zephyr1934 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 Motorizing the tram? Sounds like a job for a circuit cube Quote
Man with a hat Posted April 24 Posted April 24 17 hours ago, Murdoch17 said: Mighty want to remove that link @Man with a hat... Leaked images and links to leaks are forbidden on EB! Do not worry, I know the rules, but these are officially released images, so no leaks. Quote
Murdoch17 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 7 hours ago, Man with a hat said: Do not worry, I know the rules, but these are officially released images, so no leaks. Oh... Apologies then. Quote
Vilhelm22 Posted April 27 Author Posted April 27 On 4/24/2026 at 3:13 AM, zephyr1934 said: Motorizing the tram? Sounds like a job for a circuit cube Might be, or I think you can fit a train motor in there actually. Circuit cubes are great but my goodness they're loud! Any idea based on previous set releases when we're likely to find out prices in other currencies? Quote
Murdoch17 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, Vilhelm22 said: Might be, or I think you can fit a train motor in there actually. Circuit cubes are great but my goodness they're loud! Any idea based on previous set releases when we're likely to find out prices in other currencies? RE Prices: We'll probably know them when they're officially revealed, most likely sometime next month @Vilhelm22. Also, I'd bet that the beach tram can't be motorized without HEAVY modifications, like the Downtown Streetcar before it. It's probably doable, but not without substantial renovation / a complete frame rework, as the wheels seem to be too far apart to make it work with a PU / PF/ 9v motor block... but that's just my guess. EDIT: Looking back over the pictures, this thing has ~10 stud between the wheels (or more if you count to the wheel centers) Will this even go through curves like that? How about switches? I have trouble sometimes with eight or nine studs between axles, so I'm guessing the answer is no. Edited April 27 by Murdoch17 Quote
legotownlinz Posted April 28 Posted April 28 18 hours ago, Murdoch17 said: It's probably doable, but not without substantial renovation / a complete frame rework, as the wheels seem to be too far apart to make it work with a PU / PF/ 9v motor block... but that's just my guess. The winter village tram also has a long wheelbase, but it can still be motorized with Powered Up. Only one axle is driven by the motor, while the second axle runs freely. This setup isn’t ideal for traction, yet it provides more than enough power for a tram. Quote
Mr Hobbles Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Pictures of 60509 Harbour Freight Train are out there, and wow. Was not expecting that. Includes a small 4 wheeled shunter, two 2-axle flatbed freight cars with containers, a truck, and a container lifting vehicle thingy. Whats interesting is the official Powered UP suggestion on the back of the box is putting the Hub inside a container on one of the freight cars, which means you have a wire running between locomotive and freight car. Of course, this makes it also perfect for a classic 9v train motor. A perfect little 9v shunter. Been a while since we’ve had one of those! I really like this - the locomotive looks gorgeous. The freight cars are ok, nothing special, but I love the little shunter. That’s the standout. Quote
Mr Hobbles Posted May 2 Posted May 2 (edited) Brickset just released official pictures Edited May 2 by Mr Hobbles Quote
RedBrick1 Posted May 2 Posted May 2 A lovely set. The container cars look easy to replicate, so it will be fun seeing the different cargos MOD'ers come up with. Quote
Vilhelm22 Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 (edited) Very impressed with this set and the loco a first of its kind since CITY launched in 2004/5! I like that they’ve kept with the old 6x10 container design, used for the builders’ portacabin in 7905 Tower Crane and then freight containers since 7994 LEGO CITY Harbour in 2007. Those us with a big collection dating back 20+ years…the same containers still fit anywhere. With the new sets not containing a full loop I’m starting to think they should do a set that’s just a full track loop as right now it’s an expensive route for a circle through official sets. This year’s CITY train sets now cover 60506, 60508, 60509 and 60511. 60510 has been taken by the advent calendar, but I can’t help but wonder what 60507 might be. Seems like there’s absolutely no news on that set of any kind at all. Also hadn’t thought about this but given that we’re getting a new tram (albeit very different from the last), and 60423 Downtown Streetcar and Station now being 2 years old is it likely this will retire at the end of the year? Edited May 2 by Vilhelm22 Quote
