[Software] LDCad - LDraw cad

[Alasdair Ryan]

I wanted to give LDCad a go today,but after installing the newest version and locating the ldraw file I just got a load of incomplete part primitives.

I tried tweaking the part bin load dir too with no luck.

Edited August 25, 2015 by Alasdair Ryan

[Philo]

According to your screen shot, your ldraw library is located in C:\Program Files(x86)\LDCad\ldraw. In this place you should then find a 'parts' folder (with parts), itself containing a 's' folder (with subparts). It should also have a 'p' folder containing the primitives, itself containing a '48' folder with high res. primitives.

[Alasdair Ryan]

Yes,correct they are all there in that dictionary in the cosponsoring folders.

Here is a screen shot of me trying to load a basic part.

Edited August 25, 2015 by Alasdair Ryan

[Zimix]

Do you have a windows system variable LDRAWDIR defined ? and pointing to the same directory C:\Program Files(x86)\LDCad\ldraw or does it point somewhere else ?

[Alasdair Ryan]

I have it defined to the same directory,is there any chance of it being a problem relating to windows 10?

[legolijntje]

I have it defined to the same directory,is there any chance of it being a problem relating to windows 10?

I don't think so, it works fine here...

[Alasdair Ryan]

I don't think so, it works fine here...

Is there any major difference how your parts directory is defined to mine?

[legolijntje]

I can't see any real difference, except that my parts library is located a little different than yours. That shouldn't matter though. Still, you could try to move the parts library out of LDCad's own folder, maybe there's a bug

Have you tried running LDCad as administrator?

[barnylego]

The undocking of the colour and parts bins is a very useful:: Is there a way to show them seperately on one screen of an extended display, with the other used just for building. I cannot move them beyond the programme bounderies,even if i extend the display onto the left hand screen.Any ideas would be appreciated--thanks

[Alasdair Ryan]

I can't see any real difference, except that my parts library is located a little different than yours. That shouldn't matter though. Still, you could try to move the parts library out of LDCad's own folder, maybe there's a bug

Have you tried running LDCad as administrator?

I have tired that,still no luck.

[roland]

I wanted to give LDCad a go today,but after installing the newest version and locating the ldraw file I just got a load of incomplete part primitives.

I tried tweaking the part bin load dir too with no luck.

If the folder pointer to contains the parts and p and folders which in turn hold 1000's of .dat's all should indeed be ok, unless there are some weird user read rights active. Have you tried putting the complete.zip contents in e.g. my documents instead?

Could you send me the contents of the "%appdata%\LDCad\logs" folder as those files should shine some light on what's going on during loading.

An alternative could be using the new 1.5 alpha version so you could try using complete.zip without having to unpacking it.

[Alasdair Ryan]

If the folder pointer to contains the parts and p and folders which in turn hold 1000's of .dat's all should indeed be ok, unless there are some weird user read rights active. Have you tried putting the complete.zip contents in e.g. my documents instead?

I will try the my documents thing.....

Could you send me the contents of the "%appdata%\LDCad\logs" folder as those files should shine some light on what's going on during loading.

Yes here.

An alternative could be using the new 1.5 alpha version so you could try using complete.zip without having to unpacking it.

I am using the newest version.

Update:

.

The documents thing does not work.

There seems to be some interesting stuff going on in these logs which may explain the problem.

00057 | 2015-08-25_18:07:29 | Progress | LDraw manager initialization | Loading color definition files.
00058 | 2015-08-25_18:07:29 | Warning | LDraw manager initialization | No color definition files known, will try to auto detect.
00059 | 2015-08-25_18:07:29 | Progress | Locating LDConfig.ldr | Starting
00060 | 2015-08-25_18:07:29 | Error | Locating LDConfig.ldr | Not found
00061 | 2015-08-25_18:07:29 | Progress | Locating LDConfig.ldr | done (failed).

