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But that's not what he says via PM. He PMs me to try and undermine Minga and gives a different reason. From PM: Paul: About Dragonfire He gave the cop to the scum team ... He claims to not have the cop results yet *speculation about the identity of the investigator*. He is voluntarily withholding information from the town He is the only link we all have to the claimed PRs How did he get all these claims? He PMed everybody demanding claims? Isn't that weird? no? based on this I don't really trust him to lead us and that's why I'm pressuring him. Me: He gave the investigator to the Scum team? That's a pretty bold statement. What do you even mean by that? Paul: Like I said, it took me literally 30 seconds to figure out *speculation*. redacted Then I called him out on it and *speculation* and he lost his mind ... so yeah ... *speculation* is the cop Like I told him, I hope scum are dense as brick because the clues are all there. ___________________ First of all, this doesn't look like you don't trust him because your speculation about him not revealing the result... is what you're basing your guess on as to who the investigator is. I know that's a hard sentence to swallow, let me try to make it more clear. Paul has a guess about the identity of the investigator and this guess leads him to one singular player. For Paul to not believe Minga is telling the truth, this guess has to be wrong. But he's also trying to prove to me that Minga says too much and that his guess is right which means he shouldn't be suspecting Minga of lying. So he's just trying...everything...including contradicting himself...to sow mistrust in the Town block. And if that's not fishing, Paul, then yar bum's oot the window... [quote name='Sir Stig' timestamp='1442528871' post='2332840'] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Sent 11 September 2015 - 12:21 AM to Diamond Dodd. 4 of 2 [/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Sent 11 September 2015 - 12:16 AM. Nathan [/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Sent 11 September 2015 - 12:13 AM.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]+7? hours because of the timezone (Norway GMT+1). What is the standard time on this planet? (EB forum). Anyway, the day end and 24 hour notice for night actions show on my timesetting as: [/size][/font][/color][color=#808080][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][b]Posted [/b][/size][/font][/color]10 September 2015 - 05:04 AM [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#000000][size=3]I'll leave the analyzing to someone else, since apparently none of you understand what I am saying.[/size][/color][/font] [/quote] Why is there always this markup in your posts? Do you compose your posts somewhere else and then copy and paste them here? Day One 11 votes for Doctor Wen (Xenophobic Monoxide): (Mediumsnowman, Hinckley, Tariq, Bob, Captain Nemo, TinyPiesRUs, CallMePie, Fhomess, Piratedave84, Jluck, Ranger of the Forest) 6 votes for Clementine Lister (Lind Whisperer): (Chromeknight, Sir Stig, Xenophobic Monoxide, Lazychicken, Lady K, Dragonfire) 1 vote for Vasquez Rodriguez (Lady K): (Lind Whisperer) 1 vote for Hannah Ford (Ranger of the Forest): Mostlytechnic Day Two Claw (theLazychicken): 12 votes (CallmePie, Ranger of the Forest, Hinckley, Tariq j, Captain Nemo, Dragonfire, fhomess, mostlytechnic, Bob, Sir Stig, Lady K, TinyPiesRUs) Ooooh! Scum never start a bandwagon! How bold. I actually did put him in my Town column because he led a case and voted first. Jerk. Laura Starbucks (Tariq j): 1 vote (Lind Whisperer) Paul Harkonnenn (PirateDave84): 2 votes (theLazyChicken, mediumsnowman) Seamus Aaron (Hinckley): 1 vote (PirateDave84) Day Three 4 of 2 (mostlytechnic): 1 vote (Captain Nemo) Bock Pathos (Bob): 4 votes (RangeroftheForest, Dragonfire, Lind Whisperer, Sir Stig) 'Rip' Sewer (Captain Nemo): 7 votes (mediumsnowman, Bob, mostlytechnic, CallMePie, TinyPiesRUs, PirateDave84,Hinckley) With 7 votes, 'Rip' Sewer (Captain Nemo) has been lynched. When I look at it through my "Paul and 4 of 2 are Scum" blinders, it looks like they have a tendency to be on the same strategy. Either follow Diamond, the obvious brains of the operation or vote randomly for Hannah in one case and me in another, both for weak reasoning. If this is anything to go by, I now suspect Bock, Nathan...Paul and 4 of 2! I bet you were surprised by that last part. It sure would've been smart for the Scum to kill me yesterday if I was wrong about those two. I've been so wrong and stuck in a tunnel on Paul and 4 of 2 that killing me would've incriminated them. But the Scum only would've done that if I was wrong. Harriet, what can you tell us about your contact with Paul? Day One and Day Three are almost looking like there is no Scum on one bandwagon...unlike what 4 of 2 keeps trying to tell us...almost like one of their strategies was "Everyone hop on the same wagon because Scum never does that!"

Can't you use the multi–quote button???? For God's sake, 24 hours is 24 hours. The host always gives the number of hours and you add that to the timestamp of his post. It is not rocket science.

Don't worry. You're already implicated with Paul. And this being your only concern with the interaction is concerning. Now I can't think of what to make of Diamonds reaction to my case against you two. Did Diamond know Vazquez had part of the code? And do you really think that code was important they would kill over it? No. You were pushing for them to investigate Bock, though.

