LEGO Star Wars Set Discussion 2025 - READ FIRST POST!!!

[BrickPrick]

5 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

Dellow felegates. What? How can you do this? This is outrageous, it's unfair. How can you be a driving factor of your multi-billion economic environment and not be treated like a master costumer? That's... why i'm here. As you and the consumer share a symbiont circle, what happens to one of you, affects the other, you must understand this. 

Though you were right about one thing, beloved Billund billionaire bubble, the negotiations were short. Not just for the men. But the woman and children, too! They are like cash cows to you... and you exploited them like cash cows! Because these adult collector federation types are cowards and Republic credits are no good out here.

You were the chosen company! It was said that you would destroy bad business design decisions, not join them. You were to bring balance to big flagship sets, not leave them in plastic pieces. You were my brother from another mother, Lego. I loved you. But i don't know you anymore! You are breaking my heart. You are going down a path i can't follow. Because of what you've done. What you plan to do. Sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me. Well, if it works...

This miserable meme machine monster concludes my daily silly game of asking Lego not to _____ the upcoming Turbo Tank. Will still want to get a better look at this set, but yeah... gonna be a deep, deep discount as expected. The downscaling is just too much for this one. Especially at this premium price. You make it 100 bucks and it suddenly looks like a solid offering. Or even 120 bucks because it's Lego Star Wars. But 160 bucks is as greedy as this thing is tiny. 

4 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

Sadly, Jango’s Slave One was never going to be like the 2019 version. It pairs nicely with Obi-Wan’s JSF. 

Yep, considering the both much lower piece count and price point compared to the 20th anniversary model, how anyone could have thought otherwise is beyond me. 

3 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah it's an easy pass for me, I do like those galactic marines though.

That's kinda admirable. It certainly won't be an easy pass for me. 

3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I used to be a big critic of this year’s offerings, but I’ve changed my mind, and it’s not just because of Babu Frik (tough it does help considerably)  The new Clone minifigs, especially the new pieces, all look fantastic and the builds, while on the small side, are all really well realised.

My main criticism was always the lack of variety, which is still true in a way, but actually seeing the sets made me get over that  The other early point of criticism was my feared lack of new pieces, and OH BOY was I wrong about that!

It more than ever seems like minifigures got a much bigger budget than the sets themselves. Which makes sense in the way that Lego wants to protect their precious minifigs at all costs. It's what it most differentiates from other market competitors, who catched up to (if not exeeded Lego) in terms of quality standards for building bricks.

Yeah, the lack of variety across sub-themes is of course a problem in the long run. However, seeing so many new legions and clones released all at once and not an awful amount of them left at this point, it makes me confident that Lego is gonna change ship sooner rather than later. Like i would be shocked if they were to rinse and repeat this year for 2026. 

And yep... i count seven new head/helmet molds alone. In hindsight, really funny how for the longest time it was believed there would be next to no new pieces manufactured for this year. 

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I hope so. This is a battle of the wills between me and Lego. And it’s therefore a good thing I’m a huge Green Lantern fanboy. /s

The thing is... Let's assume Lego didn't plan to release any more Andor sets for another follow-up wave like they didn't do for the first season. But now they changed their mind due to the critical acclaim and popularity of the second season. Considering sets often take multiple years from concept to creation, wouldn't it be too late for a hypothetical TIE Avenger in 2026? And if so, would they take the risk of releasing it 2027 anyways? Or does this not matter at all, since we know for a fact there have been exceptions of sets with rather short development cycles like the Mando Starfighter? I would like to hear your thoughts on this scenario.

@Meaf Yes, save to say, this is a good time for any Lego Star Wars fan of the prequel era. I definitely agree about the remake relevancy for so many vehicles. And yeah, they went all-in on the minifigures this time around, so some sets suffered scale-wise because of that. Flagship sets are just not what they used to be anymore. But i still gotta appreciate the strides made forwards as far as minifigure qualities are concerned. 

Edited June 4 by BrickPrick

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, CallumPears said:

That's-... man 

I really can't wait to see Jang's video on it, I want to see if he acknowledges it and therefore the existence of his evil twin.

37 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

This miserable meme machine monster concludes my daily silly game of asking Lego not to _____ the upcoming Turbo Tank. Will still want to get a better look at this set, but yeah... gonna be a deep, deep discount as expected. The downscaling is just too much for this one. Especially at this premium price. You make it 100 bucks and it suddenly looks like a solid offering. Or even 120 bucks because it's Lego Star Wars. But 160 bucks is as greedy as this thing is tiny. 

