Crowkillers' 2011 Supercar WIP

[DLuders]

In comment replies to his YouTube video, Crowkillers wrote,

"This car doesn't actually have a Drive train transmission, it is a rerouting function box that alters the rotation and sends it into different directions to operate the different functions, and as far as I know, this is in fact My Design. I am 100% sure that the upcoming Lego 8070 works different than this and it also uses a motor and battery box."

"I spent about 3 months working on this car and although I did get inspired by the upcoming 8070 set, I have done the best that I could to keep this model as different as possible. Sure the functions are similar, but i am sure that Lego has everything done in a completely different way and probably used worm gears to slow things down for the motor."

There are 29 pictures on his Brickshelf gallery.

[Meatman]

I really love what he has done here and I see he changed the spoiler from red to black. It looks even better.

[nico71]

Hello people. I post here because I have recently viewed this on the comment-list on the new supercar of Paul :

Nico71 said...

Your new supercar is ok, but really lacks innovation and originality. People tend to shy away from creations that are a subpar execution of what real Lego sets will be, and you cannot say that you have not seen the 8070 supercar yet because it is on every Lego forum and website and has been for several months. I suggest in the future that you may want to expand your building away from just doing cars because your originality seems to be running out in just one aspect of building. Perhaps you should look into building trial trucks or heavy machine equipment as these will certainly offer more of a challenge than just building cars as I know from personal experience. You do have decent skills with building and perhaps trying out new things will really help you progress.

21 Dec 10 @ 6:24 PM

After this, I receive rude comment and insult. I would like to clarify : it is not me who wrote this comment. Somebody have stolen my identity, there isn't protection for this. So be sure that I respect paul and his work, I like his new supercar beacause it's a great ideas and great breakthrought. I wille never say such thing like this. Also, you see my english is quite bad, the english of this comment is good. I am very angry and very sorry for this, because now people hate me (since 1 month) for a thing a didn't tell and didn't make and sorry because I don't want to offend paul, even if It's not me who wrote this comment.

Paul: please make something, I don't want that appens again. And people please don't hate me, I am just a builder, I will never say such thing like this. Paul : I hope you could restablish the truh.

Regards

Edited January 6, 2011 by nico71

[Sariel]

Well, I think Nico is right. We should not put too much trust into comments at websites that don't require logging in, where everyone can use any name whatsoever. Also, the language is a good point - the person who made that unfortunate comment at Crowkiller's website is clearly more fluent in English that the real Nico is. It looks like somebody is having fun at Nico's expense.

[Anio]

There always will be morons on the Internet... The one who wrotte this is definitely one of them.

If someone could warn Crowkiller about this problem... (by email for example) It is his website, he is the admin, and he has to moderate what people may say on his website.

Nico is fair-play with other builders/MOCers. I hope no one doubts about that.

[Meatman]

I do not see any comments there now, so they must have been deleted. Nico I think it would be best to just delete what was posted in your post here. There is no reason to dwell on this anymore. I have e-mailed Paul earlier about this matter too. Perhaps he didn't even know about it?

[nico71]

It's a good point for me that Paul has deleted this comment. Thanks for your supports, and thank you Paul, to beleive that I am a honest builder, not a jerk.

[rgbrown]

It's a good point for me that Paul has deleted this comment. Thanks for your supports, and thank you Paul, to beleive that I am a honest builder, not a jerk.

I'm sorry you got trolled. I must say when I read that comment (someone linked to it from here recently), I thought that it surely couldn't have been you - seemed completely inconsistent with your postings on here. This is the problem with allowing anonymous comments on websites - they can get completely taken over.

p.s. Loved your hand-powered pneumatic tractor that I saw in the technic challenge final

[rien]

nico71 nr1! no doubts here m8!

[Paul Boratko]

Nico, earlier today I took care of the comments that were left from a few weeks ago. I knew that you probably didn't leave them based off of the style of english that they were posted in. If you remember, last year I also had to delete some comments made by someone who also was using your name. I think that I have an idea of who this guy is, but I can't say anything without 100% certainty. And Anio, you didn't need to keep underlining the words in your post to make it a point that it was my site and I needed to moderate it. In fact I had already taken care of the problem way before you made your post about it. But let me ask you a question, what do you expect me to do? Delete comments that criticize me the minute that they are posted? Or for that fact, why should I delete them at all? Isn't that what blogs with comment features are for? If you feel that pictures of your creations are worth putting out there for the world to see, then you better be ready for the negative comments that may follow, and believe me, I have heard them all... And even in person.