zephyr1934 Posted May 2 Posted May 2 I was wondering where you put the batteries in the four wide shunter, the PU example on the back of the box shows that they go in the first container. That's a nice set Steam train shows the battery in the tender above the motor (I think someone probably said that already in the thread, but now we can show it...). And in classic city train form, looks like there aren't any doors on the passenger car It's a good day in Lego train land Oh, and nice use of the flowerpot for the stack on the steam train Quote
Satisfied Posted May 2 Posted May 2 I believe the days of fully motorized LEGO City passenger and freight trains that come with a complete track pack are basically over. If you look at the release window from 2006 to 2022, the passenger and freight train lineup is perfectly symmetrical, with set 60052 right at the center. Sets 3677 and 60098 are the standalone red train releases, and from this central point, two distinct generations of passenger and freight train layouts branch out before and after it respectively. It’s safe to say the classic motorized train era has come to an end. LEGO City has shifted its focus to other themes instead, such as Arctic and Police. Now we only get simplified three-car train sets that no longer include motors or tracks. The trains are essentially stripped down, and players have to purchase the motor components separately if they want power functions.Sets 60509 and 60511 represent the new generation of City passenger and freight trains. Quote
Mr Hobbles Posted May 2 Posted May 2 The thing is, I actually think this might be the perfect way forward for Lego trains. Think about it: 1. The trains are cheaper to buy 2. For kids who just want to push them along, that’s great 3. For kids/parents/AFOL’s who want to motorise them, that’s option is available (Note: Lego could do a better job selling them, maybe package them into a “Train Motorisation Kit”?) 4. For AFOL’s who already have a preferred motorisation method, these are trivial to motorise. Got a 9v motor? Add it! Already got PUP components? Great! I think even Power Functions is trivial to add! If this means it’s easier for Lego to rationalise continuing to make these, and lower cost overall for people to keep buying these, it makes it a win in my book. (I’m also really excited we have a new 4 wheeled shunter, we haven’t had one in over 20 years!) Quote
Thomasbricks Posted May 2 Posted May 2 5 hours ago, Vilhelm22 said: I like that they’ve kept with the old 6x10 container design, used for the builders’ portacabin in 7905 Tower Crane and then freight containers since 7994 LEGO CITY Harbour in 2007. Those us with a big collection dating back 20+ years…the same containers still fit anywhere. With the new sets not containing a full loop I’m starting to think they should do a set that’s just a full track loop as right now it’s an expensive route for a circle through official sets. This year’s CITY train sets now cover 60506, 60508, 60509 and 60511. 60510 has been taken by the advent calendar, but I can’t help but wonder what 60507 might be. Seems like there’s absolutely no news on that set of any kind at all. Also hadn’t thought about this but given that we’re getting a new tram (albeit very different from the last), and 60423 Downtown Streetcar and Station now being 2 years old is it likely this will retire at the end of the year? The standard for containers has only changed for the Maersk train and 7939.This standard is the oj but with space for the claw like structure on the side that was introduced with 60336.It makes some old containers slightly incompatible, but is easy to modify. I like that the fact that the container from the large construction set is compatible with the train as well. I'm not sure about it, but there was a canceled city police set. Might have been 60507. One thing that's missing from this wave is a harbour though... We have a freight train, we had coast guard, now we need a port to go alongside it (I also didn't have the opportunity to buy the previous ones). About the other sets, I think I read on Brick Fanatics that the sets we mentioned would indeed retire. 8 minutes ago, Mr Hobbles said: The thing is, I actually think this might be the perfect way forward for Lego trains. Think about it: 1. The trains are cheaper to buy 2. For kids who just want to push them along, that’s great 3. For kids/parents/AFOL’s who want to motorise them, that’s option is available (Note: Lego could do a better job selling them, maybe package them into a “Train Motorisation Kit”?) 