Ron Dayes
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Thats one very cool and fancy car with all that "bling" on it :) For your first, this is a very stunning result to be certainly proud of! Chapeau!
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i like the M, just the fact that both bows dont connect each other in the middle to form the complete M is distracting a bit. How about doing a smaller M that stands on the roof only?
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If you use those classic lego street baseplates its gettiing hard. They were invented in the 4 wide era, and for that width its working allright. But you can build your curves out of bricks, for example like that. He also managed to include street rails on this one which i find really nice. And in general, if you make crossings wide enough, trucks can turn more easily. Its also hard to turn a truck with large overhang in real life in a 90° turn if the crossings are as narrow as in the modulars. Old european downtowns are no fun for any truckdriver (unless he likes to puzzle;), and thats what the modulars seem to portrait. So if you widen the streets, it should solve that issue. You have to build them though, which consumes bricks and time, but its possible. As for the trains, i currently find the wheels to large in diameter. The whole assembly is 3 bricks tall, so about minifig shoulder height, which is quite large. Im still on it, but looking at pics, i find the standard tires must be about the size of big car tires. Did an LDD file with my current progress, if you want to have a look. The green one seems fitting compared to that pic. the purple frame is a 1/42 scaled height of an ICE. So since 1/35 is bigger, shouldnt the standard boogie assembly fit in nicely? or why do you consider them too small for your scale? ICE train layout 222.lxf
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ok, i thought you meant 3x3 square by studs. i edited the file again. the olive one is exactly 3studs x 3bricks height. The other ones are 3 studs x 3,33 bricks height (so smaller than 4x4 wide or whatever window frames there is). These can have nice framing options and you can also vary sizes using this SNOT work. If you really want to be realistic, you gotta measure them all around your house^^ Or, take the biggest window and decide which ones are same size, smaller and even smaller than that. Then you just pick your window design according to your layout. Hope it helps. windows 2.lxf
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Ok, so if your layout is no big deal for you, i'll be seeing it soon Hmm, well...you could also use the flex tracks to form your "perfect curve" or maybe combine straight-flex-straight and so on. That would be real Lego. I just think, that flex tracks in large amounts remind me a bit too much of the old Strax Toys (remember them ? now, they are pretty unpopular). The look is just a bit off compared to real tracks, so a cheap printed version could look better - and also allow 8+ trains to curve. True though, finding solutions for issues in lego is what makes it fun - but sometimes, as for trains, its a bit frustrating not to have a larger radius curve. I think its a bit easier with cars, because once you look at the train track height, their wheel diameters and the availiable parts for it, there are a lot more problems to overcome in a 1/42 scale. Anyway, i'll try trains once i get more cars up;)
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Ah ok, well a hairpiece does change scaling a bit. I neglected the hairpiece, because "bold" people shouldnt necessarly be smaller than 175cm ^^ Also i found it hard to say which hairpiece...there are so many in LDD! if so, i'd probably use the classy one , did you use that one ? I'm afraid, there is not a single friends doll in LDD. I even looked it up cause i couldnt believe it (o.O seriously why isnt there one, what do friends fans do with LDD?). Guess i might need to buy one and take pictures then... Right, i noticed that too. Compared to the window sizes and frames, the rest seems too small. I mean, they could also just have really big windows and doors, thats not impossible even though it looks a bit odd. When i visited Amsterdam, i was amazed how narrow buidlings to live in can really be and really were build frequently over the ages, so that is also possible. I must try make a replica of an existing building in 1/42 and see how it compares to modular then. good point Er0l! Yeah you're right. Frankly not with official Lego Sets, since they are very popular - but also nice sets to admit, even if they do vary their scaling to each other as you mentioned (fire brigade...). I would want them because of the many useful parts... Totally agree, for the "scale perfectionists", designing everything yourself seems to be the better alternative than "adapting". Its pretty much what i have done so far (because i also cant afford the pieces right now to make my own modular-like build). I think scales bewtween 1/35 - 1/42 are a good start for the offical ones though. The only problem is the minifig anyway... Sounds like you got a big project coming up! i really want to know how your layout turns out Dont get me started on trains please^^, its even a bigger issue than the minifig lol especially for 1/42. I allready tried and found out the hard way (because of minifig width i choose 9 wide instead of 8,5, it works well on straights...only.) That must even be a bigger issue in 1/35, not? i mean, the trains must be bigger than 1/42. The ICE is 3 m wide, so if 5 studs are 1,46m in 1/35 , it needed to be 10 wide? But i heard that some people here on EB might sell printed rails with larger radius somewhere in the future, so there's still hope :D