01093 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Could not locate "41677.dat".
01094 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Could not locate "32523.dat".
01095 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Could not locate "32270.dat".
01096 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Could not locate "87761.dat".
01097 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Could not locate "32017.dat".
01098 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Could not locate "2780.dat".
01099 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Could not locate "3068b.dat".
01100 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | PNG file load | C:\Users\alasdair\AppData\Roaming\LDCad\gui\default\partBin_up.png | Starting
01101 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | PNG file load | C:\Users\alasdair\AppData\Roaming\LDCad\gui\default\partBin_up.png | done (succes).
01102 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | Prepping font face for "partBin_partCntS1" | Starting
01103 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | Prepping font face for "partBin_partCntS1" | Trying "DejaVuSans" at 16
01104 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Prepping font face for "partBin_partCntS1" | Could not locate font file for "DejaVuSans"
01105 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | Prepping font face for "partBin_partCntS1" | Trying "FreeSans" at 16
01106 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Prepping font face for "partBin_partCntS1" | Could not locate font file for "FreeSans"
01107 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | Prepping font face for "partBin_partCntS1" | Trying "verdana" at 16
01108 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Info	 | Prepping font face for "partBin_partCntS1" | Using previous prepped font face "C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\verdana.ttf" at 16px
01109 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | Prepping font face for "partBin_partCntS1" | done.
01110 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | Prepping font face for "partBin_search" | Starting
01111 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | Prepping font face for "partBin_search" | Trying "DejaVuSans" at 16
01112 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Prepping font face for "partBin_search" | Could not locate font file for "DejaVuSans"
01113 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | Prepping font face for "partBin_search" | Trying "FreeSans" at 16
01114 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Warning | Prepping font face for "partBin_search" | Could not locate font file for "FreeSans"
01115 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | Prepping font face for "partBin_search" | Trying "verdana" at 16
01116 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Info	 | Prepping font face for "partBin_search" | Using previous prepped font face "C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\verdana.ttf" at 16px
01117 | 2015-08-25_18:07:30 | Progress | Prepping font face for "partBin_search" | done.
01118 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | Prepping font face for "guiLabel_defCap" | Starting
01119 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | Prepping font face for "guiLabel_defCap" | Trying "DejaVuSans" at 18
01120 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Warning | Prepping font face for "guiLabel_defCap" | Could not locate font file for "DejaVuSans"
01121 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | Prepping font face for "guiLabel_defCap" | Trying "FreeSans" at 18
01122 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Warning | Prepping font face for "guiLabel_defCap" | Could not locate font file for "FreeSans"
01123 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | Prepping font face for "guiLabel_defCap" | Trying "verdana" at 18
01124 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Info	 | Prepping font face for "guiLabel_defCap" | Using previous prepped font face "C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\verdana.ttf" at 18px
01125 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | Prepping font face for "guiLabel_defCap" | done.
01126 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | PNG file load | C:\Users\alasdair\AppData\Roaming\LDCad\gui\default\editor_docInfo.png | Starting
01127 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | PNG file load | C:\Users\alasdair\AppData\Roaming\LDCad\gui\default\editor_docInfo.png | done (succes).
01128 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | Prepping font face for "compass_text" | Starting
01129 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | Prepping font face for "compass_text" | Trying "DejaVuSans" at 18
01130 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Warning | Prepping font face for "compass_text" | Could not locate font file for "DejaVuSans"
01131 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | Prepping font face for "compass_text" | Trying "FreeSans" at 18
01132 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Warning | Prepping font face for "compass_text" | Could not locate font file for "FreeSans"
01133 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | Prepping font face for "compass_text" | Trying "verdana" at 18
01134 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Info	 | Prepping font face for "compass_text" | Using previous prepped font face "C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\verdana.ttf" at 18px
01135 | 2015-08-25_18:07:34 | Progress | Prepping font face for "compass_text" | done.
01136 | 2015-08-25_18:07:46 | Warning | Could not locate "40490.dat".
01137 | 2015-08-25_18:07:46 | Warning | Could not locate "32138.dat".
01138 | 2015-08-25_18:07:52 | Warning | Could not locate "61409.dat".
01139 | 2015-08-25_18:07:52 | Warning | Could not locate "2444.dat".
01140 | 2015-08-25_18:07:57 | Warning | Could not locate "3623.dat".
01141 | 2015-08-25_18:07:57 | Warning | Could not locate "48452.dat".
01142 | 2015-08-25_18:07:57 | Warning | Could not locate "32034.dat".
01143 | 2015-08-25_18:07:57 | Warning | Could not locate "32526.dat".
01144 | 2015-08-25_18:07:57 | Warning | Could not locate "4274.dat".
01145 | 2015-08-25_18:07:57 | Warning | Could not locate "6558.dat".
01146 | 2015-08-25_18:08:01 | Warning | Could not locate "6632.dat".

Edited August 25, 2015 by Alasdair Ryan

[roland]

The font messages are normal but it seems it can only load a handfull of files from the LDraw library.

I think you might have a old/wrong library installed maybe even just a patch as all part that do load seem to be of 2005. You can check by looking at the amount of files in the parts folder, there should be about 11.000 of them.

The correct library zip is here:

http://www.ldraw.org/download/get/complete/88.html

[Alasdair Ryan]

The library came with your latest version,but I will try adding the newest Ldraw library.

