General Magma

Those figures look fantastic. I'm glad they made two new hairpieces for the Elves. Looks like Frodo might have new face prints - the figure doesn't seem to have his Shire head nor his other head. Same for Gandalf the Grey. The orcs are still disappointing, though - an Uruk-hai helmet? Oh well... the other figures are great.

I've updated the first post with some additional ideas. Tried to make the minifig assortments as realistic as possible, so tell me what you think about those. To the rest: those are some nice ideas in general, though I agree that Barad-Dûr would have to be another exclusive set, it's rather iconic and should be at least a bit larger than Orthanc.

Yes, that would be a great way to end the line, perhaps as an exclusive set like you said. The rings would have to be chrome blue, chrome red and chrome silver. (Or just white)

"The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" set idea if they wanted to do another set from film 1: Warg Chase Minifigs: Kili, 2 Gundabad orcs, and Radagast the Brown. Consists of: One grey Warg, the rocks with a small opening which the dwarf use to escape and Radagast's sled. It would be great if the Gundabad orcs could actually be orcs with new prints instead of re-used Mordor orcs, but TLG probably isn't planning something like that... A set of the scene with the trolls would be nice, but I can't really see TLG adding 3 molded trolls to a set... Possibilities for future "The Hobbit" film sets (DOS and TABA): Laketown Attack Minifigs: Bard the Bowman, Legolas, 1 Mirkwood elf, The Master of Laketown, 2 Laketown archers and 1 Laketown spearman. Consists of: A part of Laketown and its structures and buildings, and Smaug the dragon himself. The Battle of Dol Guldur Minifigs: Gandalf the Grey, Galadriel, Elrond (armored), The Necromancer, 2 Mirkwood elves, Ringwraith and 1 orc. Consists of: A part of the old fortress (Dol Guldur). Could come with Bolg as well, depending on whether he appears in this or not judging by film rumors. The Battle of Five Armies Minifigs: Thorin Oakenshield (armor), King Thranduil, Dain Ironfoot, 2 armored dwarves, 1 Laketown spearman, Bolg and 1 Gundabad orc. Consists of: One white horse, one grey Warg and whatever can be added to it. (Which we don't know yet) Might have Azog and/or Beorn as well or instead of some other figures if the former appears in the scene and if the latter doesn't appear in another set.

I had to put Lothlorien in there because every Middle-Earth wave so far has had one "peaceful" set, so I decided to have one in there as well. I originally had a Golden Hall set with Gandalf, Éowyn and a cursed Théoden, but I decided to stick with these sets to have as many key characters as possible, as well as the concluding Mount Doom. Also, as for the Eagle, I was hoping the final design would have proper legs with claw feet, but I'm afraid the closest we will get to that will be printed feet on the piece we've already seen...

Madril could replace one figure, but it's hardly a significant character. I would prefer to have a good, generic Ithilien ranger. I'm certain there won't be LOTR battle packs, and it would be useless to have multiple Osgiliath sets, it's not like Helm's Deep. I don't think they'll do a Minas Tirith like that. It used to be a common idea in the past, but we all need to realize that, although Helm's Deep had an "extension system", it still looked like a full Helm's Deep, even without the Uruk-hai army set. They can't put out 7 Minas Tirith sets - one for each tier - but they can release a set of the gates.

Edited my previous post - what do you guys think about the possibilities of those? I thought four sets may be plausible. And, although it seems very unlikely, we might get a few LOTR sets along with the next Hobbit wave but again, that's fairly unlikely and I wouldn't count on it.