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"Transparent clear bricks could clearly make a window of virtually any size but would show all the inner studs, joins etc.- not very see-through!" yep :-/ But frankly, cause you choose 3x3, i dont really see another option for you. Still, i think this particular brick could help you out a big deal here! It has no inner studs, and with 2 bricks height, you are close to 3 studs. Of course you could use a tranparent panel instead depending on pricing. But the brick has no baseplate like the panel, so its more elegant maybe. I attach 2 window options for you as LDD files (lfx). I think, the right one is the easiest to do for perfect 3x3. windows.lxf
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Hey search function! great to see you here man! Thanks, i also really like how it turned out in real bricks;) Yeah, the connections are a little really wild here, but it all fits tight via standard techniques ;-) Yeah, the Aventador is such a case. Its even a bit over 2 meters wide in real. In a 1/42 scale it needed to be 6 wide, but because i also took the minfig width into my calculation to compensate the overall look, it turns out 7 wide. (so by math its actually oversized, not undersized like it might seem for some). If you look at a front view, it seems plausible in 7 wide. Also, its a huge difference from a 6 to 7 wide car MOC as you know, it enters a whole new level of detail then. I dont think i could have done it like that in 6 wide. Also some connections are better working for me in that wider scale. 6 wide for standard is a clean choice, because i find 5 wide next to a minifig too narrow looking, alltough its "real scale". If the figs were ony 1 stud/brick torso witdh, it would be a totally different story. You mentioned the Modulars to be 1/36 ish. I cant really agree on that by taking door frames and windows into account for our scaling (whatever the scale). Cause, how high is a door in real life? - it varies... Example: Lego uses a 6 brick high doorframe, but that doesnt mean the door is 6 bricks high. Its actually 5,33 bricks high and in a 1/42 scale thats 2,3 m. My balcony glass doors are 2,35 m high, so its definately possible. If we do have a 6 brick high door, its 2,6 m - you can buy doors like that for a business... Also, in some Modulars, like the "green grocer", they use this door door which is only 5 bricks high, meaning 2,1 m in 1/42 scale. This door for example could be used for the standard inside doors of 2m height (which we all probably refer to as standard door height). It also swings over the studs. Knowing the old lego sets, this door was commonly used for that matter. Theres also a glass version of it. But if you enter a store or a bigger commerce building, the doors there will probably be 2,3 m in most cases - and that leads me to the point, that we have only "outside" doors for entrances in the modular series, which could be any height in real life. If we take 2 m height as a door standard, that definately applies for all "room" doors, but not necessarly entrances. I have seen no room doors in an official modular yet, which would be an interesting point here... I once lived in a building from 1890, where ceiling height was 1,95m and the door width only 60 cm! So we see, everything is possible when it comes to buildings. Long story short: we shouldnt use the modular frame sizes for scaling, nor their building height or width. The only thing we can use as a standard for any town layout (whatever the scale) are the vehicles - we can look up their sizes easily, and they will stay the same everywhere. its mass production. Most houses, specially those Amsterdam-flair-Lego-modulars show unique buildings of different eras and style, we simply cant put a standard to that. It will not give us a clean orientation on what the scale really is then. We can only check by calculations, if our scale is possible in real life (for example, door heights or ceiling height). By math, a 1/42 scale is fitting if we say a 5 brick high door of 2,18 m is a standard door and a minifigure of 4 bricks is 1,75 m high. For 1/35 it would be 6 brick high door = 2,17 m, the figs are 1,45 m high... a link to the reference pic posted above somewhere
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hi there, u dont have to accept windows too big or to small. You can still try building your own window using SNOT technique and working with transparent clear bricks. Ive seen some people use those techniques on train windows, so no problem for a house i think. an excellent guide also showing a few window techniques keep it up, greets ron.
