Shakar

Uuummm, guys, what do you think we've been discussing in the last 2 pages?

I'd definitely like a HQ set for the Ravens. A flying fortress of sorts, with a steampunk feel, would be really cool. Rawzom's Flying Raven Fortress Minifigs: Rawzom, Razar, Razcal, Rizzo, possibly a new female Raven, Eris and Equila. I love the birds. Price: between 70 and 100 Euro, I guess.

Whoooops! When was this renamed? I didn't even notice. Nevermind..

Hmm, I didn't realize that.Scarox is a small set so he surely won't have back armour. Bruizer doesn't... I guess Ogrum won't either at this point. Surge can use the winged jetpack as a justification, I guess. Stormer is quite clearly a medium sized set (as I said, I really don't think he's a XL), so he might have something: peraphs the side acle holes of the foot piece are used to attach those two flick missile launchers he has. I guess Nex and Stringer are returning. If so, I think one of them will be small and the other medium sized. It just seems like the ideal way Lego would balance the 5 Summer Heroes out. Oh, and can we finally rename this topic now? We know about 3/4 of the 2013 line up by now. I'll PM Brickthing if everybody is ok with it..

Surge does appear to wield a weapon on his right hand, but I don't think it's that piece: http://i.imgur.com/70cZ3.png

Correct I saw a recolour of that piece coming from a mile away, since it looks generic enough it could be any form of energy/element. Plus it looks so pretty.I was excepting it to be featured on Surge though, certainly not on Stormer. Like Pyrox/Furno's flame version, I guess it will be two toned. But that is not regular bright red, that's glorious dark red! I hope the Summer blue villain is a dark blue bird, since Surge is equipped with wings. We're getting Eris and Razar afterall, so I can see their wing design getting reused in HF.

No back armour! Seriously Lego, what have you been smoking when you deisgned these sets? No, the "attach the slug brain to the back" feature is not an excuse for that. The piece count isn't, either- Pyrox has 50 pieces, which is a very low count. Good thing I ended up with lots of black feet.. Pyrox confirms himself as my favourite 2013 Winter villain, save for that pitiful detail.

Lewa (Mata), Hahli Mahri, Kardas, Brutaka and Nocturn.

Word. I was losing hope we'd see tr. yellow cladding again, but we're getting more of it afterall. Oh, looks like the Summer Heroes use noticeably less silver/titanium metallic. And the shield thing was dropped, something...I don't mind very much, actually.

That's definitely not Crooler, though. She wears a two piece bikini of sorts, while the "Queen" in the video wears a full sleeveless dress and a crown on her head. Since she was mentioned along Laval and the others, I guess this confirms Eris is the Eagle commander, right below Ewald the Gender Ambiguous King. Not so unusual. Crominus and the others are the rulers who hold political power and mostly stay out of fights, while Laval, Eris, etc.. are the military leaders who actively fight, so it's logical to see them more often in the sets and in the show.

And so the ever changing LEGO logo gained wings. Have we seen the Lion King/Laval's father (I guess) yet? Otherwise, I guess he'll show up in the Lion Temple in Summer. Oh, and did I see a Crocodile Queen at 0:20 (first video)?

^^ Great job! Oh wow, I didn't notice that.It does look like BP's arm. No one else has black 4M shells on their lower arms, IIRC. I really doubt Surge is a XL, on the other hand now that I look at him again those 3M shells on his lower arms do look trans yellow-fantastic. It looks like he's holding a weapon on his right hand. Aside from the obvious tr blue shell, I can already see two all-new yellow recolours on Evo: EF robot arms and those lovely spike / fin pieces the 2.0 wave introduced. And it looks like he's going to feature a round shoulder pad on his right shoulder, like in Breakout. Oh, and the staff blades are connected to hinge pieces, like in Breakout Rocka's crossbrow. I knew the Winter line was just a one-time slip up. Judging from those 4 sets we saw, Summer looks much stronger.

Thanks for the screencaps, Best Background Pony. Azure? Huh, the brain/slug does look like it's azure, but I spot no azure on the villain. I thought about Stormer being an XL again (major reasons: somewhat complex weapons, printed visor like Furno's), but the design (especially the very standard torso area) looks too simple to me Unless Nex or Stringer get one (and I really don't see it coming), looks like Breez is going to be the sole non-Bulk Hero with a silver helmet. Kinda inconsistent, then again the Toa Mahri did that too and it wasn't that bad.