No, Paul. You don't need the town block to figure that out. I don't have your Action or the block and I figured it out. You just need two brain cells to rub together... ...to figure out you can't watch yourself to find a blocker

Diamond, the only person I never suspected. Interesting that he was echoing Paul and 4 of 2. And that Paul fishes for the investigator in private. You were a highly unlikely investigation target and therefore a highly unlikely framing target.

You know the tracker is dead, you know Minga has the investigator claiming to her. With the margin this narrow, a Town watcher doesn't look for "friends" like it's Day One and a Town block needs to form. With a razor thin margin, you look for a killer and you can't find a killer...or a blocker!!!!...watching yourself. So...you're saying he's a liar? Too bad I won't get to eat it... Losing is spelled with one "o". And you're pressing them publicly? When you have a PM with them? Can you be any Scummier? Fine then. Let's lynch you! Can you quote that for me? Maybe if you had given them something to work with by watching...anyone but yourself...which makes no logical Town sense. None. Lead you? You don't have your own game? If they say wait...wait. That's the way they're leading right now. What do you want them to do? Make shit up so you feel led? Pretend to throw a ball so you chase it and spend an hour looking for it?

Paul, you've gone from hiding from direct accusation to screaming at the people who helped you yesterday, all while being the Scummiest player here. You're coming off as cocky when you're yelling at the people in the Town block and accusing them of...not leading well? Because they don't want people to mass claim and you think they already know the investigation result? You're getting weirder and Scummier. If you're truly a Town PR, why would you press the town block for public sharing of info like this when you're not privy to all that they know? If you're Town I'll eat my licorice hat. They don't have it all solved. You're Scummy, Paul is the definition of Scummy. The very basis of your mass claim is that you and Paul are fully trusted and you aren't. So, a mass claim doesn't work. And what gives you any indication that the Town block "has it all solved"? Don't try to bully information out of them. It's Scummier than everything else you've done.

What the hell?

At lynch or lose we can't just kill the block target.

That is an odd conclusion to jump to. Was the fact that nobody targeted me Night One a contributing factor to your brilliant deduction?

Yes, possibly. But it's interesting that they don't want to know who was protected so they can weigh the options in absence of a kill. It said there's no investigation result yet so what would indicate me as the SK?

So, Scummy Paul has gone from accusing me of being Scum to accusing me of being the SK. Paul, what was your conversation with Harriet about?

Are you asking me who the SK is? Or accusing me of it?

Weird that Bock and 4 of 2 seem so interested in who was blocked. If the Scum know who was blocked then they'd know if their target was protected or not. Wouldn't the Scum just love to know what went wrong with their kill last night?

Bock was also highly likely to be targeted by investigator, blocker or vig. You are giving Scummy reasons for watching a Scummy player. You...suck. Sorry.

It's been one day since you and Paul panic–claimed and you're Scumminess is still lingering in the air. But asking for a mass claim is helping that stench stick around. I noticed that too.

clarification 1. you were looking for Town PRs because you're Scum and you want to kill them.

1. You were looking for the investigator by watching yourself and only admit it because you're afraid you would've been tracked. The only reason to watch yourself would be to see if you were killed...and then you wouldn't be able to tell anyone because you'd be dead. 2. Bock looks the Scummiest out of anybody because the bandwagon swayed off of him and to Rip, a Townie, in such an odd way. 3. You were a good Scum target because they could knock out a PR and with all the suspicion around you, you weren't likely to be protected. 4. Get a rope...

It's very smart, actually. I agree that a selection of targets should be discussed but now you know for sure that Minga didn't know who you'd be watching. Therefore if anything goes wrong in the Town block, you won't suspect the leader. I approve of the strategy. Now, you are playing the game, so I assume you were able, since you read the threads so often and hover all day, to choose a good target. Can you tell us who you targeted or if you learned anything? Or are you just going to yell at Minga for strategically with–holding information?

Perfect. That's how Nathan would know.

Thank you! That will save me such a headache. No offense, Zipzop, but your posts are kind of a mental quagmire.

Wait, wait, wait. Now that I understand the code was broken up between six people, Zipzop, did Vazquez have 1 and 17? If so, how did Nathan know? Did Zipzop ever post which part went to who?

Yes but that SK was anti-Town and it's almost exactly how you're behaving here and when you were the mason you were bold and accusatory. damn this code. I got +2. I didn't hear 1 and 17 until Zipzop told us. That should be the only instance I confused the two, long after it's been discussed to death so that shouldn't be confusing anyone as it's the only time I swapped them.

You know, ignore this. Sorry. I apparently don't know how to adjust for time zones. I know I have tunnel vision on you, Minga was nice enough to let me know when you claimed to it and I misread the time she said you claimed. I am curious though, who else you may have been in contact with throughout the game besides Minga and Clem. I still have trouble believing you are Town, even though you claimed PR. I just can't see a Townie acting this Scummy because they have a PR. Can you point out where you said you behaved like this before? Because if you're going to metagame yourself as a defense I can metagame back. I think you have a very different Town–tell and your play in this game has very much been your Scum–tell. Aaah! I'm late for something. Mafia has officially consumed my life. I put my concerns very concisely somewhere but I'll have to look again later. I'll be on and off throughout the day, Scumbag. I quoted mine if you want to go look. It's when I posted all of Stig's PMs.

Ha! Liar! That's not what I've been told. why would a Townie lie, Paul?