[roland]

I don't pack the library with the LDCad setup, it must always be installed separately (unless you used the LDraw AIOI?)

[Alasdair Ryan]

Fixed It was the library due to the library being installed,I did try the AlOI version and the same thing happened.

You should pack the Ldraw library and just give a option of installing/updating it,SR3D came with its own parts.

[roland]

Fixed It was the library due to the library being installed,I did try the AlOI version and the same thing happened.

You should pack the Ldraw library and just give a option of installing/updating it,SR3D came with its own parts.

Glad to hear it's working now. I don't pack the library because it changes now and then, it is also shared between all the LDraw tools you might use on your pc.

The undocking of the colour and parts bins is a very useful:: Is there a way to show them seperately on one screen of an extended display, with the other used just for building. I cannot move them beyond the programme bounderies,even if i extend the display onto the left hand screen.Any ideas would be appreciated--thanks

Currently there is only one main program window, and all the 3D (including the sub windows) must reside in it. You can however resize the program window it self to span multiple monitors but it probably only works if it's a single (dual head) graphics card and not two different ones.

I do hope to add multiple main window support at some point though.

[barnylego]

Thanks for your reply.I will have to wait for an update as my graphics card will not support your suggestion.--Great program!

[roland]

I've release 1.5 Beta 1,

It features a LDraw source window and many many improvements.

See also

http://forums.ldraw.org/read.php?11,17514,17514#msg-17514

As always I'm open to all feedback/questions/suggestions.

[nickless]

I'm getting this really strange bug in LDCad 1.5 Beta 1:

It seems to be affecting one .ldr model file that I'm using as a sub-model. Whenever I edit that file, a few seconds later I'm getting a message that this file has been changed and LDCad is asking me to reload it. When I do, random parts are missing.

So far, it seems to be affecting only one simple file, but I'm kind of scared this bug might affect other, more complex files in the future.

System:

LDCad 1.5 Beta 1, clean install in an empty folder

Windows 10

[roland]

Did you save it yourself just before? Or is it using some special (virtual) file location?

Could you send me the logs folder content (please be sure it happened in the last three program sessions) so I can check what it's doing as a result of an (unrelated) external change.

[nickless]

The file was saved by hand in the same subfolder as all my other submodels.

Right now I can't give you the log files because for no apparent reason, everything works the way it is supposed to... I hope it stays that way, but I will keep an eye on it.

[nickless]

What happened to ldraw.org?

Anyway, I found another bug that is making LDCad crash:

When you hover the top of the part bin and press the keys 1 to 6, LDCad is switching to the respective tab in the part bin view the it's supposed to. However, if you press 7, 8 or 9, the program crashes. This happens easily if you want to enter a filter text and don't quite hit the right input area (and especially if you haven't saved your model for some time...).

/edit: Do you think an autosave function would be a good thing? Something that saves the model every x minutes or even after every edit?

Edited October 15, 2015 by nickless

[roland]

What happened to ldraw.org?

The main site has some software problems, the maintainer is working on it.

However, if you press 7, 8 or 9, the program crashes. This happens easily if you want to enter a filter text and don't quite hit the right input area (and especially if you haven't saved your model for some time...).

This is the result of a dropped feature I was considering (variable view count), I'll fix it for the next one. Thanks for reporting.

Do you think an autosave function would be a good thing? Something that saves the model every x minutes or even after every edit?

This was actually planned as a minor feature for Beta 2 but I'm knee deep in a couple of stability issues at the moment, so maybe beta 3 :)

[nickless]

Thanks!

I did have problems with files not being saved today again as well. When I look at the logs, this is what I can find concerning the submodel in question:

08225 | 2015-10-15_20:07:36 | Progress | LDraw file save | C:\LDraw\Model\subs\~Achse_H_LS_S.ldr | Starting

08226 | 2015-10-15_20:07:36 | Progress | LDraw file save | C:\LDraw\Model\subs\~Achse_H_LS_S.ldr | Shadow content has changes, saving to ""

08227 | 2015-10-15_20:07:36 | Error | LDraw file save | C:\LDraw\Model\subs\~Achse_H_LS_S.ldr | Could not open or write to file.

08228 | 2015-10-15_20:07:36 | Progress | LDraw file save | C:\LDraw\Model\subs\~Achse_H_LS_S.ldr | Done

I can't think of any reason why LDCad can't write to that file. I checked if it's write-protected (it's not) and Windows is showing the 'date modified' at the time LDCad was supposed to save the file.