It more than ever seems like minifigures got a much bigger budget than the sets themselves. Which makes sense in the way that Lego wants to protect their precious minifigs at all costs. It's what it most differentiates from other market competitors, who catched up to (if not exeeded Lego) in terms of quality standards for building bricks.

Yup. Even with the downscaling, if it was more detailed or at least AS detailed as the last one, I wouldn't mind. But there's significant chunks of 2010-level detailing here on a 2025-priced set and the size isn't remotely there either. It's like lego had a set of tradeoffs but instead of trading off just chose the worse outcome for every category. (Except one, as you say)

Yup. And they're not even exceptional- they're good, to be sure, but the galactic marine helmet is the only part that's anything above average for the theme. But it does speak to lego increasingly viewing their system sets as vessels to release clone troopers in, as does the skyrocketing price- they know the MandRs of the world, and more importantly their young followers, just want the clone minifigures, and will pay exorbitant prices for it as much as they grumble. I hope they're overestimating how big a fraction of the market that is, but they clearly think it's a pretty significant percentage.

[Nobricksleft]

Design for CTT and MTT is great, they both look like midi scale sets with interior and playable functions. 8/10

V19 will go well alongside the ARC-170 but the fuselage accuracy was probably sacrificed for sturdiness. Slave 1 seems to be a recolor of Boba's, maybe both will good together? 7/10

Spicy speeder colors burn my retinas, although the T47 shaping is slowly improving. 6/10 until we get Hoth colors without the A-Wing fins.

Will get hate for this but the buildable ewok is cute. 

Edited June 4 by Nobricksleft

[Darth_Bane13]

3 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

That's kinda admirable. It certainly won't be an easy pass for me. 

It's the price that kills it for me, if it was $120 I'd probably buy it.

[CloneCommando99]

6 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

The thing is... Let's assume Lego didn't plan to release any more Andor sets for another follow-up wave like they didn't do for the first season. But now they changed their mind due to the critical acclaim and popularity of the second season. Considering sets often take multiple years from concept to creation, wouldn't it be too late for a hypothetical TIE Avenger in 2026? And if so, would they take the risk of releasing it 2027 anyways? Or does this not matter at all, since we know for a fact there have been exceptions of sets with rather short development cycles like the Mando Starfighter? I would like to hear your thoughts on this scenario.

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I would say you'll lose because lego can make green lantern figures, but they seem to be unable to for some reason.

You think I’m crazy? Yes, I am. Revolution is not for the sane.

(Day #41 of Tie Avenger campaigning)

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

*huffs rydo*

Let it in boy! That’s freedom calling! Let it in! Let it run! Let it run wild!!!!!

 

 

How did the Ewok get greenlit? It’s awful even by buildable standards.

[CF Mitch]

15 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

Imagine already having or buying the still available 75333 Obi-Wan's Jedi Starfighter to compliment the upcoming Jango Fett Slave 1, only to end up with a pair of Taun We's.

Right?  
I'd still peg LEGO would have done something like that, though  

But! Glad to see it is indeed Lama Su, and he looks brilliant!

The other minifigures I've been very excited for all look amazing as well (from what we can see from these semi-blurry pics at least).
I'm definitely getting the V19 Torrent. I already have some parts to make purist custom Obi-Wan resembling the CW version more than the TCW.

Not too sure about the MTT and CTT yet. I really only want Bly and Bacara and the Galactic Marines, so I might wait for them to end up on BL (and not be ridiculously priced).

Regards,
Mitch

[MKJoshA]

I love those Galactic Marines. But I can't pay $160 for them. It's essentially a $160 battle-pack. Great figs, with a sub-par side build. Here's hoping they show up in a magazine some day.

The V-19 has always been one of my favorite Clone Wars ships. I'm really excited to see how they pull off the wing function this time. The hydraulics on the last one were so fun. 

The other sets are fun, but overpriced for the most part. And Clone fatigue is real. I think that's going to majorly hurt sales for Lego. I would have been excited about yellow Clones a few years ago. But like many of you, now it's just another thing to collect and it's not as special. 

