, and like you said it'd appeal moreso to the 2000s X-Men fan. I have a hairy memory of seeing the full movie on YouTube, so perhaps that'll be the route I take. Based off the most recent leak, it seems that LEGO went for the brighter colour scheme this time. I'm glad since that works perfectly for most fans. Interesting and disappointing for comic/X-Men '97 fans (of which I'm one). There are several alternate hair options for Nightcrawler (such as one from Dreamzzz) which may work for a quick fix, but you're right that it won't be perfect. I hadn't realized that neither in the comics have scales; goes to show how influential those films were, lol. Wolverine is in the same boat as Iron Man and Captain America, where I think they're worried that any new actor would be instantly rejected by audiences. My guess is also that in a universe where the Raimi movies did not end with SM3, the MCU would have incorporated Tobey's Spider-Man rather than rebooting to create a new one. But because there already had been a rebooted Spider-Man, with Andrew, the MCU felt it was more acceptable to get away with rebooting him again since audiences had shown a willingness to accept more than one actor as Spider-Man. It's still new territory for Wolverine, Cap, an Iron Man. If you've only seen Ian McKellen's Magneto in DOFP, that probably explains the disconnect for you. He's not given much to do there especially as that's the first and only time we see his version of the character on the side of good so he's rather whitewashed. He's much more villainous in the original trilogy and has a much bigger role there. From what I remember of the screentime of characters in the trilogy, Wolverine was clearly #1, while Jean and Magneto were more or less tied as #2 for screentime. Magneto has maybe 15 seconds more. DOFP focused mostly on the younger version of the character played by Fassbender. And I said in a previous post, those rebooted films basically vacillated between making Magneto a hero --> anti-hero --> villain, over and over, sometimes multiple times in the same movie, whereas Ian's Magneto is always in full villain mode like the classic incarnation of the character from the comics. Depending on how you like Magneto characterized, that could be a factor in if you'll like Ian's Magneto or not. I never liked the Evan Peters Quicksilver. He had a cool power scene, which is what made him popular, but he had nothing in common with the original Quicksilver outside of super speed. It was basically a brand-new character. The Aaron Taylor-Johnson version from the MCU was much more comic accurate, but sadly they never brought him back. Technically speaking, the upcoming X-Men reboot could have been used to bring back Fassbender and James McAvoy but it seems that, like with Spider-Man, the MCU wants to do a clean reboot with their own portrayals. With Wolverine and Deadpool being the only exceptions who are carried over. The casting choices for Magneto and Xavier do show they're leaning on the younger side, much younger than Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart when they begun. Since you enjoyed Hugh's Wolverine, then you'll probably enjoy the original trilogy since he's more or less the main character. Same with his solo movies, except Origins is really garbage and never gets referenced ever again. It has a lot of continuity errors too. The Wolverine (2013) is a sequel to X-Men: The Last Stand, last movie of the trilogy, and segues directly to DOFP. If you consider DOFP to be X-Men 4, then The Wolverine would be X-Men 3.5 basically. Since you enjoyed Dark Phoenix, I'm curious what you'll feel about X-Men: The Last Stand. Both movies adapted The Dark Phoenix Saga and both of them have the same screenwriter, so I wonder which one you'd end up preferring especially since you liked Dark Phoenix which is infamous. The Last Stand is more like a typical summer blockbuster flick. For The Rogue Cut, all the added scenes are set in the future timeline so you might be able to find them on YouTube. The Gambit hairpiece, in black, is also a popular choice for Nightcrawler minifigs. Quote
JeanGreyForever Posted July 25 Posted July 25 7 hours ago, brickbride said: @JeanGreyForeverIf I remember correctly we've talked about this before, but I still strongly disagree with what you've written about Strange. For one thing, what do you mean all variants of him in MoM turn out to be power-hungry bad apples? Sure there's Evil Strange in his destroyed Sanctum but that only serves to illustrate that the others aren't, in fact, evil. (There's probably also a selfless version of Wanda around somewhere given a multiverse with infinite possibilities. We just haven't met her.) The one who befriended America (and ended up a zombie) wasn't evil. The one from the Illuminati universe made a catastrophic error and was deeply sorry for it, enough to not even protest his own execution. I'd hardly call that evil. And wouldn't Wanda's plan of stealing herself some children from another universe also have led to an incursion, and thus the death of trillions? And Strange is the one who stopped her! So I'm not sure how your takeaway from all that is that Strange is more evil than Wanda. I agree that he may be more of a threat (though the person who said so was hardly unbiased) because like you've