[TC5] Technic C-Model Contest - Information Topic

[Captainowie]

Just as a side note, you don't even have to own all parts of an official set. I just looked at rebrickable (set to exact color, 600 parts, official sets only)

and most of the time i got 95%... you won't use 100% of each set anyway, or?

This is true, but often the missing 5% is critical - they're the pieces that make that set unique. For example, I'd probably have 95% of any pull-back set you'd care to name, but without a pull-back motor, any C-model I make will be somewhat mediocre.

[jantjeuh]

Well, you can then take the missing 5%, add them to a wanted list with the click of a button, and then buy them from BrickLink

[legomuppet9]

Well, you can then take the missing 5%, add them to a wanted list with the click of a button, and then buy them from BrickLink

Some people aren't made of money

[torso]

Have been considering making an alternative technic build for practise, and now seems like a good time.

I don't see any restriction that this has to be built like an official set. What about other things, like weak constructions or illegal techniques? Looks like they're allowed, but one should just assume that people are less likely to vote for such things.

[Jim]

Looking forward to seeing what we get out of this. I rather enjoyed the mini contest earlier this year and the limits on what you can use encourage a certain creativity. Think I'll have a bash at it myself actually

Indeed, imposing a certain limit increases creativity

I don't see any restriction that this has to be built like an official set. What about other things, like weak constructions or illegal techniques? Looks like they're allowed, but one should just assume that people are less likely to vote for such things.

There are no limits, but you are probably/hopefully right about the voting.

[Jim]

Looking at BusterHaus' entry, I figured it is cool to have a picture of the leftover pieces in your entry post.

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=101589

So I hereby declare the need to take a picture of the leftover parts

I will clearly state it in the entry topic.

[JGW3000]

So I hereby declare the need to take a picture of the leftover parts

Jim, are you certain about this - I think many of us were planning to use spare parts out of our inventories to make existing smaller sets, with corresponding one-to-one basis matching spares with set parts. For example, there are many sets, according to Rebrickable, in which in have 85-95% of the parts, by exact match. My plan was to pick one or two of these, and build just using the parts that are used for the set - thus no leftover parts. Otherwise, I am out as the one small set I have needs a partner to make something interesting, this maybe so for others as well.

[Jim]

Hmmm you are saying that you are only using 90% of the parts, because you don't own more?

I didn't think of that scenario. I figured you guys would collect all the parts and then start building.

[JGW3000]

Jim, I was just checking (instead or working). I have 8419 with 286 parts, so I can use one more set with no more than 314 parts, which I don't have. According to rebrickable, I have 79.5% of the parts of 8067, which has 292 parts. The two sets together will give me 578 parts, great, but I can only build with 286 + (292-60) = 518 parts, unless I buy more of the 8067 parts that I am missing. Would be great to be able to use partial sets in the contest. If not, I am stuck with using my 8049 (but it has pneumatics) only. Either way is fine, thanks for the great contest!

[Jim]

I am very interested in the parts left, but if that will pose a problem for more people I won't enforce that rule.

I don't see a reason to deny using partial sets.

[Wiseman_2]

I've just finished up a quick sketch model in LDD using 8049, should get around to posting a topic and some images later tonight or tomorrow all being well. My only concern is that 8049 originally had extra parts included for motorization, and I'm a little unsure as to whether I have used any of them, because they disappeared into my spare parts collection a while ago and will be difficult to relocate

Edited October 22, 2014 by Wiseman_2

[Jeroen Ottens]

Hmmm you are saying that you are only using 90% of the parts, because you don't own more?

I didn't think of that scenario. I figured you guys would collect all the parts and then start building.

Actually I'm using parts in a different colour during building (and I skipped the wheels ). For the final model I just order the parts that I miss.

[Captainowie]

Hmmm you are saying that you are only using 90% of the parts, because you don't own more?

I didn't think of that scenario. I figured you guys would collect all the parts and then start building.

Perhaps a compromise could be to allow the "leftover parts" image to be produced digitally (i.e. LDraw or LDD or a montage of pictures from Brickset).

[W3ird_N3rd]

I mixed up the set numbers when changing the sequence. Thanks.

No, the PF motor set is not allowed. I will add that rule.

