MstrOfPppts, on 21 July 2011 - 03:10 PM, said:
Saying that the design is similar to a 10 year old boys MOC is not as insulting as it is critical! Otherwise it is insulting for a 10 year old boy as well. Who sais that those MOCs can't be good - maybe even better than this ship. Just look at the most recent pictures from the back - who can't build that? A straight black wall with no whatsoever decoration or detail! I'm afraid to look even lower, where the mast touches the water. I think they're using new little arcs instead of the bigger ones (same piece count) and it looks bulky, unfinished and rushed at edges. At least from the perspectives we get in current images. As already mentioned plenty of times I'm really afraid there's no second wave and that the ship was just designed for beeing announced earlier. The reasons to me are unknown but I still believe they had plenty of better solutions. From using more pieces, delaying the arrival of the set to postponing it to next year and making the interceptor istead! That way you get a 90ish € ship this year and the same size as QAR BP next year!
I'd say it is
insulting to say that a professional designer's model is something a ten-year-old boy could have built. There are a lot of decisions that go into designing a LEGO set, and those decisions are often rooted in the extensive background knowledge and design experience of the set designers. It's essentially like saying a ten-year-old could have written The Lord of the Rings
. Whether or not there is some magical ten-year-old who can produce such a celebrated fantasy world, it's still demeaning to the writer to say that their hard work could as easily have been done by a person without the same expertise or background knowledge.
Meanwhile, as seen in Hinckley's photos, it's not just a straight black wall-- it's on a hinge, as are the side walls of the captain's cabin. While this is a simple enough technique for an AFOL (and even for some particularly apt kids), it's every bit as complex as I feel a the Black Pearl's stern needs to be (hey, it was good enough for Brickbeard's Bounty, the flagship set of the 2009 Pirates line). The Black Pearl is not an especially complicated ship compared to the other ships in the PotC franchise, and so using advanced building techniques where they aren't necessary would be wasteful.
Personally, as a MOCist I often try to imagine my MOCs as if they were sets, and you might not believe how difficult it sometimes is to simplify a complex idea without removing the most important characteristics. So just because a set is simpler doesn't mean that less hard work and design experience went into it. In this case, practically the whole ship is scaled down compared to the Queen Anne's Revenge, and I personally feel it was done fairly effectively. As mentioned, the main flaw I see in the set design is that ugly hollow area between the figurehead and the bow of the ship.
The interceptor isn't nearly as familiar a ship as the Black Pearl. If TLG were to release another ship from the franchise, I imagine that they'd make the Flying Dutchman-- something that might very well justify releasing the Black Pearl as a smaller vessel. It's entirely possible that there were plans to do just that, even if they are not still standing (and we don't know that there aren't). We know the Black Pearl has been designed since February at least since its piece count, price, and the film it is taken from have been known since the New York Toy Fair. I imagine the reason for it not being shown until recently, rather than because it's a recent design, is because TLG planned a later release for it and wanted pictures kept under wraps until its release was closer.
The comment that makes me bitter is a protective comment for a thing that is clearly bad. I mean look at all the 18 pages thread out of which 90% are criticism and disagreeings with this set. I know that noone is perfect and also LEGO can't do everything right but one thing is a fact: they f***ed up with this one ... I mean we all are adults here and we all understand what is meant by each word even if sometimes they are too harsh, noone is insulting nobody or wishing anyone any bad! The problem of this set is that LEGO rarely makes mistakes and all of other POTC sets were designed so cool, that noone can go past this set without getting a grim expression on his face. This is just like Blizzard would create an average or even worse game after so many hits they have!
The fact that a forum of adult fans tends to dislike what is at its core a kid's toy doesn't really strike me as evidence that the set is inherently bad. In the beginning of BIONICLE, that theme was massively
rejected by AFOLdom, but today there are many AFOLs on this very site that grew up with it and appreciate it as a theme. As I see it, obviously any kid will be able to tell that the QAR or the Imperial Flagship is a better set than the Black Pearl; I'm not denying that. But I take issue with how many AFOLs had unrealistically-inflated expectations of this set. I'm sure kids who are looking for a pirate ship within this price range will be plenty happy with this set.
When we first learned about the set, there were some minor grumblings about price point and piece count, but in general there was a lot of anticipation. Since pics emerged, however, nobody's stepped up and proposed big improvements that would maintain a similar price point, besides the occasional people who suggest alternative minifigures or minor color changes. Instead, people suggest the Black Pearl should have been a higher-priced set in the first place, with some people going so far as to suggest it should have been to the caliber of the Imperial Flagship! Personally, I think TLG is wise to price it and release it as they currently have planned, even if it is not much more extravagant than the typical LEGO pirate ship.
Of course, I'm not much of a LEGO Pirates fan, so I may be a bit naive in thinking that $100 dollars is a high enough price point for any non-D2C set from a licensed theme. I also may be getting behind the times, considering how Ninjago's flagship set, the Fire Temple, is a non-licensed, non-D2C set with a $120 price tag. But I still can't help but think that the Black Pearl is not such a special ship in the grand scheme of things and does not demand a hugely-intricate LEGO incarnation like the QAR-- or, were it to happen, the Dutchman.