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42177 Mercedes G500 4X4
SNIPE replied to SNIPE's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
I managed to download the video How can I share it without getting into trouble -
42177 Mercedes G500 4X4
SNIPE replied to SNIPE's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
I have the fins in black, they are around the same angle as the new #7 connector amd can be made into a ring. The rear diff lock has a white 3L axle joiner, so I belive it can snap in place using a 3L clutch ring -
Here is the v3 chassis still not sure about how far away the rear axle should be from the 19L girders, because on the original set, the rear axle is on a diagonal so I estimated. Missing 4 bellville microphones in black , these connect to the yellow connectors. Of course the frames can pivot because they're not properly connected. The pins and green bars are just to keep the cross blocks holding the wishbones central and 5L apart, but signify that theres 1L space available under them.
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42177 Mercedes G500 4X4
SNIPE replied to SNIPE's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
How would you have space to deboss the number into the plastic, also the dot would be hard to see. -
42177 Mercedes G500 4X4
SNIPE replied to SNIPE's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
So the rear diff lock is not connected to the third cabin lever right? -
Correct. I used a Daytona differential and couldn't fit the steering arms in, they would just hit off the diff if they were moved from outside of the wheel, or if they were inside the wheels, they would rub against the rims (they must be parralel in all 3 axis to the wishbones). this is why the v2 ldr file has the steering arms not connected. I didn't want to move the steering rack even further away from the diff either because its bad for handling and wastes space. if I did, it would have sat on top of the 2 eight tooth gears that I used to centre the drive shaft but that's not a problem. Doing a load of hoop jumping to raise the axle + drive shaft so that you can put the diff+a gear on either side of it to centre the drive shaft (and now the 7x11 frame doesn't block the drive shaft hole) just causes 3 more problems: 1. Gears can slip 2. Massively overcomplicates the design and wastes space 3. Steering rack is now too high to work with the wheels+wheel hubs So I prefer the direct attachment of the clutch ring to the diff. Putting the steering rack on the same side as the diff lock mechanism was certainly not a bad idea in theory but the trouble is: 1. The steering gear+axle is missing and its connetors to hold it are missing (not a huge deal) 2. I need to get the small spike prime angular motor in for the diff lock and it integrates better if its not on the same side as the steering rack. 3. the gray 28 tooth gear is a space hog Luckily I have 2 working axles with steering, suspension, diff, diff lock and motor already for my 42110 mod so I just need to buy some more specialized parts in order to duplicate those. This is why we need a chatroom, to more easily share digital models and images, and also chat more in real time lol, here would be for major updates to my mod project and for other people's mods
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General Part Discussion
SNIPE replied to Polo-Freak's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
just train wheels, which use a bar hole anyhow- 5,465 replies
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2025 Technic Sets Discussion
SNIPE replied to Ngoc Nguyen's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
I hope the 2025 1h sets are better than this year, remember the mack anthem? or the heavy lift helicopter?, those were proper 1h sets Ok, the purgeot race car had a high enough parts count but needed 1 or 2 more functions tbh, we got enough cars with the same basic functions already like the rally car, porshe rsr , 24h race car, Ferrari (42125) etc -
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SNIPE replied to Polo-Freak's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Good call, forgot to buy some of these.- 5,465 replies
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it isn't as independent as a normal locking differential like the 2 ways I showed is what I mean. The land rover axle is actually 1L wider on each side compared to the stock 42177 axle. I have a third iteration anyhow now, as I rather stupidly thought (idk why) that the audi wheel hubs were just the same , connections wise as the planetary hubs and so I substituted them with the audi hubs but their connection points are different, so I had to jump through a few hoops to get the steering not rubbing against the rims of the tyre but also so that the steering geometry is correct, I have it close to correct but need 4x belvillle mic from brick link, as the steering arms are like 1mm too high on the steering rack side and cannot go higher on the wheel side because it is almost scraping the inside of the wheel as is. The belvillle mic is slightly lower then a ball pin and even lower than an axle pin, but unlike a bar with ball joint, has a stopper so it cant get pushed down too far which causes 2 problems :) Pics of this soon. Also @Jim can I just paste the discord link here or is that against the rules?
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this isn't a proper diff lock, I did something similar but where I used a 20 tooth gear on both sides of the diff which meshed to a 12 tooth on both sides which meshed to 20 tooths where one is an idler but this took up more space, until the new 2L drive ring+ short reinforced female CV joints came out, now I can put the drive ring on the same axle as the diff.
