Appie

The non-drive train features of the 8070 are fine imo, IF they were added besides the normal functions a Lego Technic Supercar always had, like a gearbox used for the engine. Since everything looks like the Porsche will have every basic function a real Lego Technic supercar had, they can add any 8070 function as well for all I care.

Take it easy. It was a joke, hence the smiley. If you want to talk serious about the 8070 I think we have a designated topic for that set, but I also think we're 4+ years late for that discussion. So let's just say: you have your opinion and I have mine about that set and they are miles apart. And no, I wouldn't be able to make a 1300 parts car either in that scale and with those looks, but that wasn't the point in the first place and changes nothing of my opinion about the 8070.

The 8070 is a joke compared to anything though I wouldn't notice indeed, until that image I just thought flat engine and boxer were 2 names for the same type of engine (sorry, but I did).

Just to be clear, my post wasn't a plea for a return of buggy motors. I agree with your points that they don't really have a place in Lego for the mentioned safety and like you said for the potential breaking of parts. On topic: I can honestly say that this is the first set since my dark ages of which I want to build the B-model just for the fact it works together with the A-model. I will most likely buy 2. Just need to figure out what I am going to do with the 8k parts after it

Every PF motor in terms of power and speed is an example of a restriction for the sake of kids and why buggy motors will probably never return.

Bucket in your eye vs a finger on a gear... Not exactly the same eh? As for budget being an issue. I'd believe that on any other set that didn't have 4k parts and already PF installed. Another motor or a couple of axles from the XL to the LA's wouldn't break the budget at that point. This was a clear design choice.

But aren't motorized! The 9396 and 42052 have rubber parts on the end of the rotors for a reason: safety. But Appie they didn't do this on old helicopters. Nope, but companies learn stuff over the years especially from lawsuits in the USA. And that's the problem. Lego has to think for people that are not normal. These type of lawsuits only exist because companies don't think about how stupid people can be. Lego thankfully does.

Lawyers is still wasted money. And believe me Lego will get sued if one of the buckets comes unhinged and gets in a kid's eye, because the kid ran the bucket wheel into the ground because he didn't stop the motor in time. So yeah, suck it up, it's manual. Blame the kids, not Lego.

The parents for giving the brother a dollhouse

Clutchgears would have a harder time with that arm than the gear reduction in the 42009 to not stall the clutchgear in that model. So that's not an option. And the difference between a smashed dollhouse with PF LA's and manual is that Lego enabled the first method and in the second case it's just a brother being destructive. In the first case Lego would get sued. Especially in countries like the USA where they sue companies because the manual didn't mention you can't put a cat in a microwave. In the second it's just the brother's fault.

I mentioned this before, but the main reason the arm lift and especially lowering is manual is for safety. Remember kids will also be playing with this.

Iirc you only need to change the blue one that is on the axle of the selector M motor (really going by memory here). I don't know for sure why this topic suggests an old gray over a tan pin, since they are technically the same. I modded this part of the model as well since it didn't work properly, but I think I went with the different gear ratio that one of the poster's mentioned to provide more torque for the switch motor.

If this was a supercar from the studded/half studless era (which were around the 1400 parts), I'd say 1800 would be a good guess. But for a full studless model with a size that rivals the BWE for length and other cars build by people here in this scale? Anything below 2500 parts is unrealistic imo and I totally expect 3000 parts at least tbh. Hardly seen license fees in Technic sets, but going by another poster, Porsche is kind of a fan of licensing fees (RC world). Since this involves a supercar and not utility vehicles like the Mercedes and Volvo models, which can be seen as free advertisement for Mercedes and Volvo utility vehicles, Porsche might demand a fee.

Well that "rotating selector drum" could be located in the rear part of the centre console, after the the flappy panel gearbox mechanism. It would basically be the same as what Sheepo made for his Mustang. The servo in the Mustang has the same function as the knob gears here, moving a mechanism 90 degrees up or down which then powers a rotating selector drum to one of its 6 positions (5+R). The only problem in Sheepo's model is that it works reliably 90-95% of the time (which I still consider quite a feat for a remote control sequential gearbox ). I wouldn't be surprised if Lego made a few new parts to make that kind of system 100% reliable to provide more than 4 speeds in the gearbox.

7. Pneumatic forklift / Bucket truck Model A: Forklift Functions: - Pneumatic lift and tilt - 4 cylinder fake engine - HOG steering (and the steering wheel in the cabin moves along with it) - Pendular rear axle - Fork width adjustment (manual) Dimensions of the model: 34x14x17.5 studs (8330 cubic studs) Model B: Bucket truck Functions: - Pneumatic bucket lift - 4 outriggers with pneumatics - 2 cylinder fake engine - HOG steering - Crane turning radius 170 degrees (manual) Dimensions of the model: 34x13x17 studs (7514 cubic studs) Both models shown in this video: More images and information in this discussion topic

Thanks all. Yeah, sorry about the nitpicking. All is good

Disc brakes might happen, based only on the fact the box says 16+. Sheepo has used disc brakes in many of his models and while I build his Mustang it really is a precise work for them to function and not lock up the wheel when you aren't even touching the brakes. Not hard, but you have to work very precisely. I don't expect the Porsche to have them though, but I love to be surprised.

Why the hate on purple from alot of people? I'd love it. Some claiming it can't be used for other stuff? Look at the freaking thing. Just about every part ever made in Technic is in there and would then be purple (panel, liftarm, soft axle etc.). So if it is purple, you're set for whatever MOC. If they are going for an official colour,.I personally hope for purple or silver. Wouldn't mind orange, but it's 3rd for me.

That's a small panel.... edit: ^what he said

Considering the size of this model and a Mustang from Sheepo with no PF is 3500 parts and with PF 4k. I would guess 3000 parts for the Porsche is in the ballpark. 1500 would be a very open body or chassis, which the Porsche doesn't seem to have for either.

I did, First set since ever? Even previous flagships (and BWE) have 11-16. I still totally expect a book with 300 steps to add one liftarm each step, as is the norm.

What do you guys think about this? Not entirely pleased with this last one, arm pushing the limit of the cabinet made of wood, but any other way and I'd see white in the background again. And since the bounding box is sort of needed I upgraded mine and the pictures of it. Box is 35x15x18 studs (9450 cubic studs) Actual model 34x14x17.5 studs (8330 cubic studs) Actual model is 34x13x17 studs (7514 cubic studs)

Really hard. For the suggested retail price of 70 pounds I want to doubt this will have PF (also not on the box), but where is that handpump. I want to say right behind the cabin I see something that could be the top of a handpump, before the bevelgear sticking out?

Because Markus knows that if he didn't make that manual he'd have kids (and adults) who drive their spinning bucketwheel into the ground if that thing would be linked to a PF motor, causing all kind of problems for the user and the Lego.

Propably hood yeah, but since the gearstick looks sequential, we could hope for flappy panels that work/move with the gearstick? Based on the angle of the rear spoiler on the box compared to the real image, maybe that is adjustable too? Hopefully combined with brakes or "speed" of the vehicle.