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21 replies to this topic  – Started by Bonaparte , Dec 31 2008 01:45 PM

#1 Bonaparte

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 01:45 PM

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About 2 years ago I started working on my French frigate L'Orient. I was never satisfied with the looks of the ship, so somewhere in 2008 I started rebuilding big parts of it. You'll see a lot of changes on the sides of the ship (changed the colors) and you might notice it now has canvas sails instead of paper ones. There's now a beam for the anchor and it's got shorter headrails (more fitting for a frigate from around 1800). The crew and officers have also been expanded. Currently the ship is stationed in the West Indies to protect French interests in that area.

Here's the updated Orient (version 2):

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For reference, this is what the version 1 (from 2007) looked like:

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#2 Patriot720

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 02:30 PM

Wow, that is impressive  :pir-classic: Are you finally satisfied with it because I think it looks amazing!!! :pir_laugh2:  Do you have cannons for all those gun ports?

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 03:00 PM

View PostPatriot720, on Dec 31 2008, 03:30 PM, said:

Are you finally satisfied with it because I think it looks amazing!!!
I'm quite satisfied now. The way this ship is build there's little room for structural improvements at this point unless I destroy the ship completely and start over.  I've recently started building a new ship using some more advanced techniques than the ones used for building L'Orient. Because I'm working on this new ship I wanted to get the updates on L'Orient done and pictures posted to finish that chapter.

View PostPatriot720, on Dec 31 2008, 03:30 PM, said:

Do you have cannons for all those gun ports?
Yes, there's a cannon behind each gun port!

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 04:30 PM

Great way to test techniques for your new ship.  I know that progress on mine has been going slow because I am doing alot of this stuff for the first time.

The canvas sails look fantastic.  What type of material did you use and where did you purchase it at?

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 04:54 PM

Wasnt the L'orient the flagship of the battle of the nile? becuz that had 120 guns but back to your ship- AWESOME but maybe you should make the sails billow more.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 08:49 PM

That's what I call an improvement. Especially the sails look much more realistic this way.
Overall I like this MOC very much.

Great work!  :thumbup:

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 12:51 AM

I said it before and I'll say it again: very well done Bonaparte  :thumbup: , the improvements are noticable!
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 03:11 AM

WOW! that looks Bee-a-youtifull! nice guns, too
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 11:14 PM

She's a beauty Tom!
The new headrails, the added rope and the sails make this an outstanding creation. :thumbup:
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 11:30 PM

Very nicely done, Boney!  That figurehead is kinda creepy though.........
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 05:06 AM

It's nice. The way the people are set up, it reminds me of Master and Commander with Russel Crowe

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:01 PM

View PostRocketSeason, on Dec 31 2008, 05:30 PM, said:

The canvas sails look fantastic.  What type of material did you use and where did you purchase it at?
I used normal sheets coming from a bed for the sails. They have been in a bath with coffee for the color. Afterwards I used special glue to stiffen them. It took a bit of experimenting but the procedure has been done before by other members.

View PostHead Fleet Architect, on Dec 31 2008, 05:54 PM, said:

Wasnt the L'orient the flagship of the battle of the nile? becuz that had 120 guns but back to your ship- AWESOME but maybe you should make the sails billow more.
That's indeed the ship used by Napoleon for going to Egypte, but I only borrowed the name, not the design.

I have been thinking of ways to make the sails billow a bit more, but I couldn't yet think of an easy way for doing that.

View Postdsmithers, on Jan 2 2009, 06:06 AM, said:

it reminds me of Master and Commander with Russel Crowe
That's no coincidence as the design of my ship is based mainly on the HMS Surprise/Rose from that amazing movie.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:14 PM

Very nice Bonaparte, i think the red and black desgin looks really good! :pir-sweet:  I wish i could build like that, sadly i do not have enough bricks. :pir_bawling:

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:32 PM

I like the sail configuration in version 2. :thumbup:
I don't see ships with the Sky Sail too often.

Now we just need to see some brown, tan, or rown decks. :pir-wink:

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:44 PM

View PostBonaparte, on Jan 2 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

That's no coincidence as the design of my ship is based mainly on the HMS Surprise/Rose from that amazing movie.

I knew it! Your ship look so familiar to me and now you say it, only the coloursheme is different.

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 06:25 PM

Likes on the new version:

the color scheme is a nice improvement in the mid section.

the bow castle and the railings up front by the new figure head are excellent.

I like the new sail configuration as it is more realistic, especially with the long topsails.  I think the sails on the mizzen mast are a great improvement.

Suggestions:  I think the red decking is okay, it is certainly better than black- but I can see where rown decking would look even better.  

Though I think the sail configuration is an improvement, they look fairly lifeless in your photos.  I would consider doing something to make them look like there is wind in them.  I usually do this by using a different "cut" in the sail to simulate wind, though it also works to add a piece to the mast to push the sails out.  Take a look here at the lowest sail on the main mast.  You will see a hinged piece attached to the mast that pushes the lowest sail out to look like wind is in it. (picture is quite large)

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 08:18 PM

Impressive ship, Bonaparte!
I prefer the second version, because it have a lot more detail's. Especially the new big flags [are they selfmade?] and the canon-wholes.
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 10:45 PM

I really love this. The sky sail is awesome! And yes, i agree that this ship is very much like Master and Commander.

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 01:47 AM

That looks really cool man, great improvements.  :pir-wub: :pir-classic:
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 09:28 AM

View PostPhred, on Jan 2 2009, 09:32 PM, said:

Now we just need to see some brown, tan, or rown decks. :pir-wink:

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Suggestions:  I think the red decking is okay, it is certainly better than black- but I can see where rown decking would look even better.
You guys certainly have a point there and I might change the decks at some point in the future. I still kinda like the red decks because it's a Lego ship, but they are not very accurate (historically).

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Though I think the sail configuration is an improvement, they look fairly lifeless in your photos.  I would consider doing something to make them look like there is wind in them.  I usually do this by using a different "cut" in the sail to simulate wind, though it also works to add a piece to the mast to push the sails out.  Take a look here at the lowest sail on the main mast.  You will see a hinged piece attached to the mast that pushes the lowest sail out to look like wind is in it. (picture is quite large)
Yes, that was annoying me too. I've worked hard to make those sails, but indeed they seem a bit lifeless. A few days ago I found a very simple way to make it look like there was some wind in the sails. I'll make a picture to show the result.

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View PostBonaparte, on Jan 12 2009, 03:28 AM, said:

Yes, that was annoying me too. I've worked hard to make those sails, but indeed they seem a bit lifeless. A few days ago I found a very simple way to make it look like there was some wind in the sails. I'll make a picture to show the result.


Ohh-- a new technique!  do share!

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 07:27 PM

View PostBonaparte, on Jan 12 2009, 10:28 AM, said:

Yes, that was annoying me too. I've worked hard to make those sails, but indeed they seem a bit lifeless. A few days ago I found a very simple way to make it look like there was some wind in the sails. I'll make a picture to show the result.

You rolled them up? :pir-grin:
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