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First off all thanks for liking the Koenigsegg! It was designed to fit into the SC theme, it was great fun to build. Im amazed by how much TLG is trying (yes, trying) to get more realism into cars with their SC sets. We can see reassamblence, sometimes only with stickers^^, but its for sure leading the right way! Im glad their are finally doing it:) Now to your critique So, you say it looks undersized and too short. True on first look it seems weird, also seemed so to me. I used to build bigger cars for minifigs before that (as you have found on my mocpages account) But I stopped that, once i did calculating and noticed all cars i made before the aventador were totally off scale. I picked 1/42, calculated and voila, it worked (for me). Have you read the description in the pictures above? Its all calculated according to height and width of the minfig! But never mind, i will explain further down. The only thing not working is the minifigs sitting upright, but thats because a fig sitting upright is not half its size, like a human would be. Instead its only 2 plates smaller, which is nothing really ( in 1/42 = 30 real cm). Also if you sit in a car, you lean back dont you? your head bends forwad, your legs have knee joints. All of this is not happening in a standard Lego minifig. So only solution if you want to keep this working scale is lying them down - thats what makes the car look short, because if it was sitting upright, you'd see 2x2 space being used by the driver from top and side view. Now its almost 5x2! it distorts the length apperance You say its worse in the aventador roadster, totally agree. The seating doesnt looks to comfortable for the figs, eh?^^ BUT thats the problem of the figs themselves, not the 1/42 scaling! If they could bend more, it wouldnt look weird. A side and top view should get you a better picture and show you, that the length is correct. Its actually the width thats wider not the length too short (okay, half a stud maybe). But because a fig is wide, i had to add a little on the sides to keep 2 figs side by side which doenst hurt the scale too much in my opinion. or does it? too short - sure? - Please compare with this original model picture from the web Comparisson fig to Aventador by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr a top view with the figs inside by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr why sitting upright is an issue in Lego by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr if minifigs had knee joints... by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr the big bending by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr the side view by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr In general, when it comes to lego car building, i think we tend to build bigger than it actually should be, because we either want them to fit upright or we are used to the large wheels lego offers us via the new sets since 2008. Since the City sets are wayleading, you have to work unconventional, which is definately not satisfying everone here;) If you still think that i did undersizing here, please feel free to discuss with me, even private conversation if you like and show me proof, i'm open for critique! To put this issue to a final for fellow readers: The choice is yours Is your City full of 130 cm "dwarf" minifig policemen, firefighters and remaining citizens in "normal sized" vehicles like this? ( or equal to: everything "normal", your vehicles just really big?) Or are your minfigs "grown, well build adults" with height about 170-180 cm and the cars proported to that - but they wont fit in sitting upright? so we gotta cheat! Depending on your choice you will have pro and cons for sure! Comparisson fig to Aventador by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr
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@ Er0L, your more than welcome! you did awesome pioneer work when it comes to city layouts! not just cars, also your working street lamps are pure genius:) If i ever get modulars myself, i would want to have those;) Agreed on the layout relativity! The second pic you mention was supposed to be one of those highway pavements on a bridge or something, where water after rainfall needs to exit via the gutters (the hinge piece gap). this pavement would indeed be 27 cm high, which could be realistic for that kind of pathway. i dont really know^^ i remember them being quite high. But usual, i refer to 1 tile being the pavement height in 1/42. If you have a road made of tiles and then add another tile (on a stud) then, pavement will be the total height of 1 tile. Or a plate so you can stick minifigs onto it;) For example the modulars have those skinnny baseplates, where its practical "just a snot" where those tiles stick on. I find that pretty well solved. First i thought that was not high enough for pavement, but turns out its possible for a 1/42 scale. But since you use 1/35 scale, 2,5 (lets not count studs for pavement, cause if a minifig stands on it, studs are gone) -> 2 studs -> x3,2mm x 35 = 22,4cm. I think a pavement can be that high, its not too absurd in my opinion. Your vehicles are also higher and bigger. I think the pavement doesnt matter that much in a general layout, because i think depending on where you live and how old the place is, it varies a lot. The only thing that doesnt change heights is the vehicles, cause we have known numbers for them. So i think it would be smart to scale everything after vehicles, whatever the scale of your choice is. Furthermore we dont really know what exact scale the modulars are. But again, buildings vary in height and sizes a lot aswell. I think that Amsterdam stood model for the Modular designs (looking at the new bank modular) and those buildings there are seriously small and narrow (for its very own reasons). To TLG, it gives a good set size. Because of the Pavement, the door frames and modular building heights, i believe it to be around 1/42 if we see the minifigure as "grown adults" of worldwide average male height of 175cm I did a quick shot, the modular door frame is touching baseplate, so the actual door is on pavement level. Sportscar to modular compare by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr
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Ah allright! thanks for your reply! Yes that truly is impossible to do :-( You can only choose "getting cars scaled down correctly compared to real life" -> minifig cant sit upright. Or adjust more height to the minifig sitting upright like lego city. I choose to scale the car down correctly via height and then added more width for easy minifig fitting (which makes it look shorter even though length is correct in scale). If you see the minfigs standing next to it, it looks more like real life to me. Of course it wouldnt be hard extending the length and adding more height - but also wouldnt be 1/42 anymore, which in my opinion is the correct scale for minifig height and also for modular by math alone. Any plate higher on a supercar like this, will actually "distort" the cars proportion. Also the wheel choice gets tricky if the height goes up. Thats why i find 5 bricks high CIty and Speed Champions look very comical - and all that just to get the fig to sit upright! Since i dont "play" legos, i dont mind if i lie them down, if that what it takes to get the cars proportions right. I admit, its the one very weird thing in my car builds, cause its very unconventional to "lay" in a car. The seating is not even included^^ Furthermore, a minifig frankly doenst have neck and knee joints, so leaning them way back is all that helps me here. In the end, its a matter of taste or better said tolerance of the minifig itself. I bet, if you like the fig to "sit" more, a scale of around 1/35 would be your prefered choice.(example: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/403196 ) For that scale (and also City scale), you must tolerate a standard car as high or even higher than your figs though, which i for myself simply cant (anymore) :-/ To show a little comparison to an actual Lego set (60053). Lambo Aventador compare City set by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr
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Thanks a lot Capone. haha, yeah, it'll be a lot more times than that. But it took about 1 hour to get all the minfigs dressed, so i kept them "low" in number. More detail also takes longer to render. This one pic needed 3 hours :/
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Really nice nostalgic feeling here. I had the firefighter set and also lost the helmet^^ i find the TV crew probably best of all, the design for a 4 wide is very advanced for that time compared to the other vehicles. it also contains a lot more special parts.
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Agree with the others, a really well balanced MOC! I think this would fit well in the Modular layout aswell. My favorite are the functions and all those nice little details! Keep it up!
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@Josiah A big thanks to you! I can only return the favor in saying how excellent your ships and mechs are! totally diggin the Mecha Hangar 5 btw I will keep up my work whenever i can and share what i find to be a good result. Until then, keep up your amazing style! @Nemo Again thanks and yeah, what we find good looking, depends on how we look at it. @ Lego DINO Thanks for your nice post! Its actually my fault of not posting a width scaling, so here it is. Thanks for pointing it out! I actually took concern of the width, and because minifigs are wide as you allready stated, i added more "incorrect" width to the "correct" length to compensate that matter. Or did you mean that the other way around, that id have to go more narrow, because a real person is about half as wide in proportion? So 6 wide be better? MINIFIG scaling Aventador for EB width by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr
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Thanks alot ER0L, this whole Minifig scaling and fitting into cars issue is permanently on my mind when im at it again. And i bet on yours too , after seeing your grand collection. I know 100% correct scale is not possible with Lego. Its Legos after all But still, i try to get something acceptable - so thanks for reading my post and taking the time calculating my scale! Very close, its 1/42 . 175 cm and minifig height 4,16 cm OK, you mentioned the height of the pavement to be a concern. True, figs are then higher - but if you stand on a pavement outside, you'd also be around 10 cms (depending on where you live) higher than a parking car by your side. I find the modular pavement being "a tile on a stud" quite accurate. In the 1/42 scale i use, one tile is 14,58 real cm high. So negelect the 4 cms more than an actual pavement may have, and the Modular pavement really comes in favor for a 1/42 scale. It also corrects my height of the aventador then, which is 10 cm to high (still!) Anyways, keep up your superb car building! Your flickr fotostream is really inspiring! greets, ron,
