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Dang, now I'm disappointed. Time to go drink some more. I thought sure I'd hear from the darn assassins with my clever call, but they haven't revealed themselves to us Guess it's time to switch back to normal hunting... so much work though.

True, so I've got an idea. <yelling>HEY YOU SCUMMY ASSASSINS! QUIT HIDING AND JUST TELL US WHO YOU ARE SO WE CAN LYNCH YOU! </ yelling> I promise that we'll make your death quick instead of painful and drawn out... <whispering>(think that'll work?) </ whispering>

Oh really? Let's see what you said (edited down to the sentence in question): So maybe it wasn't for being second per se, but for trying to get an "easy bandwagon" (aka being the second voter....) which is exactly what it looks like you're doing.

I'm feeling the deep hypocrisy that Corporal Banning complained about Fitz being a second vote, and voted him for it, WHILE DOING IT HIMSELF. Seems like a scummy attempt to get the bandwagon rolling on Fitz. Therefore, Vote: Corporal Banning (Tariq J)

Comrade?!? Why that sounds like some sort of communist socialist talk to me, making you highly suspicious! Got my eye on you Corporal!

Long day and I'm tired. Even after our losses in the battles, this town still eats a LOT. Time to drink. Mairn, ye'd better not have drunk it all already!

Correct, I am a miller who grinds grain so ye can eat, not a miller who is a townie that appears scum in an investigation :) Bah. I walk in circles all day around my grindstone. These numbers you speak are way over my head. Now that I think about it though, you haven't been buying as much of my grain lately.... perhaps you have another source of supply? Hm? Hmmmmm? I'm watching you. Just like I watch everyone. Except when I'm dizzy from walking in circles. Then I can't watch much of anything.

Just to be clear, I am a miller in my job here in Cresthaven, not a miller in this hunt for the dastardly assassins. I knew their withdrawal seemed too easy.... but how on earth did they convince Norbert to turn traitor? I thought I knew him well... obviously I was mistaken. Now, we hunt the other assassins. For the king!

If we drink enough, not only will I have the courage to fight, but my pitchfork might start to look like a sword. And also, if we ALL drink enough, we'll make sure those assassins are drunk too. Easier for us to beat that way, I say.

And Wilfred is here as well. I may only have a pitchfork, but I'll use it to hunt these assassins. Although they do sound scary... maybe I need a drink first.

I'll play. 1. Yes, I've played a game or two here. 2. Yes, I'll have time to play (and won't disappear like the last game for a day) 3. Either blacksmith or military drummer.

This also shows just how much the Lego tires limit what can be done. They're just too slick. The motors and suspension obviously are more capable, but the tires are the limiting factor. Wonder when Lego will make something grippier... they've sure made enough off road vehicles that it would seem to make sense. But I suspect they don't really want their off roaders being used off road (or outdoors)...

Wow, performance of that thing is a beast! Very impressive and I love the non-lego tires on it. Oh, and loving those periodic table blocks too

Yep, we're quite different people, that's obvious :) And I still maintain that I wasn't saying that you were godfather, just that making any reference to the last game was completely irrelevant and bad statistics :) I did appreciate your explanation of why you offered yourself up for lynch. That does make more sense now that I see your logic. LadyK - I think there was some misunderstandings with how you relayed info. For a couple of the days, I think you meant to say you had no evidence (no night results) but personally felt that person X was scum. But it came across to the rest of the town as a sure thing and so it pretty much killed the day's discussion and debate and just got that person lynched. Personally, I think it'd have been better on those days to just say that you don't have proof of anyone, and then wait to place you own vote so you didn't lead. There was a real risk of you losing the trust of the town when there were several days of lynching townies based on your accusations. That said, for a first time being the town leader, congrats on a win and you handled it pretty well - especially those first couple days when you had to claim so early! Thanks for a fun game. It was a crazy bunch of weeks for me so it was almost a relief to get lynched, but at the same time sad to be on the sidelines.