[Agent Kallus]

Clever to include a yellow helmeted Clone pilot in the V19 that way if you get the yellow clone Battlepacks you can use him as their commander if you didn't get the more expensive MTT 

[BrickPrick]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yup. Even with the downscaling, if it was more detailed or at least AS detailed as the last one, I wouldn't mind. But there's significant chunks of 2010-level detailing here on a 2025-priced set and the size isn't remotely there either. It's like lego had a set of tradeoffs but instead of trading off just chose the worse outcome for every category. (Except one, as you say)

Yup. And they're not even exceptional- they're good, to be sure, but the galactic marine helmet is the only part that's anything above average for the theme. But it does speak to lego increasingly viewing their system sets as vessels to release clone troopers in, as does the skyrocketing price- they know the MandRs of the world, and more importantly their young followers, just want the clone minifigures, and will pay exorbitant prices for it as much as they grumble. I hope they're overestimating how big a fraction of the market that is, but they clearly think it's a pretty significant percentage.

That's the thing about your last part though: Was it "instead" of trading off they chose the worst outcome for every category... or "because" of the tradeoffs that have been made? I'd wager the latter. Today's tradeoff is there are just too many tradeoffs! Which leads to the worst outcome in every other regard, as you said.

I think it depends on the quality bar we are using. Judging by Lego Star Wars standards, i'd say the TCW Obi-Wan is an exceptional minifigure. While many others are good, above average minifigs. If we are going beyond that, like what would be possible with limitless budget or what some customs can bring to the table, then yeah... i agree. Nothing there i would describe as exceptionally well executed. But going from that standard begs the question: How many exceptionally executed minifigure were there ever by Lego? 

6 hours ago, Nobricksleft said:

Will get hate for this but the buildable ewok is cute. 

While i don't care for the buildable characters at all, i have to agree on this one. The face, especially the eyes, actually seems decently build this time. How this is supposed to be worse than Psycho Chewie or Gremlin Yoda is beyond me. 

6 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

It's the price that kills it for me, if it was $120 I'd probably buy it.

Yeah, just as expected another one of these egregiously overpriced sets. But one that can be considered good for what it is on it's own. That's why i will get it later on. Got no worries at all it will reach an appropriate price point. 

2 hours ago, CF Mitch said:

Right?  
I'd still peg LEGO would have done something like that, though  

Like it took them two decades to even do a Kaminoan minifigure in the first place. So doing a repeat of the very first figure just three years after would have been a diabolical disaster. 

[ForgedInLego]

46 minutes ago, MKJoshA said:

I'm really excited to see how they pull off the wing function this time

Don't get your hopes up too high, the side wings look like they're just on Bionicle joints

[sebulba56]

5 hours ago, ForgedInLego said:

Don't get your hopes up too high, the side wings look like they're just on Bionicle joints

I was just gonna say the same. They are obsviously rotating on that type of joint. The set still looks very cool though.

Edited June 4 by sebulba56

[CallumPears]

1 hour ago, ForgedInLego said:

Don't get your hopes up too high, the side wings look like they're just on Bionicle joints

Yeah tbh as long as it still has the feature to fold them up (including the bottom one) I'm fine with it not having the full synchronised feature. As long as they don't just flop around or whatever. 

 

Someone in a YouTube comments section pointed out something I hadn't noticed: the 327th pack includes the new rangefinder on the trooper with the long rifle. Hopefully there will be a couple of spares too (UCS Slave 1 had 2 spares so 3 in total). Glad to see it's already getting made more widely available. 

[mirkwoodspiders]

I had my first LEGO quality control snafu in a while yesterday. Jango's UCS Slave 1 had two #9 bags and zero #6 bags. LEGO is shipping me a new #6 bag, but still pretty annoying. Prices are rising and quality is dropping.

Of all the August sets, I think the V-19 is the only one in which I'm interested. I'm impressed with the minifgs for most of the other sets but don't have the $$ to buy these along with other sets I'm interested in.

Waiting patiently for UCS Death Star news...

[BrickPrick]

3 hours ago, CallumPears said:

Someone in a YouTube comments section pointed out something I hadn't noticed: the 327th pack includes the new rangefinder on the trooper with the long rifle. Hopefully there will be a couple of spares too (UCS Slave 1 had 2 spares so 3 in total). Glad to see it's already getting made more widely available. 

That's neat. And since those kinda accessories usually get spares, i'd say the likelihood for this one is also quite high.

 

What i noticed as well is the 327th Troopers having yellow arms, instead of just Bly, ruins or damages any consistency they established in this decade of bringing back clones in a unified armor design. Standard Troopers got white arms, the specialized unit or leader got colored arms. Obviously not terribly accurate (neither is giving them colored arms to be fair) to the source material, but that's what they rolled with. So just why change it now, Lego? 