And Nico, if I didn't have respect you, I wouldn't have a link to your SeTechnic forum on my website. If you notice, I only have certain links up for certain sites. In fact your Barracuda is one of my favorite models.

As far as my new car goes, I would like to thank David for posting up a link to the early pictures and video for it. However a few little things have changed in the past few weeks and I am still learning how to properly record and edit video along with still trying to perfect my camera photography skills. I am finally done with it and I am pleased with how it turned out. It is very solid, the body was built with minimal parts, the steering is smooth as can be, and the control box and functions work perfectly. Sure it was inspired immediately after I seen the preliminary pics of the new 8070 Supercar that leaked out, but if you look closely at the 2, it is pretty easy to see that even though a couple of panels are in the same places, everything is at different angles and constructed completely different than the Official model. In fact, I have Comparison Pics HERE. And I can guarantee that my car and Lego's 8070 are 100% different when it comes to mechanical and chassis construction. I am pretty sure that the 8070 uses worm gears to slow down the functions. I dabbled with these, but I did not want to use a motor anyways and worm gears took forever to make things move just by turning knobs. I personally don't like the power functions motors and I hate changing batteries. Yeah I know lego has a rechargeable one...

As far as me changing my building style or moving on to other things... Not going to happen. I love to build studless cars and only cars. I started working on a new truck chassis, but I just don't have the desire to finish it. Actually, I started it before I started on this new car. Some of you need to realize that just because someone only builds in one style doesn't mean that they need to move on to evolve... It isn't like I keep using the same chassis over and over and over again and just change up the body style. Every car I do has a unique suspension and chassis to the last one. And every time that I build something, I look at it and say there is no way that I could do it better.. until I build my next car and realize that there are still leaps and bounds to make when it comes to advanced construction.

In my Opinion, I feel that every new car model that I build vastly improves over the previous one that I had done and I am always coming up with new ideas that could possibly benefit the new builders out there that share my same interests and love for cars.

Edited January 7, 2011 by Paul Boratko

[Anio]

But let me ask you a question, what do you expect me to do? Delete comments that criticize me the minute that they are posted?

No. Create something that requires to log in.

That's all.

[Paul Boratko]

No. Create something that requires to log in.

That's all.

Do you have any clue as to what you are talking about? I have a simplistic website with a simplistic blog option... What am I going to create? I get 200 hits a day and rarely even check the comments section...

Oh, that's right, you were one of my biggest critics over Eric and I selling instructions, because you made and gave whatever instructions that you spent 100's of hours designing to the world for free and thought that we should have been doing the same thing... Guess what? I used the money that I received from selling instructions to keep my site running through 2013 so that I can provide pics, instructions, info, and also links to everyone.

Do you have a link for YOUR website? I would love to see it... Maybe you can show me how a site is supposed to be moderated properly....

[Anio]

Hey, don't be upset.

Do you have any clue as to what you are talking about? I have a simplistic website with a simplistic blog option...

Yeah I know that. Creating a whole new "script" (or whatever) would be complicated. But I guess it is possible to find something already done on the internet, and put it on your website. For example, no one create a forum but take a phpBB and adapt it. :)

Oh, that's right, you were one of my biggest critics over Eric and I selling instructions, because you made and gave whatever instructions that you spent 100's of hours designing to the world for free and thought that we should have been doing the same thing... Guess what? I used the money that I received from selling instructions to keep my site running through 2013 so that I can provide pics, instructions, info, and also links to everyone.

Selling instruction is something I will never understand (some very very rare exceptions are possible, such as for the NK models which are perfect down to the last part).

I get a building instruction for free from CurtisB (Invisible Hand). When he sent the files, I sent him €20.

But I consider I didn't buy the instruction. Because he agrees to share it if someone doesn't send money.

And IMO, that's very different from selling the instruction.

And you get enough money to run your site till 2013 ?