I forgot to comment on the white villain. He looks pretty, ahem, cool, kindalike a Ice!Pyrox. He uses white Laval mane/fur armour pieces like Stormer. Those transparent shells look lighter than the ones on Evo and Stormer, closer to (Bricklink) trans light blue- I do hope that is the case. That torso kinda reminds me of Reapa's.. Both Stormer and Surge seem to feature flick missiles. I just realized Evo's purpleless again. : (

Time for speculation / comments / random stuff! The summer sets look great! Evo has trans blue YESSS. Surge and Stormer look really cool too. Stormer's shoulders use Laval's mane/armour pieces and he wields a tr. blue Rocka sword like Laval. On the other arm, he was a wrist mounted weapon that is a combination between 1/2 of Furno XL's shield and a tr. blue version of the new giant flame piece (Furno XL / Pyrox). His visor has the same decorations as Furno XL's.. Surge's tr colour seems to be tr. neon green, and he reuses Stormer XL's scout drones and Furno XL's shield halves (as wings). I guess he'll fight a flying villain- maybe we'll finally see a bird villain? With Eris and Razar coming in Summer, it's not so farfetched. Both have long armoured lower arms so they're likely going to be 13 Euro sets (see my post in the previous page). Evo's arms are short instead so he's going to be a 9 Euro set (foreverrrrr). Only Nex and Stringer are missing now..

That helmet looks freaking weird without visor. But it's kinda cool too- the nose area looks like a mouth. Still he looks good. Too bad about the weapons..

Oh, thanks! That's exactly what I wanted to hear, actually.

"Leader"? Ewald? I used to take for granted the character was a female, but I'm not sure anymore. His/her eyes don't look that feminine either.. Then again, that is clearly a sleeveless dress.

I'm worried that we're getting the head only in tr. bright green. The pics we had found already confirmed a green head for Breez, Bulk, Pyrox and Scarox. Now that video review reveals Bruizer has a green one too. From the hi res S@H image Furno, his eyes looked yellow, but I'm losing hope at this point. It's not so bad for the villains thanks to the brains, but the Heroes? It's 2008 Bionicle all over again.

Hello everyone, does anybody own the Star Slicer? I've got a question. The large blades on the Mantis's arms- are they tr. neon green or tr. bright green?

Great review! I'm glad I was right about her using tr. bright green. Not so happy about being right in that she's without back armour. But that was to be excpeted. My complains about her still stand (brown, weird weapon, etc), but she does look nicer IRL. Wow that combo model does rock. Notice that he (?) looks more humanoid and uses Breez's helmet, unlike the 2012 models (more beast like designs, used the villains helmets/heads).

The head looks weird, and I agree it won't work well with characters like BP/SD/Voltix, otherwise I say bring it on. Bruizer and Pyrox look strangely..cute.

BA Heroes' torsos are in their "metallic colours", kinda like in 2011. Breez's is silver, Rocka's is titanium metallic (like Rocka 3.0), Furno's is silver like Furno 2.0/3.0 (which is why all that titanium metallic on him bothers me). 2013 Heroes overall have 3 main colours:1)"Main" colour 2)Transparent colour 3)Metallic colour. Which is why Bulk's solid orange makes no sense, same (but even worse) for Breez's random titanium metallic, earth green and brown parts. They attemped at a colour scheme organization that is somewhat similar to that of the 2011 Heroes (rather than the "everyone does their own thing", like in 2012), but it doesn't look nearly as uniform and well thought out.

I guess this does fully confirm he has a narrow shoulders torso like Rocka and Breez. When it comes to 9 Euro Heroes, it seems they prefer, starting from Breakout, a frame with narrow shoulders and short lower arms. Last year, only Surge had wide shoulders (like his 2.0 form) out of the 9 Euro Heroes and Rocka was the sole 13 Euro Hero with narrow shoulders (like Rocka 3.0). I'd prefer if they kept each Hero with their own shoulders/arms combination, like in 2011 (for example, Furno 2.0/3.0 had wide shoulders, Nex 2.0 had narrow ones, but all 3 had longer arms). And I prefer Bulk with the wide shoulders/longer arms combo, so I'll modify him, but narrow torsos are rare enough that I can't complain ending up with a spare one. And yes, the orange hands are random. All orange pieces on him are random IMO- his transparent colour is rightfully tr. reddish orange, but he already has a "main" solid colour, which is silver. Solid orange is just too much I think. Still better than Breez's colour scheme organization. Ooooh, boy..

Are the transparent parts tr. neon green or tr. bright green?