Edited June 4 by BrickPrick

[Yperio_Bricks]

11 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

they know the MandRs of the world, and more importantly their young followers, just want the clone minifigures, and will pay exorbitant prices for it as much as they grumble. 

This      

[Darth_Bane13]

We're now going to have both an ARC-170 and V-19 Torrent on shelves with no separatist counterpart like a Vulture Droid or Tri Fighter.

[ArrowBricks]

7 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

That's the thing about your last part though: Was it "instead" of trading off they chose the worst outcome for every category... or "because" of the tradeoffs that have been made? I'd wager the latter. Today's tradeoff is there are just too many tradeoffs! Which leads to the worst outcome in every other regard, as you said.

 

 

Hard to disagree with this - well put. 

1 hour ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

We're now going to have both an ARC-170 and V-19 Torrent on shelves with no separatist counterpart like a Vulture Droid or Tri Fighter.

Fingers crossed! I do think it’s reliant on having 1 or 2 good figures included for these to sell e.g. Separatist Leader, Tactical Droid, exclusive Jedi/Clone etc etc. 

4 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

This      

They’d have made a lot more, if they got the figures nailed though. They lowered the ceiling, considerably. 

Edited June 4 by ArrowBricks

[CF Mitch]

8 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

Like it took them two decades to even do a Kaminoan minifigure in the first place. So doing a repeat of the very first figure just three years after would have been a diabolical disaster. 

True, it definitely would have been terrible for sales of the upcoming Slave 1  
But I'm still kinda surprised, since it's an entirely new mold and all, and LEGO tends to reuse newer molds more often, first.
Maybe this means we'll get a Kamino-based set next year 

Regards,
Mitch

 

[BrickPrick]

1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said:

Hard to disagree with this - well put. 

Thank you. Hey, if you don't mind me asking, do you actually have a Colemon Trebor minifigure in your collection? 

15 minutes ago, CF Mitch said:

True, it definitely would have been terrible for sales of the upcoming Slave 1  
But I'm still kinda surprised, since it's an entirely new mold and all, and LEGO tends to reuse newer molds more often, first.
Maybe this means we'll get a Kamino-based set next year 

Regards,
Mitch

That's true. As much as anyone can criticize Lego's design decisions, they definitely have their clever ways. They obviously know putting this exklusive minifig in there will boost the set sales tremendously. Because i don't think many kids will care about a strange looking character named Lama Su... if they even recognize it. They care about Jango Fett who looks like another Mando and the action the Slave 1 can provide. 

It's obviously going to be a MBS Attack on Kamio set based on TCW season 3. 

Edited June 4 by BrickPrick

[Llewop]

I know the clone fatigue is here but out of genuine genuine curiosity. With regards to P2 clones is there much else they could milk set wise :D. Past few years Lego has been remaking republic vehicles but with new legions, and new colours etc. we haven’t had an AT-AP for a while or the AT-OT but I wouldn’t want one with the kashykk troopers but is there an alternative that hasn’t been done legion wise. 

also the pauldrons they can’t be a one off so would these suit stormtroopers or are there other clones that would benefit from the new piece? Or is it a combo of both? 

the only redeeming grace of the past few years of clone domination is that it has given us new and updated vehicles with new and updated figures. Now I do want to stress I hope this kind of effort goes in to some OT sets but I think the next few years the only kind of OT sets we will get will be linked with Ahsoka and the Mando movie. Which may suck for some but again could give us an opportunity of remakes with new design/colours and figures. 

but looking to the summer I am genuinely buzzing my tits off for how good these sets are. I know the price ain’t great but Argos and Smyths and B&M always have quick sales on LEGO SW sets. Also before someone asks im not a clone bro and I hate the clone wars show. I just like the sets for what they are. 

[CloneCommando99]

7 minutes ago, Llewop said:

I know the clone fatigue is here but out of genuine genuine curiosity. With regards to P2 clones is there much else they could milk set wise :D. Past few years Lego has been remaking republic vehicles but with new legions, and new colours etc. we haven’t had an AT-AP for a while or the AT-OT but I wouldn’t want one with the kashykk troopers but is there an alternative that hasn’t been done legion wise. 

If the Clone Bros bite on the overpriced sets this year… I’d say anything is on the table (which may have some positives) including off the top of my head:

• AT XT
• Falchion Tank
• Republic Attack Shuttle (I would be interested in this one ngl)
• Republic Y-Wing
• Republic Snowspeeder
• AV-7 Anti-vehicle cannon
• Z-95 Headhunter
• Police Gunship (please no, this should go to the empire)
• UT-AT
• SPHAT
• AT OT
• Minifig scale swamp speeder
• Dropship
• Named 501st (Jesse, Kix, etc..)
• Delta Squad
• 442nd, 91st, 104th, 13th…
• Glup Shitto Commanders

And then they could repeat the process with remakes or milk the kriff out of P1.