I'm slightly confused. There is a rule that says "you can't use that motor set". And another rule that says "you can't use that other motor set either".

But I see no rule that says "can't use PF dude!". So these sets would still be allowed?

http://brickset.com/sets/9686-1

http://brickset.com/sets/9628-1

http://brickset.com/sets/8264-1

All have PF, after 2005 and <600 parts! I suspect it's a loophole.

[Jim]

I'm slightly confused. There is a rule that says "you can't use that motor set". And another rule that says "you can't use that other motor set either".

But I see no rule that says "can't use PF dude!". So these sets would still be allowed?

http://brickset.com/sets/9686-1

http://brickset.com/sets/9628-1

http://brickset.com/sets/8264-1

All have PF, after 2005 and <600 parts! I suspect it's a loophole.

I am okay with sets which have included PF, like the last one you posted (8264). However, separate PF sets or expansion sets are not allowed.

Like I said earlier. If you use this list and scroll back to 2005 you'll be okay:

http://brickset.com/sets/theme-Technic/year-2014

[W3ird_N3rd]

Interesting.. So 9686 and 9628, despite their contents, count as "Education" sets and not as Technic sets, did not know that!

In that case it looks like the only way to use PF will be the 8264. There simply doesn't seem to be any other set that would qualify. http://www.bricklink...em.asp?S=4895-1 is just 11 parts over the limit (and not Technic), http://www.bricklink...em.asp?S=8052-1 is 86 parts over the limit.

http://www.bricklink...em.asp?S=9665-1 and http://www.bricklink...em.asp?S=4094-1 are from 2003 and probably don't qualify as Technic sets either. Here's an amazing video for C-models with the 4094 though, I have to share it, may provide some inspiration seeing 25 different things that can be done with a mere 254 parts:

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Thanks for clearing it up! Again, great contest!

Edited October 27, 2014 by W3ird_N3rd

[jantjeuh]

Like I said earlier. If you use this list and scroll back to 2005 you'll be okay:

http://brickset.com/...chnic/year-2014

Or far easier, use this Rebrickable link: http://rebrickable.c...14&official=1/. No scrolling required, and results are already limited to 600 parts. I guess the 'super packs' aren't allowed though, though the rules don't state this.

Edited October 27, 2014 by jantjeuh

[rollermonkey]

I am starting to wonder if some people prefer to search for loopholes in the rules than actually focus on following the pretty obvious intent of the contest...

Build a MOC using parts from one or two sets which combined, total less that 600 pieces.

All this "but what about" for weeks now!

[W3ird_N3rd]

For me, it's just a really odd hobby.

Should indeed be getting to building though!

Edited October 28, 2014 by W3ird_N3rd

[Inferiority Complex]

It's a remarkable amount of fun watching this topic go all over the place as people scramble to find ways around the rules as they were set out.

Meanwhile, I've disassembled one model to try and build the idea I had and found it didn't work.

So, I rebuilt the original model and disassembled another...

So far, I have my Mk1 version of my entry:- it's far too large and has a really odd-looking back end.

Now it's time to disassemble and tighten up the entire thing, squeezing everything together and making more effective use of the empty space within the shell of the model.

Soon, Mk2 will be ready...

[farmer bodo]

That is really a great topic, but can i use the set 8069 with 609 pieces? I don't have anything smaller.

[Jim]

That is really a great topic, but can i use the set 8069 with 609 pieces? I don't have anything smaller.

Hi Farmer,

Welcome to EB!

No you can't. 609 exceeds 600

I am starting to wonder if some people prefer to search for loopholes in the rules than actually focus on following the pretty obvious intent of the contest...

Build a MOC using parts from one or two sets which combined, total less that 600 pieces.

All this "but what about" for weeks now!

Amen!

I thought this contest would be really simple. Take one or two sets with a max of 600 parts and start building

[Eraman]

Hi all!

Is it possible to build more than one idea for the contest?

Of course i will choose one of them at the end of the building period for the entry topic.

thanks.

[Jim]

Hi all!

Is it possible to build more than one idea for the contest?

Of course i will choose one of them at the end of the building period for the entry topic.

thanks.

You can build as many models as you want!!!

But you can only use a single model for the contest.

[Eraman]

You can build as many models as you want!!!

But you can only use a single model for the contest.

Ok, thanks