4. For AFOL’s who already have a preferred motorisation method, these are trivial to motorise. Got a 9v motor? Add it! Already got PUP components? Great! I think even Power Functions is trivial to add! If this means it’s easier for Lego to rationalise continuing to make these, and lower cost overall for people to keep buying these, it makes it a win in my book. (I’m also really excited we have a new 4 wheeled shunter, we haven’t had one in over 20 years!) Agreed, but I think we will still large get passenger trains, I don't think trams are a good replacement. The themed sets feel like large freight trains, so yeh, we might not get one for a while. I hope we get a construction train though! If it is as good as the other sets for the line I'm in! Quote
Murdoch17 Posted May 2 Posted May 2 As I said on Brickset: I'm worried the beach tram and port train will not be able to go around curves or through switches. The wheels look awfully far apart, much farther than any other LEGO set before. Wheels start binding at like seven studs apart or more, so this could be an issue. Only time will tell, but I hope I'm wrong. Quote
Mr Hobbles Posted May 2 Posted May 2 28 minutes ago, Murdoch17 said: As I said on Brickset: I'm worried the beach tram and port train will not be able to go around curves or through switches. The wheels look awfully far apart, much farther than any other LEGO set before. Wheels start binding at like seven studs apart or more, so this could be an issue. Only time will tell, but I hope I'm wrong. The Harbour train should be fine, looks like 8 studs between the 3 stud train wheels holders, which is the same as has been on other containers wagons, ie. 60198. Also, the Harbour train is designed for operation - there is Powered UP instructions on the back of the box. The Seaside tram could be interesting. Are they wider than the Winter Village tram from a few years ago? It doesn’t say anywhere on the box that it’s Powered UP compatible, and so they may not have tested it on curved track. But, hopefully easily modified if it is an issue. Quote
samsz_3 Posted May 2 Posted May 2 It also looks like all three are back to the metal axle wheels rather than plastic pin wheels, after some back and fourth over the last two years Quote
Murdoch17 Posted May 2 Posted May 2 32 minutes ago, samsz_3 said: It also looks like all three are back to the metal axle wheels rather than plastic pin wheels, after some back and fourth over the last two years I think you are right, and all I can say is: Halleluiah! I'm sure all of us train builders are happy about that! Quote
Stereo Posted May 2 Posted May 2 6 hours ago, Mr Hobbles said: The Harbour train should be fine, looks like 8 studs between the 3 stud train wheels holders, which is the same as has been on other containers wagons, ie. 60198. Yeah, 8 between is fairly fine on my layout, it drags more than shorter cars but it's not derailing or anything. Quote
Murdoch17 Posted May 2 Posted May 2 32 minutes ago, Stereo said: Yeah, 8 between is fairly fine on my layout, it drags more than shorter cars but it's not derailing or anything. I count nine or ten studs on the beach tram between wheel centers, if my math is right. Hopefully I'm wrong. Quote
TeddytheSpoon Posted May 2 Posted May 2 That's a nice looking set! And it's a LEGO train in the best colour ever too. Yeah, this is definitely the year I get back into LEGO trains. Quote
Thomasbricks Posted May 2 Posted May 2 1 hour ago, Murdoch17 said: I count nine or ten studs on the beach tram between wheel centers, if my math is right. Hopefully I'm wrong. With the use of technic train wheels there might be some room for the wheels to slide a bit, making taking corners easier. Quote
Murdoch17 Posted May 2 Posted May 2 37 minutes ago, Thomasbricks said: With the use of technic train wheels there might be some room for the wheels to slide a bit, making taking corners easier. You may be onto something there! Quote
Selander Posted May 3 Posted May 3 (edited) Nice set, this new harbour train 60509. Brings back the design and level of playability to it's old cousins 4563 and 4564 from the 9V era. I also think the spacing (8 studs between wheels) are just fine for the two wagons, and it'd be a nice surprise if TLG returns to metal axles wheels. I also like seeing the corrugated panels 23405 in new colors white and light bluish gray which are the most versatile colors for building realistic containers. And that little flatbed truck is a good looker too. 😍 Edited May 3 by Selander Quote
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