I sure do hope that the Clone Bros do have some sense of self control this year and at least wait for sales. If Lego gets the idea that Clones sell better than everything else, it’s game over for the theme.

Thankfully some reliable sources on Bricktap are reporting that the U-Wing is selling exceptionally well this year. In Europe particularly. (Tie Avenger And/Or (ANDOR?!!) more Rogue One sets incoming?)

 

19 minutes ago, Llewop said:

also the pauldrons they can’t be a one off so would these suit stormtroopers or are there other clones that would benefit from the new piece? Or is it a combo of both? 

Now I do want to stress I hope this kind of effort goes in to some OT sets but I think the next few years the only kind of OT sets we will get will be linked with Ahsoka and the Mando movie. Which may suck for some but again could give us an opportunity of remakes with new design/colours and figures. 

They’ll work better on stormtroopers since the helmet’s chin will hide the neck bracket.

Same man. The 2HY of 2026 better deliver for OT/ Empire era fans, like they have for TCW fans this year. (Though you probably won’t catch us complaining as much)

 

[Darth_Bane13]

2 hours ago, ArrowBricks said:

Fingers crossed! I do think it’s reliant on having 1 or 2 good figures included for these to sell e.g. Separatist Leader, Tactical Droid, exclusive Jedi/Clone etc etc. 

Perfect opportunity to include Count Dooku

[Llewop]

37 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

If the Clone Bros bite on the overpriced sets this year… I’d say anything is on the table (which may have some positives) including off the top of my head:

• AT XT
• Falchion Tank
• Republic Attack Shuttle (I would be interested in this one ngl)
• Republic Y-Wing
• Republic Snowspeeder
• AV-7 Anti-vehicle cannon
• Z-95 Headhunter
• Police Gunship (please no, this should go to the empire)
• UT-AT
• SPHAT
• AT OT
• Minifig scale swamp speeder
• Dropship
• Named 501st (Jesse, Kix, etc..)
• Delta Squad
• 442nd, 91st, 104th, 13th…
• Glup Shitto Commanders

And then they could repeat the process with remakes or milk the kriff out of P1.

I sure do hope that the Clone Bros do have some sense of self control this year and at least wait for sales. If Lego gets the idea that Clones sell better than everything else, it’s game over for the theme.

Thankfully some reliable sources on Bricktap are reporting that the U-Wing is selling exceptionally well this year. In Europe particularly. (Tie Avenger And/Or (ANDOR?!!) more Rogue One sets incoming?)

 

They’ll work better on stormtroopers since the helmet’s chin will hide the neck bracket.

Same man. The 2HY of 2026 better deliver for OT/ Empire era fans, like they have for TCW fans this year. (Though you probably won’t catch us complaining as much)

 

I don’t mind the clone sets but in moderation and if like they are doing which is new things or remaking but making it a little different. I do want more legions don’t know why it’s stupid they are clones they are all the same just got different armour. But it’s like Jedi star fighters I have a whole rainbow of the bloody things and if Lego made a new one tomorrow in a different colour I’m buying it same as that damn hotrod snowspeeder that’s going next to my hoth and sandspeeder. It’s like Lego knows me they are releasing 4 new castle factions this year for the specific purpose of making me build 4 new armies (they are one faction off and could make a really crap GOT moc lmao).

Thinking for 2026. Even new republic ships there’s an opportunity for a new  Y, A, X and if we are lucky even a B wing. Supposedly Ahsoka 2 has a few big battles in so it’s a chance to get OT ships but with new figures and colours. Like I think I’ve mentioned before guaranteed to get a new AT-AT from the Mando movie. I think 2026 and 2027 will be a big year for new republic/imperial remnant sets and hopefully should be enough to appease OT fans and Mando fans at the same time. 
 

[AD_Bricks]

8 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

What i noticed as well is the 327th Troopers having yellow arms, instead of just Bly, ruins or damages any consistency they established in this decade of bringing back clones in a unified armor design. Standard Troopers got white arms, the specialized unit or leader got colored arms. Obviously not terribly accurate (neither is giving them colored arms to be fair) to the source material, but that's what they rolled with. So just why change it now, Lego? 