said, all Wanda cares about is herself whereas Strange takes a much broader perspective; also Strange has a capacity for long-term planning, i.e. the whole "one possibility in millions" thing, that we haven't really seen from Wanda. But the mere fact that Strange was still, last we saw, Master of his Sanctum and even (if somewhat reluctantly) acknowledging the authority of Sorcerer Supreme Wong testifies to the fact that he's not an evil, power-hungry maniac. Basically, Wanda and Strange are a lot alike in that they're both extremists who'll do anything in order to reach their goals. But there's two key differences IMO: 1) Strange's goals usually serve the public good (defeating Dormammu, negating Thanos' snap, stopping Wanda). He may be dickish, self-aggrandizing, and/or ruthless in achieving them, and he tolerates a lot of pain and suffering in the cause of them, but there's usually a net positive for the public (catastrophic incursions notwithstanding) and he doesn't exempt himself from the necessary pain and suffering either (being tortured like that by Dormammu can hardly have been fun). Wanda's goals, meanwhile, usually don't benefit anyone but herself (holding an entire town hostage and traumatizing untold people in order to play happy families with her dead husband and imaginary children, torturing a child in order to steal someone's children, killing a shitload of Kamar-Taj wizards just for protecting America) and come with plenty of pain and suffering solely for others, often innocent bystanders. 2) Strange's inability to find anything wrong with his plans seems to mainly stem from the fact that he's a very cold, logic-driven person. Why are other people so squeamish about stuff like dreamwalking into your own dead doppelganger's body in order to create a zombie? It makes perfect sense if you think about it! Wanda, meanwhile, is a very emotional person and knows perfectly well what she inflicts on others, she just doesn't care. I.e. she suffered the loss of her children, and her idea of dealing with that was putting another universe's Wanda through exactly the same thing for her own gain. I actually think that even Sylvie is less evil than Wanda; she killed a shitload of TVA agents but they were hunting her, and she's always been vocal about people in other, non-sacred timelines deserving to live their lives, too. Though she is still selfish and impulsive, i.e. about killing Him Who Remains to absolutely no-one's gain just because she felt like it. But overall she's more reasonable than Wanda, accepting whatever peace she can find instead of Wanda's "I deserve all the nice things and I don't care who suffers for it" mentality. We have lol. So there's the third-eye Strange who destroyed his Sanctum who's evil, as you said. There's the Illuminati Strange who was so bad that he had to be executed by an entire team of heroes. You said he can't be so bad because he left himself be killed, but by that logic, our 616 Wanda does the same thing. She realizes the error of her ways after she sees her kids react to her and lets herself die at the end. If he's good by that reasoning of yours, so is 616 Wanda. Xavier and the Illuminati also confirm that every version of Strange they've ever encountered is a power-hungry megalomaniac who is always the biggest threat to the multiverse. That's multiple credible sources confirming what I'm reiterating. You said the Zombie Strange who tries to kill America at the beginning isn't bad, but he was willing to kill a child for the greater good. I just can't imagine Steve Rogers, Peter Parker, or Sue Storm doing that. In fact, the entire FF movie is about how the team won't sacrifice their child, not even to save the world. They're not characterized as villains in that. If Strange came to their universe and killed baby Franklin, are we supposed to applaud him for doing what the FF didn't do? If 616 Wanda is deemed bad by you for trying to kill America, which she doesn't actually end up doing, then I don't see how 616 Strange is any better for doing the exact same thing. You can justify his motivation but that's such a slippery slope. If killing one child is permissible for the greater good one day, what's to stop someone from saying killing all children is for the greater good the next day. Is Thanos a hero for snapping half the universe, allegedly for the greater good? He can only get to that point by starting with killing one person first, which is what Zombie Strange wanted to do and I doubt that would have been the end of it for him. Finally, there's What If? Doctor Strange. I don't remember if you said you saw that show or not but in S1-2 (I never saw S3 so I can't speak about that), the big bad of the show is Doctor Strange. Another variant who goes crazy from being unable to save Rachel McAdams' character and he becomes a multiversal threat forcing the creation of a multiversal Avengers team just to stop him. He's actually way worse than even Wanda in this show. So over and over, the MCU has shown that every Strange inevitably goes bad. Even 616 Strange isn't exempt to this since we see him exhibiting the third eye at the end of MoM, showing that he's been corrupted. In contrast, we only see two Wandas. Only 616 Wanda is evil. The Wanda with the kids is a normal mother who isn't a danger to anyone. There's