So, I guess that if you had given the instruction for free since the beginning, and waiting "fair-play" people to get money, you would have had enough money every year to run your website. Maybe I'm wrong. Or not.

Do you have a link for YOUR website? I would love to see it... Maybe you can show me how a site is supposed to be moderated properly....

I don't have to moderate my website since I'm the only one who can write on it.

As for the SeTechnic forum, there are several person to run it.

But that's not comparable.

Edited January 7, 2011 by Anio

[Paul Boratko]

I am talking about a small personal website, not one with s forum that requires a registration and e-mail confirmation... There is no script that needs to be or can be written for mine.

Selling instructions is something you'll never understand because apparently you must have no faith in your models. How many technic instructions have you put 100's of hours into and then offered for free? I can't even tell you how many hours I have spent tearing models apart just to send ONE person the exact photo that they were looking for to solve their problem.

And where again have I made reference to your personal website? I must have missed that. It is very apparent that you don't like me and I don't like you.

Hey, don't be upset.

And you get enough money to run your site till 2013 ?

So, I guess that if you had given the instruction for free since the beginning, and waiting "fair-play" people to get money, you would have had enough money every year to run your website. Maybe I'm wrong. Or not.

Yeah... I am sure that if I set up a Paypal link for donations that I would have got enough money to cover the $270 yearly fees. You must be living in another world if you think that would have happened. Plus I compensated Eric for his work. You know, there are so many thieves out there stealing other's work including mine and you have the nerve to criticize me? Buddy, I have done more for the Lego community than you could dream of. I have worked with kids who don't speak a lick of English via e-mail all over the world.

What do you do besides nitpick? I mean seriously, what do you do?

Edited January 7, 2011 by Paul Boratko

[Anio]

First of all,

And where again have I made reference to your personal website? I must have missed that. It is very apparent that you don't like me and I don't like you.

I don't care if you don't like me. But let's be clear : I have nothing against you. :)

And sorry, with the sentence you wrote just before, I thought you were talking about my website. My bad.

I am talking about a small personal website, not one with s forum that requires a registration and e-mail confirmation... There is no script that needs to be or can be written for mine.

Yeah, thatt's why I said it was not comparable.

Otherwise, I think everything is possible. ;)

Selling instructions is something you'll never understand because apparently you must have no faith in your models. How many technic instructions have you put 100's of hours into and then offered for free? I can't even tell you how many hours I have spent tearing models apart just to send ONE person the exact photo that they were looking for to solve their problem.

Oh yes, I have !

I supplied everything a friend needed for him to create building instructions for 2 of my MOCS :

http://www.setechnic.com/notice-ST01-P.html

http://www.setechnic.com/notice-ST03-P.html

And we didn't even wonder if we had to ask some money in exchange of this building instructions.

We give what we do for community ; it is a matter of principles.

Yeah... I am sure that if I set up a Paypal link for donations that I would have got enough money to cover the $270 yearly fees. You must be living in another world if you think that would have happened. Plus I compensated Eric for his work.

Your fees are indeed very high, especially for a "small personnal website", as you said. But I don't know what kind of subscription you need for people to browse your website decently, what is the traffic on your website, and what's the average price of such a subscription in your country.

Here in France, we (SeTechnic) have a dedicated server and a big bandwith (which is necessary) which costs 230€ a year.

You know, there are so many thieves out there stealing other's work including mine and you have the nerve to criticize me? Buddy, I have done more for the Lego community than you could dream of. I have worked with kids who don't speak a lick of English via e-mail all over the world.

What do you do besides nitpick? I mean seriously, what do you do?

I think I do pretty much things for community too.

I run SeTechnic and update his content with reviews of new models (I know official models are not what you really pay attention to but...). When I see the visit counter, I would say that SeTechnic is pretty much appreciated.

Otherwise, I do some UCS MOCs. With the comment I get about them, and without being presumptuous, I would say that they are pretty appreciated too.

Edited January 7, 2011 by Anio

[rien]

I think selling your own made instruktions is not bad not to much do but a little comprimice

An if jou use that money for youre site i think its a good thing to do i belive mthat it are many hours to create that

[Sariel]

I am talking about a small personal website, not one with s forum that requires a registration and e-mail confirmation... There is no script that needs to be or can be written for mine.