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Ok, i've came to a decision, since it is basically impossible to fit these 6L steering links in, I tried a load of ideas, even with the new links in set 42182. So I have decided to make the axle 1L wider on each size,and either: A. Just keep the bodywork as is, but tile off the wheel arches which makes the wheel arches which would increase their width anyhow so therefore the wheel wont look like it sticks out as much B Widen the entire body, but then its out of propotion C. Scale up the entire model (so basically redesign the whole dang model, this is the hardest option Now onto the upsides: A has the benefit of letting me use the short reinforced wheel joints with the planetary hubs, so more axle strengh and drive torque B same as A but more space for other mods since the chassis is wider C same as A but more space for other mods since the chassis is wider, higher, and longer I'll do A for now as its the least invasive.
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42182 NASA Apollo Lunar Rover
SNIPE replied to Ngoc Nguyen's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
@R0Sch do you have the ldraw file for the new 6L steering link? I need it for my 42177 mod Thx -
Update: not sure if rear axle frame is 1 module too close the side girders. Steering to be connected comma panels + spike prime small angular motors for diff locks I have an axle from my 42110 mod with the motors comma panels and steering done but its wider and also uses planetary hubs so I need to adapt the steering so that it uses the hubs from set 42143. oh also SORRY but the live axle I cannot keep because its full of diagonal beams and links and also the whole axle itself needs to move which is a MASSIVE space killer and I need all the space i can get. I am not even putting the cables in 1x1 gaps because even those are wasteful, instead , im putting them in the tiny gaps that is presenti inbetween 2 beams/connectors placed in series. If my tiled off mudguard idea works in practise or if I can change it slightly so theres no parts collosion I may just widen the wheel spacing anyhow so that way I can get the planetary hubs in + reinforced VC joints. its much easier than scaling the whole car up, thats a last resort.
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SNIPE replied to Polo-Freak's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Anyone know if the Kawasaki engine piston fits onto a system finger joint?- 5,465 replies
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42177 Mercedes G500 4X4
SNIPE replied to SNIPE's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
question: the rear axle has two 5L suspension arms and one new suspension arm from set 42172, so what is this 9L link used for? (it's in the bag where you build the rear axle) I wonder if it's to remotley lock the rear diff, and the photo of him doing it was just a more camera friendly way of presenting the function. -
Yeah, for now ill just ditch the planetary hubs and use stock hubs along with cv joint female short and 5L axle with cv joint ends. Anyhow, i forgot that the beams are not 45 degrees but 53.13 degrees so the horizontal 6 and 8L tile isnt quite fitting :( LDCAD freaked out when I tried to copy then mirror this assembly for the other side of the car but heres the ldraw file anyhow: here and heres a full size image: here Working on front axle now EDIT: done, didnt add steeing yet because not sure where the steering goes in real model, I have brick built fake disc brakes that can slip over the wheel hubs, they were originally for my 42110 mod so went over planetary hubs but they should work here too. LDRAW file: here and full size image here This axle is more or less the same as the one in my 42110 mod and the clutch ring is moved using a comma panel connected to a spike prime small angular motor (too bad about the color vomit)
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Hi, Since this set is special, like 42110.and will get more than just a handful of mods I was thinking about making a discord messageboard/chatroom and letting people MOD it as a community, so i'll PM the link for those interested (hopefully some technic veterans will be interested in taking part!) since I want to make this set as good as possible. This thread is not exclusively for that group anyhow, so anyone can post their MODs, or discuss MODs here. I will leave the 42172 McLaren MODs thread for another user to create. Without further ado here is some of my mod ideas: • I want to use some of the new black 1x2 tiles with diagonal cutout + some normal tiles to cover the holes on the black mudguards. (I will post the ldraw mockup of that shortly) • Locking front diff • Locking central diff (if official set does not have one) • 8 speed gearbox (if official set does not have one) • Winch (if official set does not have one) • Adjustable ride height • Rear wheel steering (a little) • Locking doors (if official set does not have them) • Locking rear door (if official set does not have one) • Bonnet latch (if official set does not have one) • Removable Body • Portal hubs with fake disc brakes (have this in ldraw already) • I think full motorization+LEDS is a stretch even without factoring in 2 buwizz 3.0's but I can just make a scaled up version with more.room (much later on though), partial motorization is certainly possible (just look at gamayuns 42110 mod V6!) Looking forward to seeing what we can do with this beast 🙂 EDIT: discord server is up and can be found here (no registration required)
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42177 Mercedes G500 4X4
SNIPE replied to SNIPE's topic in LEGO Technic, Mindstorms, Model Team and Scale Modeling
Maybe the doors open and close easier with the bottom connector