a reason the Illuminati aren't worried about her at all. So one evil Wanda versus 4 evil Stranges (third eye Strange, Zombie Strange, Illuminati Strange, What If? Strange), plus our 616 Strange on the same inevitable path as proven by the ending of MoM with him also gaining a third eye, plus the Illuminati confirming that every other Strange they've encountered is so bad that he has to be put down. Strange complains that Wanda has corrupted herself by dreamwalking using the Darkhold. Fine, that's true. But then he uses that same techinque to fight Wanda at the end, taking over his variant's Zombie body. He knows fully well this will corrupt him but he does so anyway and Wanda even calls him out on this and how it's apparently fine if he does it, but not when she does it. Even if you claim his motivation is pure, the damage is done because that action shows he was corrupted with the third eye at the end. That's why I find him very hypocritical. Incursions weren't part of the plot when MoM came out but without giving leaks, if we do factor that in, then plenty of characters from Doomsday should be classified as evil as well. Spoiler Looking at you Steve and Peggy. You said the Illuminati were biased, but I'd say they're informed since they have been keeping tabs on the multiverse and have seen the patterns that every Strange is a menace. Not every Wanda. You said he's a master of long-term planning but that was only in Infinity War when he was Sorcerer Supreme and could look that far into the future. He's not Sorcerer Supreme anymore. And if you look at him in that What If? show, that same ability is what makes him go mad and crazy since he can't ever save Rachel McAdams. You bring up Wanda holding a whole town hostage, but she does end up releasing them at the end after she's snapped out of her illusion. She does repent before being corrupted by the Darkhold and dreamwalking, which is exactly what we know has happened to Strange as well. You asked why people are squeamish about Strange dreamwalking into his dead variant's zombie body. The issue wasn't him taking over a dead body, it's that he himself is the first to claim this ability is forbidden and a dark ability. He lectures Wanda on this but then exposes himself as a hypocrite by doing the same exact thing. We know Wanda was corrupted by this power, which Strange knows too, yet he lets himself be corrupted and we have proof with the third eye that the damage is done. He's even worse than Wanda then because he had the full knowledge and context, he's given a case example with Wanda, but he does so anyway because hubris (his biggest flaw from day 1) makes him think he'll somehow be the exception. This too, while not even being Sorcerer Supreme. Wanda is very easy to pacify. All she wants is her family. That's why most of her variants, we're told, aren't dangerous. You said, in your first paragraph, that there must be a good Wanda in the multiverse that we haven't seen, but the Illuminati Wanda with the kids is literally proof of that. So we have seen her, the only other Wanda we've seen! She's not some mythological creature, as we have living proof of her existence. But enough is never enough for Strange. There will always be some "threat" and he'll always go further and further to stop that threat, before inevitably becoming as bad if not worse. The exact same path 616 Strange is on. That's why every Strange is basically doomed, as confirmed by the Illuminati, because hubris is his fatal flaw. 4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Besides those, unless there are surprises in store no leaker has clocked, I'm not even sure who they would announce. There's only two other characters I can think of that haven't been officially confirmed, and given their role in the movie I think it would be really bad marketing to announce them. Yeah exactly. As for the infamous "that doesn't seem fair" line, the worst things Strange has done are distracted driving and irresponsibly bringing a mouthy kid to a spell that evidently required immense concentration- the latter of which he was doing to help said kid. Wanda held a whole town of innocent people hostage because she felt grief, and then proceeded to murder a massive amount of heroes and innocent people while hunting an innocent child because she wanted to kidnap real versions of her hallucinated children from another universe's wanda. Strange is a hero who can be cold in his pursuit of the greater good, wanda turns into a villain because she's so driven by personal longing that she's willing to hurt and kill innocents to get what she wants for herself. She starts sympathetic- she's lost more than most other heroes (off the top of my head MCU spider-man has had it worse as of NWH since he doesn't even have friends or fellow heroes to go to at the end of that movie. Thor and Daredevil have also suffered similar loss to Wanda without turning evil)- but she inarguably becomes a villain. You can say it's bad writing to make her a villain, but when you reach the point that she's slaughtering people so she can steal children, it's kind of hard to argue.... This is pretty nerdy but I suppose if anyone would find it interesting it'd be here- I wrote a treatment for a Midnight Sons movie that was focused around bringing wanda back (because without a conduit