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I'd rather expect a new system in 2026, they can still release a car or a tracked vehicle with the integrated hub next year.

If we had proof that TLG was truly building a versatile system and not just making specialized components for the needs of specific sets, then I don't think any of us would be worried. Unfortunately, Powered Up's history to date has not been encouraging, and considering the sporadic availability of motors and hubs, the future doesn't look bright. I just noticed today that in addition to the XL Motor and the Simple Medium Linear Motor, the Technic hub is also marked as retired. Is this the usual game they play, or is it really gone? Because if it really has been retired, then this move supports more our theories about downsizing Powered Up to phase out the system rather than a promising expansion with specialized parts.

I think the new hub is still part of the Powered Up ecosystem, these should be the known components squeezed in a single package, using the Control+ app. Fun fact - the connector used in all Powered Up / Control+ sets first appeared in WeDo 2.0 in 2016, and that hub had a rechargeable battery running at 3.7V. What if LEGO made a full circle to end the system? The first "real" Powered Up sets were the trains introduced in 2018, apart from the Batmobile. City trains are released in 4 year cycles, I would expect a brand new electronic system being released in 2026 with a new set of trains.

Or if we think about it, this can be a way to greatly reduce the stock of PU hardware in preparation for a new system. With this integrated drive base, separate hubs, motors and lights are no longer needed, there is only one unit to produce and sell. Last year we were supposed to get a single RC set (Audi), the Liebherr was pushed from 2022. This year, at least according to the rumors, 42176 will be the only RC set. If they use this base for e.g. two sets in the following two years (one car, one tracked vehicle), they can remove all other PU components from the inventory. The availability of these parts is already very random, some are shown as retired in certain regions, others just disappear from time to time.

This is quite different though. This time there are several documents about the battery and hub published on lego.com under "Product 42176", I'd trust that very much. Actually apart from the set number, we don't know yet for sure if it's a Porsche or not, but we certainly know what battery and hub it'll contain :)

The "fastest" claim has not been confirmed, so far it only comes from leakers. I highly doubt it's the fastest of all LEGO RC cars, maybe the fastest Control+ set. That is not very hard to achieve, it just has to beat the 42124 Off-Road Buggy. The 3.6V battery doesn't help with that though, but with the 2 integrated motors it's doable, but playtime will certainly suffer. Yes we do know, @Akbalder had a very nice find with the good quality photos! As I see we have 3 integrated motors, and apparently 6 integrated lights as well! This explains how the set can have lights without external ports on the hub.

There is still a (small) chance for this, although the remote control would then probably use standard AA/AAA batteries :)

That "fastest remote-controlled LEGO set of all time" is a very interesting statement, especially because the set seems to contain a brand new rechargeable battery, 3.6V & 2100 mAh. It will sit in a new integrated hub which contains 3 motors, similar to the Boost hub. Here's a video with all the details I could find:

I really hope they don't reuse the exact same transmission, otherwise we'll be in for another endless flood of complaints about clicking noises... Kind of fits in with the Land Rover experience, but people expect more from German engineering

That's why I wrote cars and motorcycles... I assumed the emphasis was on the fact that the vehicle is licensed, not the exact type :) Considering the rumored price point, it still looks more like a new iteration of the Defender's design than the Ford Raptor, which had half as many parts and was half as expensive.

Considering the last years, we had several licensed car and motorcycle models introducing new parts and functions. Just a few examples from the top of my head: The orange wave selector was introduced in the Bugatti Chiron The 6x6 Volvo Articulated Hauler was the first with an RC gearbox The Zetros was the first to have RC lockable differentials New gearbox parts in the Yamaha motorcycle New engine parts in the Kawasaki motorcycle

Wow, it's a great effort, well done!

Well, in that color the set would literally jump off the shelves as you see it

Or we have the great and nice looking Neon Yellow to use!

Lee was pointing to the model he designed, the 42178 Surface Space Loader, and the "new small beam" should be this one. Although for us it first appeared in 42168, but that's also a 2024 set so it wasn't out yet when this video was recorded back in September 2023. By the way, I saw a bit of confusion about the designer of the VTOL - it is Uwe Wabra. Lee Magpili designed 42178, and Samuel Tacchi was the designer of 42180. And here is my review of this amazingly swoooooshable set: