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I just finished the Ornithopter today. It may be one of the best sets I've ever built. The thing is HUGE for the price, looks incredible, and has a real presence in the room it's in. The figs are also excellent, almost every major character is here in the one set. I'd say it's like a 9/10 with just couple minor gripes, some of which are more subjective than objective. The color matching here can be rough. The blue pins and red axles are fine, but there's a lime piece that you can see pretty clearly from some angles that's just a 1x2 brick. The figures are nearly perfect, but I would have much preferred Stilgar to Kynes (aside from just the fact that he leads the Fremen more directly, that "I don't care what you believe, I BELIEVE" from the trailer for Dune 2 is an incredible line delivery and the character deserves a figure), and I would rather have had Paul and Jessica with stillsuit masks on the other sides of their heads. I made a small display for the figures just using some tan parts for sand, with the Baron floating behind. 

It's truly an incredible set. I truly hope we get more Dune, just for my love of the franchise and wanting characters like Stillgar and the Sardukar, but they won't be able to match the engineering that went into this thing.

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I wonder what set they might do next? Another vehicle, or perhaps a scenery? The worm?

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1 hour ago, hikouki said:

I wonder what set they might do next? Another vehicle, or perhaps a scenery? The worm?

Unfortunately I don't know if there is a next. This is the icons subline, not a full dune theme, and there aren't many iconic designs besides the ornithopter (Plus, the fact that they went out of their way to include almost every major character and every major outfit makes me think that at least at the time of the ornithopter's design, nothing was in place.)

If the ornithopter does well, I'd like to see a diorama set of Shai Halud's maw with Paul standing in front. But what I'd want most is battle packs for each house/faction. Fremen, Sardukar, Atreides, and Harkennon. But I don't think we'll see anything for a few years- probably at most something in 2026/2027 to sync up with a movie based on the second novel, if they're planning that.

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2 hours ago, LegendaryArticuno said:

I'm tempted to buy the Ornithopter but it's way too big. Really wish they reduced the size significantly and used the parts for a stand instead.

Hmm...maybe they could make a small non-technic version!

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I think one further oversight in this set, given how only a couple of the minifigures can be placed inside the cockpit, is the absence of 2x3 minifig display plates for the remaining figures. This would have been a very easy and inexpensive addition.

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Dune part two may legitimately be the greatest film I've ever seen. It's also probably less appropriate than part one- there's more graphic violence and a couple scenes that are a bit suggestive. But that said, the film is GOOD. And it's tracking to make a fair chunk of change. 

I think ultimately the chances of more sets will be dependent on sales of the Ornithopter.... but I also think sales of the Ornithopter might get a bump this weekend.

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8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think ultimately the chances of more sets will be dependent on sales of the Ornithopter.... but I also think sales of the Ornithopter might get a bump this weekend.

The question is though, what else they would do. The most obvious idea is a sandworm-riding diorama, even though it’d have to be microscale to make any sense :laugh:

There are other vehicles too, sure, but while they’re well-designed, they’re not quite as recognisable as the ornithopter :shrug_oh_well: 

That said, I definitely wouldn’t say no to more sets! Part 2 was really impressive, even more so than the first one. Now I’m hoping for Dune Messiah to be adapted as well! Please stop after that though, I don’t need to see

Leto II as a sandworm hybrid

, as hilarious as that would be :laugh_hard:

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3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The question is though, what else they would do. The most obvious idea is a sandworm-riding diorama, even though it’d have to be microscale to make any sense :laugh:

There are other vehicles too, sure, but while they’re well-designed, they’re not quite as recognisable as the ornithopter :shrug_oh_well: 

That said, I definitely wouldn’t say no to more sets! Part 2 was really impressive, even more so than the first one. Now I’m hoping for Dune Messiah to be adapted as well! Please stop after that though, I don’t need to see

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Leto II as a sandworm hybrid

, as hilarious as that would be :laugh_hard:

I mean, as we see, sandworms are a variety of sizes. I think they could pull off riding a smaller one.

I've wanted for awhile a diorama with Paul and Lady Jessica staring down the sandworm from part one, with the sandworm's maw structured sort of like the outline of the palpatine's throne room diorama. I think another good option would be a playscale version of the gunship ornithopter with the pintle mounted gun-

Spoiler

the one Paul and Chani take out near the start.

 

As for that last bit, seeing 

Spoiler

how much they've deviated the story already- in good ways, IMO

I honestly think it's anyone's guess what is or isn't in a Dune Messiah film, at least in terms of details like that.

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Just finished my Ornithopter, I did quite a large recolour but kept the construction the same as the original.

53563745148_7d08f85deb_b.jpg

The only place I deviated was the hinges to mount the cockpit side glass where I used 2 1x2 hinge plates instead of a 1x4 hinge plate so I could get this in DBG.

I’m off to see part 2 next Wednesday, IMAX of course. I think Part 3, Messiah, will be inevitable as Part 2 has amazing reviews so as long as the box office returns are good it’ll be made.

If they’re to do another Dune set then only thing I’d want would be a Sandworm.

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On 3/1/2024 at 5:04 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

As for that last bit, seeing 

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how much they've deviated the story already- in good ways, IMO

I honestly think it's anyone's guess what is or isn't in a Dune Messiah film, at least in terms of details like that.

Well, Messiah has none of the really weird stuff yet. That only happens from the fourth book onwards :laugh_hard: That‘s probably why Villeneuve insists that he doesn‘t want to tackle anything beyond Messiah :laugh:

I still doubt we’ll see another set, but I certainly wouldn’t say no to that!

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18 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Well, Messiah has none of the really weird stuff yet. That only happens from the fourth book onwards :laugh_hard: That‘s probably why Villeneuve insists that he doesn‘t want to tackle anything beyond Messiah :laugh:

I still doubt we’ll see another set, but I certainly wouldn’t say no to that!

Your right it’s generally said books 1-3 are “normal” and the weird stuff is 4-6

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When pressing the wing-flapper, the mechanism rubs against the 2x3 plate next to it on the the tail-ward side and causes the plate to loosen. Happen to anyone else?

Not super impressed with the wing-flapping. It basically gives the wings a nudge against gravity and you have to build up a persistent rhythm to get meaningful flaps.

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On 02/03/2024 at 21:10, Seasider said:

Je viens de terminer mon Ornithoptère, j'ai fait une recoloration assez importante mais j'ai gardé la construction identique à l'original.

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Le seul endroit où j'ai dévié était les charnières pour monter la vitre latérale du cockpit où j'ai utilisé 2 plaques de charnière 1x2 au lieu d'une plaque de charnière 1x4 afin de pouvoir l'obtenir dans DBG.

Je file voir la partie 2 mercredi prochain, IMAX bien sûr. Je pense que la partie 3, Messie, sera inévitable car la partie 2 a des critiques incroyables, donc tant que les retours au box-office sont bons, elle sera réalisée.

S'ils doivent faire un autre set Dune, la seule chose que je voudrais serait un Sandworm.

It's beautiful like that, congratulations.

I'm about to order mine. Could you share with us the list of parts you modified? I started to do it, but maybe I'm changing totally hidden parts...

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Hopping on here to just express what many of you have already said - the Ornithopter is incredible, Dune 2 was breathtaking, and WE WANT MORE DUNE LEGO!!!!!! 

If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say the Ornithopter is flying off shelves everywhere. The hype for Dune is just too real atm and the value of the set is really tremendous. Lego could certainly see this and extend Dune into it's own theme in the future, hopefully sooner rather than in correspondence of the release of Messiah in god knows how long.

Certainly biased as a minifigure collector, but a Dune CMF would be great in part because I just don't know how many other sets you can get out of these two films. I would really love Maud'Dib version of Paul, Stilgar, Feyd Rautha, Rabban, Emperor, and Princess Irulan figures still! 

Also, put Paul's head on Kynes's body. I think he looks much cooler like this

IMG_2534 Medium.jpeg

As for a Maud'Dib purist upgrade, this head, though pricey, would look fantastic

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On 3/5/2024 at 4:19 PM, alpinesman said:

It's beautiful like that, congratulations.

I'm about to order mine. Could you share with us the list of parts you modified? I started to do it, but maybe I'm changing totally hidden parts...

I went for as much modification as possible replacing most if not all of the parts that weren’t DBG or Black, even replacing some LBG parts.

Here is my full list, listed by part colour. The list shows part (id in brackets), number of, colour I changed to, and then step numbers where the change occurred.

thankfully I already had 3L black pins as they’re expensive

sorry for the formatting, cut and paste from IOS Notes and I can’t work out how to change font on my iphone

White

Double split connector (69819) x2 - Black - 103

Brick 1x2 studs on side (11211) x5 - Black - 94,95,245

Axle pin without friction x6 - no changed

Liftarm 1x3 (32523) x4 - Black - 17,52,86

Plate 1x4 (3710) x10 - DBG - 115,118,161,189,202,324,326,336,338

Liftarm Thin 1x5 Axle Holes (11478) x2 - Black - 67

Technic Brick 1x6 (3894) x2 - Black - 11

Liftarm 1x9 (40490) x2 - DBG - 144,151

 

Tan

Pin 3/4 (32002) x4 - DBG - 99,295

Axle pin no friction (3749) x6 - not changed

Bracket 1x2x2 (44728) x1 - Black - 237

Plate 1x3 (3623) x8 - DBG - 42,76,96,320,324,336

Plate 2x3 (3021) x3 - DBG - 9,89,93

Plate 2x3 (3021) x1 - Black - 239

Brick 1x4 studs on side (30414) x4 - DBG - 45,48,79,82

Arch (3659) x5 - DBG - 139,156

Tile 1x4 (2431) x2 - Black - 159

Slope 2x4 (3037) x1 - Black - 115

Plate 1x10 (4477) x2 - DBG - 45,79

 

Red

Bush (3713) x7 - Black or LBG - 54,61,69,73,126

1/2 Friction Pin (89678) x30 - DBG - 4,5,6,11,13,16,44,48,51,83,

140,141,143,147,148,150,284,292

Friction Pin with Tow Ball (6628a) x20 - Black - 111,112,113,114,145,152,

175,176,177,178,314,315,317,318

Bar with 1x1 Round Stud (32828) - Black - 243

Axle 2L Notched (32062) x31 - Black - 18,67,99,103,104,111,112,113,114,

123,124,175,176,177,178,303,311

Brick 1x2 (3004) x7 - Black - 13,156,237,241,243,248

Brick 1x2 with Hole and Plate (73109) x1 - LBG - 91

Liftarm L Shape 2x4 (32140) x2 - Black - 52,86

Axle 6L (3706) x3 - Black - 61,69,106

Tile 2x6 (69729) x1 - Black - 167

Plate 2x6 (3795) x2 - Black - 11,12

Axle 10L (3737) x1 - Black - 54

 

Blue

Friction Axle Pin (43093) x7 - not changed

Friction Pin 3L (6558) x20 - Black - 6,14,111,112,113,114,175,176,177,178,

233,236,297,305,321

 

Yellow

Bush 1/2 (4265c) x4 - LBG - 61,69

Brick 1x1 with Hole (6541) x10 - Black - 115,117,130,134,219,225

Brick 1x1 with Hole (6541) x4 - BDG - 184,187,197,200

Plate 1x2 with Pin Hole Top (11458) x1 - Black - 18

Axle 3L (4519) x8 - LBG - 314,315,317,318

Liftarm T shape (60484) x1 - Black - 67

Brick 1x3 (3622) x2 - Black - 219,225

Liftarm Thin 1x6 (32063) x2 - Black - 101, 102

 

Orange

Bar 1L with Tow Ball (22484) x4 - Dark Bluish Grey - Stages 122, 137, 138

 

Lime

Brick 1x2 (3004) x4 - Black - 47, 82, 262, 271

Plate 1x2 (3023) x1 - Black - 160

Plate 2x2 (3022) x3 - Black - 13,14,322

Plate 2x2 (3022) x2 - DBG - 333,345

 

LBG

Bush 1/2 (4265c) x4 - not changed

Bush (3713) x3 - Black - 99,107

Round 2x2 Hole (15535) x1 - Black - 11

Liftarm 1x2 (60483) x2 - Black - 285,293

Technic connector double 3L (32557) - Black - 67

Brick 2x2 studs on side (22885) - Black - 247

Brick 1x2 with hole (3700) x8 - DBG - 13,182,195,232,233,235,236

Panel (87552) x2 - Black - 235

Connector round 2l (62462) x2 - Black - 117

Liftarm crank (61408) x2 - Black - 72,73

Axle and Pin Connector 3L (42003) x8 - Black - 111,112,113,114,

175,176,177,178

Axle connector 3L (26287) x2 - DBG - 131

Slope curved 3 (50950) x1 - Black - 18

Hinge plate (44568) x2 > 44567b x4 - DBG - 325,337

Liftarm thin 6 (32063) x2 - Black - 296

Liftarm 13 (41239) x1 - Black - 61

 

Pink

Plate Round 1x1 (4073) x2 - DBG - 331,343

 

Nougat

Oval 1x2 (1126) x1 - Black - 51

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On 3/6/2024 at 5:12 PM, Seasider said:

I went for as much modification as possible replacing most if not all of the parts that weren’t DBG or Black, even replacing some LBG parts.

 

O wow, you really went all out. I have ordered more than the regular pins, but I haven't ordered as much as you listed.

I will do a small review of the set with color replacement.

On 3/2/2024 at 9:10 PM, Seasider said:

Just finished my Ornithopter, I did quite a large recolour but kept the construction the same as the original.

53563745148_7d08f85deb_b.jpg

The only place I deviated was the hinges to mount the cockpit side glass where I used 2 1x2 hinge plates instead of a 1x4 hinge plate so I could get this in DBG.

I’m off to see part 2 next Wednesday, IMAX of course. I think Part 3, Messiah, will be inevitable as Part 2 has amazing reviews so as long as the box office returns are good it’ll be made.

If they’re to do another Dune set then only thing I’d want would be a Sandworm.

This sure looks good!

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22 minutes ago, Jim said:

O wow, you really went all out. I have ordered more than the regular pins, but I haven't ordered as much as you listed.

I will do a small review of the set with color replacement.

This sure looks good!

Yeah it annoyed me that you could see tan, white and even lbg when looking around the model so I tried to convert as much to dbg or black as possible, trying to choose the colour based off where it is on the model. Makes the model look a lot more finished. Things like the red underneath the cockpit annoyed me.

as the most basic I’d switch out I’d switch the ball pins to black, any 2l axles to black and also the lbg perpendicular connectors on the wing roots to black.

 

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On 3/2/2024 at 11:16 PM, BrickBob Studpants said:

Well, Messiah has none of the really weird stuff yet. That only happens from the fourth book onwards :laugh_hard: That‘s probably why Villeneuve insists that he doesn‘t want to tackle anything beyond Messiah :laugh:

I actually don't understand while he would not do also a movie based on the Children of Dune, it is excellent too. It was included in the mini-series which were not bad considering their budget.

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On 06/03/2024 at 17:12, Seasider said:

J'ai opté pour autant de modifications que possible en remplaçant la plupart, sinon la totalité, des pièces qui n'étaient pas DBG ou Black, remplaçant même certaines pièces LBG.

Voici ma liste complète, classée par couleur de pièce. La liste affiche la pièce (identifiant entre parenthèses), le numéro, la couleur vers laquelle j'ai changé, puis les numéros d'étape où le changement s'est produit.

heureusement, j'avais déjà des épingles noires 3L car elles sont chères

désolé pour le formatage, couper et coller depuis IOS Notes et je n'arrive pas à comprendre comment changer la police sur mon iPhone

Blanc

Connecteur double split (69819) x2 - Noir - 103

Brique 1x2 plots sur côté (11211) x5 - Noir - 94,95,245

Axe d'essieu sans friction x6 - non changé

Bras de levage 1x3 (32523) x4 - Noir - 17,52,86

Plaque 1x4 (3710) x10 - DBG - 115,118,161,189,202,324,326,336,338

Liftarm Thin 1x5 Trous d'Axe (11478) x2 - Noir - 67

Brique Technique 1x6 (3894) x2 - Noir - 11

Bras de levage 1x9 (40490) x2 - DBG - 144,151

 

bronzer

Goupille 3/4 (32002) x4 - DBG - 99 295

Axe d'essieu sans friction (3749) x6 - non changé

Support 1x2x2 (44728) x1 - Noir - 237

Plaque 1x3 (3623) x8 - DBG - 42,76,96,320,324,336

Plaque 2x3 (3021) x3 - DBG - 9,89,93

Plaque 2x3 (3021) x1 - Noir - 239

Brique 1x4 plots sur côté (30414) x4 - DBG - 45,48,79,82

Arche (3659) x5 - DBG - 139 156

Tuile 1x4 (2431) x2 - Noir - 159

Pente 2x4 (3037) x1 - Noir - 115

Plaque 1x10 (4477) x2 - DBG - 45,79

 

Rouge

Douille (3713) x7 - Noir ou LBG - 54,61,69,73,126

1/2 Goupille de Friction (89678) x30 - DBG - 4,5,6,11,13,16,44,48,51,83,

140 141 143 147 148 150 284 292

Goupille de friction avec boule de remorquage (6628a) x20 - Noir - 111,112,113,114,145,152,

175 176 177 178 314 315 317 318

Barre avec goujon rond 1x1 (32828) - Noir - 243

Axe 2L Cranté (32062) x31 - Noir - 18,67,99,103,104,111,112,113,114,

123 124 175 176 177 178 303 311

Brique 1x2 (3004) x7 - Noir - 13 156 237 241 243 248

Brique 1x2 avec Trou et Plaque (73109) x1 - LBG - 91

Bras de levage forme L 2x4 (32140) x2 - Noir - 52,86

Axe 6L (3706) x3 - Noir - 61,69,106

Tuile 2x6 (69729) x1 - Noir - 167

Plaque 2x6 (3795) x2 - Noir - 11,12

Axe 10L (3737) x1 - Noir - 54

 

Bleu

Axe d'essieu à friction (43093) x7 - non modifié

Goupille de friction 3L (6558) x20 - Noir - 6,14,111,112,113,114,175,176,177,178,

233 236 297 305 321

 

Jaune

Douille 1/2 (4265c) x4 - LBG - 61,69

Brique 1x1 avec Trou (6541) x10 - Noir - 115,117,130,134,219,225

Brique 1x1 avec trou (6541) x4 - BDG - 184,187,197,200

Plaque 1x2 avec dessus à trou d'épingle (11458) x1 - Noir - 18

Axe 3L (4519) x8 - LBG - 314 315 317 318

Bras de levage en forme de T (60484) x1 - Noir - 67

Brique 1x3 (3622) x2 - Noir - 219 225

Bras de levage fin 1x6 (32063) x2 - Noir - 101, 102

 

Orange

Barre 1L avec Boule de Remorquage (22484) x4 - Gris Bleuté Foncé - Stages 122, 137, 138

 

Citron vert

Brique 1x2 (3004) x4 - Noir - 47, 82, 262, 271

Plaque 1x2 (3023) x1 - Noir - 160

Plaque 2x2 (3022) x3 - Noir - 13,14,322

Plaque 2x2 (3022) x2 - DBG - 333 345

 

LBG

Douille 1/2 (4265c) x4 - non changé

Douille (3713) x3 - Noir - 99 107

Trou Rond 2x2 (15535) x1 - Noir - 11

Bras de levage 1x2 (60483) x2 - Noir - 285 293

Connecteur Technic double 3L (32557) - Noir - 67

Brique 2x2 plots sur côté (22885) - Noir - 247

Brique 1x2 avec trou (3700) x8 - DBG - 13,182,195,232,233,235,236

Panneau (87552) x2 - Noir - 235

Connecteur rond 2l (62462) x2 - Noir - 117

Manivelle de bras de levage (61408) x2 - Noir - 72,73

Connecteur d'essieu et de broche 3L (42003) x8 - Noir - 111,112,113,114,

175 176 177 178

Connecteur d'essieu 3L (26287) x2 - DBG - 131

Pente courbée 3 (50950) x1 - Noir - 18

Plaque charnière (44568) x2 > 44567b x4 - DBG - 325 337

Bras de levage fin 6 (32063) x2 - Noir - 296

Bras de levage 13 (41239) x1 - Noir - 61

 

Rose

Plaque Ronde 1x1 (4073) x2 - DBG - 331 343

 

Nougat

Ovale 1x2 (1126) x1 - Noir - 51

Thank you very much for all these details. I just received my ornithopter. I will purchase the necessary parts !

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