for Chaos Magic forces like Cython were rising) and I had a whole monologue in it from strange about how he blamed himself for not trying to reach out to wanda sooner. But even in that I felt like I was reaching, since... yeah. She murders a bunch of people because she wants to kidnap a child and use her to kidnap two more children. Not exactly for the greater good. There were always going to be way more than 27 characters in the movie if you count all the minor characters. Monica is in the FoX-Men Universe. I don't think she's part of that 27 cast list so she can be confirmed since we know we'll end up seeing her. I can't imagine America Chavez isn't in the movie, even if her part was probably cut down as much as possible. Spoiler I think Cassie Lang has been confirmed to show up. We know the Young Avengers are in SW so maybe some of them will be peppered in here, but Cassie is likely because of Ant-Man. There's also probably a lot of cameos from characters who we haven't heard of yet. One leak just said that Jean and Storm are dead from sacrificing themselves to stop incursions. That orange flash Xavier reacts to in the trailer, Scott unleashing his optic blast, all of that will probably be a flashback to show Jean sacrificing herself. The X-Men confirmed in the cast list are the survivors, with only Wolverine not officially confirmed yet. I imagine we'll see some surprise cameos from the X-Men who die, hence the scattered roster in the final movie. All the Raimi Spider-Man villains as well since they haven't been confirmed. Wouldn't be shocked if we see Kirsten Dunst's MJ briefly before Tobey goes into action. If not Doomsday, we know SW will end with all the timelines restored so we'll probably see MJ with Tobey in their happy ending...maybe with Mayday. The Asgardians have also been confirmed to show up at the end to help Thor, characters like Sif and Jane Foster. So there's still a lot of people they can confirm. The question is, will they go with the big characters or will they just confirm the minor ones. Quote
brickbride Posted July 25 Posted July 25 (edited) @JeanGreyForeverYou're twisting a lot of what I've said. I.e. I didn't mean that people should be less squeamish about Strange's methods, just that it looks that way to Strange because he doesn't understand emotions well. The Strange who America befriended also never suggested killing her (by the time the zombie version of him did it was our Strange in the driver's seat); as far as we were shown he was completely good. And the Illuminati Strange let himself be executed for the public good whereas Wanda only abandoned her plans because she didn't want to be throught a villain by her children. (That's a pattern with her; she likes to act like a villain but doesn't want to be called out. Same with the town full of hostages - she expected everyone there to love her despite her actions and when she found out that they didn't she was shocked into letting them go.) And it's perfectly possible for a character to be very evil AND to be easily pacified by being given (someone else's) children. Galactus would have left the Earth alone if the F4 had given him baby Franklin but are we supposed to consider him a good guy for that? I'm not familiar with the What If? Strange but if he's a power-hungry maniac it's because our version's NOT; i.e. there wouldn't be a "What if Wanda went on murder and terror sprees everytime she felt grief?" episode because that's exactly what happens in our universe already. So I think we'll have to agree to disagree on our opinions of Wanda and Strange. Again. ;-) 9 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said: Reveal hidden contents it's going to be Clea. She's in the leaks with Wanda and Strange and the ending of MoM set her and Strange up for this role. Not a surprise since even without being in the trailer, she was trending and most of the comments were asking about her. We'll definitely see the red version right before the announcement. I, too, expect that we'll eventually end up with a red witch costume. But @Mandalorianknightsaid that there were Spoiler at least 4 witches. And for some leaker to have mistaken a witch in a set for a "female Doom" it ought to have been the green version. So I think each version of the costume is a real one for a character. Green could be Sylvie, as that colour is strongly associated with Loki. Like I've said, purple is strongly associated with Agatha (she even calls her power "my purple" at some point) but she's a ghost at the moment so IDK. Edited July 25 by brickbride Quote
Kaijumeister Posted July 25 Author Posted July 25 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Alright, let's do this one more time: You forgot the most important one: And a so-so Buildable Popsicle (includes minifigures of all the missing characters from the initial Doomsday wave). I agree I probably am coping around Avengerz Tower, difficult to translate its new look into a playscale set. That Raimi Spider-Man vs. Green Goblin is my most anticipated set of the winter wave, especially as it’s confirmed GG will have a new helmet piece. I hope Spidey includes some much needed battle damage too to differentiate him from the existing sets with him. Edited July 25 by Kaijumeister Quote
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