Quickie review: I bought the instructions for both this and the flatbed. The email with link arrived in less than 24 hours (I ordered them when it was night in Europe, so the not-instant reply was expected). They're big files - half a gig for the pair of pdf files - but again, expected with them being hundreds of pages long. And they're good. Almost as good as real Lego manuals. There were only a few spots I had any confusion over parts or how to assemble something, and they were minor. There's also more spots with large modules that need to be attached than Lego would do, and sometimes it's tricky to get 6-10 pins and axles lined up. My only gripe is general with electronic instructions. Most people are using them on a tablet or small-ish laptop, so they end up being smaller than a paper manual. It made for a fair bit of zooming and panning, since you need to see the corner with the parts shown, but then pan over to the picture to see where they go. But that's just what happens when building a large model with instructions on a 10" screen. The build itself was great. Very few "build x of these same modules" or "build the same thing twice, but mirrored" sections. It came together nicely and you end up with a VERY big truck. It's nice and solid, other than the upper deck which you can see just from looking is a little flimsy (which is realistic, not a complaint). The functions are very well implemented. The lowering the upper deck is a bit weird, since I can't think of any reason you'd want to, but it's an awesome bit of engineering. The front and back are lowered by completely different mechanisms, but it stays almost perfectly level. Very very cleverly done. The build took a lot of hours, but in a good way. My other favorite part is the knob to turn the battery box on and off. That's such a nice feature, having that function in a knob next to the gearbox switch. Makes switching direction so easy. His mechanism works great too. There's only a small pile of parts left over, and the whole build felt less B-model-ish than real Lego sets. (by that I mean the tendency in B-models to have parts used weirdly, just because they're the parts available rather than the ideal part). I did have to go hunt down a few parts, but I suspect my bin of "42009 parts" had been raided at some point. I was short a few axles and bushes. Again, probably my fault - I didn't take an inventory before I started. My only other nitpick is that routing the cable from the motor to the battery is unclear. It needs to go a certain way to reach, but the installation of motor and battery are hundreds of steps apart. So look ahead to where it needs to go and keep that in mind as you build so that you can keep the cable routed well. Overall, this was absolutely worth the cost for the instructions and I'm looking forward to building the flatbed as soon as I have time - and I'm saying that as someone with a brand new in the box Arocs in the house waiting to be built too! I'm honestly not sure which I'll build first :) (ok, probably the Arocs, but mostly because I hate taking sets apart, so I'm not looking forward to disassembling the car transporter to build the flatbed)

Thanks for a fun game! Looking forward to seeing how it plays out...

That's what I'm talking about - she and I had a debate about her calling me scummy without reason on day 1 and it evolved into discussion/debate over placing baseless votes and baseless accusations. None of that was a "case" against me. That alone, not necessarily. But why not stick around and keep discussing? Scum love to hide. Townies talk. (I know, I haven't been a good example of that on this adventure. Doesn't make it less true) Isn't that what i've done? Did some actual digging and built a case on Quincy that's far more solid than anything anyone's said against me? I'm sure at this point that I'm not going to change your minds, but at least give credit where due that I'm doing what I can to help town before I'm lynched. And why have you not shared whatever accusations were made in private against me so that others could evaluate them? I'm trusting that you do have good reason, since I 100% believe you're town, but it sucks to try to defend against nothing. Again, whatever those accusations are that made you throw me under the bus, make sure people know so that tomorrow that person can be on the hot seat even if you're gone. Because that person is scum. And additionally, I fully expect that tomorrow Quincy there will be on the very hot seat after I flip town. I think footh was right in saying that Duke would ahve mixed some actual scum in his names, so after I show up as town, that leaves Quincy there.

What points? Your claim that Delwyn made a "strong case" against me on day 2? I just re-read day 2 and I sure don't see any case against me. She and I had a debate over her scum-reading me on day 1, but that's all. There was no case made. And what on earth could she possibly have learned that would make me want to kill her off, if I was scum? I wouldn't have claimed anything in PM to her, and if she was any PR that had learned anything about me (not that there is anything to learn, since I've already stated I'm vanilla townie) we'd have heard about it publicly. You're just reaching here.

Done defending myself unless some new actual accusation comes out. Instead, time to put my time towards finding the real scum among us. The most obvious, as brought up by Footh, would be Quincy, based on Duke's names, because I do agree that a proven scum is likely to have thrown some actual scum into his mentions. Day 1 Posts the normal fluff like anyone else, then is quiet a while, then jumps on Perce's weird claiming to place the second vote on Perce. After a few more content-less posts, Quincy gets voted against by Delwyn, a proven townie (who apparently has decent day 1 reading ability since she'd also voted against Anthony!) And then here Duke votes for Quincy, when there's like 8 people with votes on them, it puts just the second vote on Quincy, and both Perce and Delwyn had 3 votes on them. And with such a slight reason for this vote on Quincy, it'd be easy for Duke to change it later if there was any steam on a quincy bandwagon. On the other hand, it was likely that one of the two townies was going to get lynched, so this was a great time for one scum to vote for another to use as a defense later in the game. Too bad it backfired by Duke getting lynched first... Day 2 Starts the day off poking at me, without actually making a point here. Prods the block for info, then as soon as Molly declares a scum has been found, Quincy votes and disappears for the rest of the day. Day 3 Solidly agree with Elijah here, why would you be that interested in Mike's thoughts? And why the fishing for vig info? Trying to muddy the waters of what the scum did? I actually doubt the scum DID kill Mike, since he made more sense as a vig target than scum, but just feels like fishing to me. Overall, Quincy has made little actual contribution, prodded OTHERS frequently about not talking enough (hypocritical much?), and done a bit of fishing. This is far from the most solid case I've ever built, but it's certainly enough for me to Vote: Quincy (KingoftheZempk)

More importantly... I'm not done fighting. Working on a case right now in fact. However, in the (likely?) event I'm lynched, you'll see me flip town tomorrow, so Molly, PLEASE make sure someone you trust knows what this accusation against me was, so that in case you get killed by the scum, the town has that information to use tomorrow.

I do believe our wonderful host needs some remedial kindergarden math - he says 3 votes on me but lists 7 names. I'd be happy to count those 7 people as 3 though...

Yes, I edited that down to just the things I want to comment on. First, good deductions about the scum abilities/knowledge. Makes sense to me. Someone also mentioned today that Duke was probably the scum killer since there was no night kill from them, but that doesn't make sense. Normally in that scenario his kill would have occurred too. So I think the scum kill failed - for example, if they tried to kill Molly but she was protected. Or our blocked successfully blocked the killer. Therefore, I'd recommend Molly re-analyse her info and consider that. If you want to lynch scum, I'd recommend we take out whoever was blocked instead of me, since I'm not scum. I'd agree that light talk about people can be a scumtell. Does that mean everyone Duke ever mentioned was scum? Seems like you're reaching here, given that he made one tiny mention of me. To be a scumtell you'd probably need to see more than that. Generally, I agree with your analysis that a list from a scum has a scum on it. But here's where I disagree - I know I'm not scum, so that makes me suspect Quincy automatically. I went through day 1 - the vote Duke put on Quincy was about the only mention he made of him, and there was no real risk of quincy getting lynched, so it'd be a safe thing to do if both were scum. Day 2, Duke made one single post in which he made brief mentions of both quincy and myself, amongst several others and bringing up multiple scum teams and other stuff. Day 3, Duke never showed up. So your argument that Duke was " after zempk from day 1" seems WAY overstating things. He placed a single no-risk vote on Quincy and even if Duke isn't savvy enough to do that, he'd have a team helping him and suggesting that some scum vote for other scum in day 1. So I'd say there's a solid case that Quincy is scum.

I'm here now. And ready to fight for my survival - because a lynch of me is a lynch of a townie. Not a great townie in this adventure - I'm a vanilla townie who's been too quiet due to other things going on - but still a townie. A lynch of me is 100% not a scum lynch, and therefore the wrong direction for town. My vote change yesterday was 100% because we got some results from Molly so I acted on them. I was here and changed my vote. Why on earth would I NOT have? In fact, if I hadn't changed and anyone had seen me around, that would have been ultra-scummy, right? What on earth could you possibly have learned that is against me? Whatever it is, it's lies and THAT person is the scum. And as for that, you need to be more careful on your reports. I was on EB this morning, but NOT in the day thread. That's why I didn't respond. I got as far as getting to the mafia forum when I had to go deal with a screaming kid and never got back to the computer till now. So no, I had no idea I was getting voted like this until just now. Coming up will be a response to Footh's day-starting analysis, but it'll take a little time to assemble since he had some good points with research but drew the wrong conclusions.

No, from the time stamps we've got TWO minutes. Even worse! Looks like a no-lynch day

Well then I will unvote: Woodcock (bob) Vote: Duke Bowman (cutcobra) Now, am I right that we have like 30 minutes before the end of the day? Eek! So many people not voting.