Mandr made this exact point in his video talking about the new leaks, but this isn't actually correct. They stopped using coloured arms for troopers like 501st and 212th and CG etc., where they just have small sections of colour on their arms (i.e. just the shoulder pauldron for 501st). The 327th, however, have a full stripe of yellow running down the full length of their arms, which is why they were given yellow arms. This is just like the p1 clone commander that they already made a few years ago, who has a full stripe of colour down the arms and therefore received arms in that colour rather than white, and nobody complained then. Similarly, the 501st jet trooper all the way back in 2020 has blue on the shoulder pauldrons as well as most of the lower half of the arm, and so also received coloured arms rather than white. It's not inconsistent design, it's designed to be consistent with differences present in the source material and it's what they've been doing ever since the clones had their major update in 2020.

TLDR; as with all clones, arm printing would have been better, but giving clones coloured arms when their arms are mostly that colour isn't a new thing.

Edited June 4 by AD_Bricks

[Mandalorianknight]

15 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Let it in boy! That’s freedom calling! Let it in! Let it run! Let it run wild!!!!!

 

How did the Ewok get greenlit? It’s awful even by buildable standards.

Instructions unclear, when I tried let the freedom in (drink gasoline), Saw's partisan (the guy working at the gas station) told me it was bad for me and wouldn't actually turn me into a rebel.

None of the organic buildable ever look remotely good or make any sense, aside from Grogu. They don't sell well either- Chewbacca is probably the worst-selling star wars 18+ set since they started the 18+ gimmick- so I have no idea what inspires lego to pump out more of these. They need characters for RTG season 3, I guess.

12 hours ago, MKJoshA said:

I love those Galactic Marines. But I can't pay $160 for them. It's essentially a $160 battle-pack. Great figs, with a sub-par side build. Here's hoping they show up in a magazine some day.

The V-19 has always been one of my favorite Clone Wars ships. I'm really excited to see how they pull off the wing function this time. The hydraulics on the last one were so fun. 

The other sets are fun, but overpriced for the most part. And Clone fatigue is real. I think that's going to majorly hurt sales for Lego. I would have been excited about yellow Clones a few years ago. But like many of you, now it's just another thing to collect and it's not as special. 

I think it's pretty clear at this point that lego treats any sets involving clone troopers as a battle pack regardless of the cost. Down to having a 33-50% price jump on that 327th pack over a set last year that was essentially the same.

I hope you're right about clone fatigue hurting sales, or I guess that if it happens lego recognizes it. I'm pretty confident the demand isn't there- not that there aren't fans, but that it's not such an overwhelming proportion of the market that it's feasible to make almost every minifig set this year clone based- but I could easily see the sets flopping and lego learning the wrong lessons from it.

12 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

That's the thing about your last part though: Was it "instead" of trading off they chose the worst outcome for every category... or "because" of the tradeoffs that have been made? I'd wager the latter. Today's tradeoff is there are just too many tradeoffs! Which leads to the worst outcome in every other regard, as you said.

I just don't know what tradeoff they made! They aren't more affordable, the sets aren't more detailed, they're not larger, they don't have more figures. The figures are solid, but I wouldn't say they're any better than last year's figure selection, so where did everything else go?

9 hours ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

Prices are rising and quality is dropping.

Of all the August sets, I think the V-19 is the only one in which I'm interested. I'm impressed with the minifgs for most of the other sets but don't have the $$ to buy these along with other sets I'm interested in.

Shout it from the rooftops. I used to not mind if lego messed up in more minor ways- I've said before that I wouldn't even request a new part if one was missing if I already had some in my loose collection to replace it with- but at this point I request a new one every time. It's not about fixing the specific issue with the specific copy. It's about forcing lego to spend more for after-the-fact customer service so they'll start spending more on quality control to avoid it.

As much as I like how fun the Fyrespeeder is, probably the same here. Hopefully Ventress sells for a pretty penny on bricklink so I can chop a bit off the price, even if it is one of the only reasonably priced ones in the wave.

9 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

This      

Just have to vote with our wallets. And with prices like these, it's so much easier to do so! Imagine if the Turbo Tank had been reasonably priced. I might have gotten it.

1 hour ago, AD_Bricks said:

TLDR; as with all clones, arm printing would have been better, but giving clones coloured arms when their arms are mostly that colour isn't a new thing.

Yeah- weird that MandR of all people got this wrong as clone legions aren't all literally palate swaps, they at least change out the decals so there's more/less white/color and in different distributions across the armor.