You could try Wordpress. It's free and with the variety of plug-ins available you should be able to make it meet your needs.

Yeah... I am sure that if I set up a Paypal link for donations that I would have got enough money to cover the $270 yearly fees. You must be living in another world if you think that would have happened.

I agree with Paul on the costs, apparently servers are very cheap in France, judging from the prices Anio provided. Paul, you could eventually consider Google ads, but they pay only if you have a lot of visitors. I can cover the cost of running my website completely with Google ads, but I have like 4000-5000 hits daily.

What do you do besides nitpick? I mean seriously, what do you do?

I'm sorry to say I have a similar experience with Anio. Anio seems to enjoy criticizing and accusing people. Personally, I have been accused by him of having some shady deals with the Lego company, and he was instructing me on how to build, despite having no Technic MOCs of his own. I was discouraged from visiting Setechnic by this kind of behavior. Paul, don't let him upset you.

Edited January 7, 2011 by Sariel

[DLuders]

Recommend that Crowkillers and Anio communicate in private about their disagreements. This conversation is getting too critical and personal. The Eurobricks Frontpage banner says we're supposed to be "Uniting LEGO Fans Around the World". As the saying goes, one should "Praise in public, and criticize in private."

[Anio]

Troll spotted. :/

[Zerobricks]

Like Dluders said, can we get back on topic! Will you relase instructions for the supercar?

[Sariel]

Troll spotted. :/

No need to be so harsh to yourself, really.

[Paul Boratko]

Like Dluders said, can we get back on topic! Will you relase instructions for the supercar?

I am currently constructing a second model and taking pictures to upload to brickshelf and my site so that anyone who is interested can get a better idea of what I have going on mechanically inside of the car along with detailed building procedures. I really don't have a clue as to where to begin when it comes to making professional looking technic instructions. I honestly don't know how some of you guys do it and I applaud you for your accomplishments. I suppose that if I spent more time working with the CAD program that I could eventually figure it out...

[nico71]

Thanks to delete the rude comment Paul. As I said in the mail, I don't know how to securise the posting on your webiste but I'm sure you will figure out this problem. For you fee, It's awesome, my website cost 50$/year with small 500 visitors a day, but my youtube account remunerate me more than my expectations and cover all lego expenditure (website, set, exhibition). Hosting in USA must be more expensive, so this is you who decide if you sell or not your buildings instructions. As long as you keep up the good work :)

ps : paul : Setechnic is not my webiste, it's nico71.fr my website.

Edited January 7, 2011 by nico71

[Paul Boratko]

The only thing that I have found that I can do is block all comments from everyone. If you look through the history of posts made at my site since I started it, you'll see many rude comments made by people. But that is to be expected. My style of building is not everyone's cup of tea and I realize this. I got a first hand taste of it when I attended Brickworld 2010 in Wheeling, IL last June. I was shocked at the very rude remarks that both guests and other builders had made about my work. I even had Nathanael Kuiper's concept car on display along with my cars. One person there said "This crap shouldn't be in the main room, it should be in the back room with the monster chess board" and his friend said "Or maybe throw it out in the parking lot" and they giggled and walked away... and I was standing right there! Guests would pull there kids away from my table saying "That isn't Lego" or "We didn't come to see that".....

Like I said, you'll have these things happen. Needless to say, I will never attend another show there again. It wasn't a very pleasant experience from the time I left my house for the 10 hour drive until the time I got back home. I did meet some really great people like Bob Kojima and Thomas Mueller, and I got to sign an autograph for a guy that bought a car off of me a few years ago, so that was kind of cool. I also let everyone play with my models and demonstrated how everything worked. I think it kind of bothered some of the other builders because after kids would touch and play with my stuff, then they wanted to play with everyone else's and obviously that wasn't going to happen...

By the way Nico, I added a link on my site to your site.

[TechnicJuan]

Glad to see you posting here Paul! The new model really does look quite amazing and beautiful. Not sure why Anio has been so negative towards you. I think it is a pleasure just having you post here. Also Anio, I am pleased to see that you supply instructions for free, but from what you posted it appears there is quite a difference in complexity between what you have done and what Blakbird has prepared.