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@Nemo57 Thanks alot Nemo57, im glad you like them! It is slightly smaller in length, but actually higher and wider than it should be compared to about a 1:40 scale. I've given the Minifigs a height of real life 175 cm, being around average height of men worldwide. So is my scale really off? Pls take a look at the pictures below. Cause when i do the math, it seems to work.... @wookie So true, i would also prefer a really nice lego 5 wide trans brown or white windshield with a tilt greater than 45°. but frankly, there are none. So it left me no choice than building one myself. And stapled trans plates ontop each other look far worse than black. Its not for everyone, i know. Minifig scaling Aventador length by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr Minifig scaling Aventador height by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr Comparisson fig to Aventador by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr
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Hi everyone, I've recently finished one of my modular scale cars in real bricks, the Lamborghini Aventador. Currently, i have LDD files of a Mercedes, a BMW and also a Truck who will be finished soon. My scaling Trucks: 7-8 wide 15+ plates high maximum 2 minifigs in height Supercars: 6-7 wide 8 plates high below Minifig shoulders standard Cars: 6 wide 9 -10 plates high middle of Minifig head i dont use any of the availiable mudguards, so the width stays the exact width in total. I find Cars thinner than 6 wide unrealitsic - compared to the Minifigs and the Modular Buildings, that explains the wider than 'City' style scaling you see here. The wheel types i choose are also smaller than 'City' scale. Also, its possible to fit more than one minifig inside - or- to have it completly filled with bricks for windows etc. I thought, id share those pics with you guys, because i've read that some people are not all too happy with the City vehicles in their Modular Streets? I personally find this scaling and building detail more fitting to the modulars. What do you think? Watch the video below to see all the pics i've made of this model. Lamborghini Aventador for sale video by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr To show scale in front of a Modular (i frankly dont own any, so this has to do for starters). A bunch of fans waiting for their entry to the cinema. But before that, a special guest will arrive first. who will it be? an actor from the new Star Wars Film? possible autograph time? we dont know.... Modular Cars by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr The model ontop a brickbuild road Aventador roadster with figs by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr Lamborghini Aventador by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr Currently being worked on in LDD, i will make them 1 plate higher than shown on the photos, the rear must gain more height compared to my supercar scale. This is a replica of an AMG low tuned Mercedes E class. The windows can be taken out to fit 2 figs inside (leaning them figures back) Mercedes by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr Mercedes by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr This BMW is on the same platform, still needs some more work. BMW Wip by Ron Dayes, auf Flickr many greets and thanks for stopping by, i will upload more pics to this thread once im done with the other cars. Until then, stay safe!
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Vipergini explosivo^^ the name says it all! Great car moc! but i think it would work a lot easier (and without glueing/grinding), if you use those standard mudguards for this wheel type. Its also easy to cover them with 1x2 sloped tile pieces. Anyway, really clean design on this one, keep on brickin!
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great idea and interesting links to other peoples ideas aswell;) @scott If you can manage the printing + adding the metal onto it (fully functional with the original), and all at a reasonable price + you earn with it, id go for a kickstarter. I mean, its mainly AFOLs buying after all, so there is money to be made. I would definately buy large radius tracks, so i can finally get 8-9 wide trains working properly. I wouldnt care how much space i need^^ This issue been bothering me (and obviously others) for a long time now, so the market is there! I stay alert for your progress and possible buying options in the future ;) Until then, good luck!
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The entrance is very well made, very original part usage here! Fits right into the modulars! But in general, i find this building to small to serve as a hospital. i would use at least 2 of those baseplates next to each other, and stretch the entrance section over it. That will give you some actual room to place a few more bedrooms and an operating room on both top and bottom floor. Also a reception + hallway with seats on the bottom entry could find place then. Since its LDD, you got the space;) Apart from that, this is really a good looking WIP, would like to see it finished;)
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nice trucks, as always wonderful builds! i'm really fond of 8 wide for the trucks, works out! greets, ron.
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nice video, well reviewed. pretty cool functions for their "cheapest" set. -
Great collection, zapped them all on flickr and im very impressed! Excellent work man, keep it up! Greets, ron.