NOTE FROM YOUR REGULATOR: I split these posts out of the end of the LotR posts so the speculations could go somewhere else. Let's try to keep the 2013 LotR thread to just about confirmed sets and leave future set ideas in here. Henceforth, this shall be the thread to discuss future LOTR/The Hobbit sets and speculation. The second wave of LEGO LOTR is about to hit stores this summer, but many of us are still holding onto our hopes of it not being the last LOTR wave (excluding The Hobbit). There are still many locations and figures that haven't been covered yet, and while we won't see all of them in LEGO form, we can at least hope for some more important stuff to still show up in a possible next wave of LOTR. I think the only figures we really need now are Faramir, Éowyn (although possible to make using existing parts), Galadriel, Grima Wormtongue, Gondorian soldiers, Gothmog and the Witch-king of Angmar. Figures like an armored Éowyn or Rangers of Ithilien, Haradrim soldiers, etc. would be great as well, but if you really want those, there would be enough official parts to make them yourself. (ex., Éowyn > official Éowyn (if we'll ever get one) + green cape and fitting armor, maybe custom for non-purists like me) Madril or Gamling aren't hard to make using existing parts either. (For Madril we would just need Aragorn hair in dark grey, though) We haven't had a named orc (besides Lurtz who technically doesn't count) in the LOTR line yet, and Gothmog would be the best option. If we were to get a next wave of LOTR with a few sets, I think it would (in realistic standards I hope) look like this if they wanted to finish the theme in a nice way by giving us some key characters - and by one full wave, I mean the first four + the exclusive set. The rest are extra ideas: The Battle of Minas Tirith Minifigs: Denethor, Gandalf the White (on Shadowfax), Pippin (Gondorian outfit), 2 Gondorians, Gothmog, the Witch-king of Angmar and 2 orcs. Consists of: The gates of Minas Tirith, two walls (one of them will have a smaller trebuchet) and a Fell beast. (Had to remove armored troll for Fell beast) (Size: Large - similar to Helm's Deep) Osgiliath Under Attack Minifigs: Faramir, Ithilien ranger, Gondorian soldier and 2 orcs. Consists of: A partially destroyed building with a dome top, ruins around it, blue baseplate (water) and maybe an orc boat. (Size: Medium - similar to Weathertop) Arrival at Lothlorien Minifigs: Galadriel, Celeborn, Frodo and Boromir. Consists of: The Lothlorien tree house, using the design we saw in the LOTR game. This set is here because every Middle-Earth wave has one 'peaceful' set. A (pretty random) Lothlorien elf would be a good way to still have one of those as well, although perhaps unlikely. Either Boromir or Legolas in the minifig assortment. (Size: Medium - similar to The Council of Elrond) Mount Doom Minifigs: Frodo (weary), Samwise Gamgee (weary) and Gollum. Consists of: An entrance connected to a rocky walkway/cliff placed upon a baseplate with pieces to resemble lava. (Size: Small - similar to Gandalf Arrives) Exclusive set idea to end the theme, like the Diagon Alley: The Grey Havens Minifigs: Bilbo (old), Finery* Frodo, *Sam, *Merry, *Pippin, Gandalf the White, Elrond and Galadriel. Consists of: The white ship with a dock, maybe a few buildings with a path leading to the dock. (Size: Medium to large) ________________________________________________ Additional ideas: Ringwraith Escape Minifigs: Frodo, Pippin and 1 Ringwraith. Consists of: 2 trees, a small dock with a raft and one Ringwraith horse. (Size: Small - similar to Gandalf Arrives) Balrog Battle Minifigs: Gandalf the Grey and 2 Moria orcs. Consists of: The Balrog and the Bridge of Khazad-dûm. With some luck, we might be able to actually get the armored version of the Moria orc in a set like this. (Size: Medium - similar to Weathertop) Battle at Amon-hen Minifigs: Boromir, Aragorn, Lurtz and 2 Uruk-hai. Consists of: The seat of seeing where Aragorn fought the Uruk-hai, 2 trees and a statue. (Size: Medium - similar to Uruk-hai Army) Treebeard Encounter Minifigs: Merry, Pippin and Grishnakh. Consists of: Treebeard, perhaps with some scenery. (Size: Small to med - similar to Shelob Attacks) Théoden's Curse Minifigs: King Théoden (cursed), Éowyn, Gandalf the White, Gamling and Rohan Royal Guard. Consists of: The Golden Hall of Edoras, including the gates, some tables, Théoden's throne, flags and some more. No Grima unless he's not exclusive to or just not in the upcoming Tower of Orthanc set. (Size: Medium - similar to Weathertop) The Battle of Pelennor Fields Minifigs: Éowyn (armored), Merry (armored), Rohan soldier (new) and 2 orcs. Consists of: Orc siege tower and Éowyn's horse. (Size: Medium - similar to Weathertop) Cirith Ungol Rescue Minifigs: Samwise Gamgee, Frodo (shirtless), Gorbag, Shagrat and 1 orc. Consists of: A part of Cirith Ungol: stairs leading to the room where Sam saved Frodo, along with some barrels and crates with weapons and such. (Size: Medium - similar to The Black Gate) A possible idea for the upcoming Orthanc set and its minifig assortment: The Tower of Orthanc Minifigs: Saruman, Grima Wormtongue, 2 new orcs, 4 Uruk-hai and Uruk-hai general. Consists of: The tower of Orthanc (around 70 cm tall) and some warmachines. There would be 2 exclusive orcs with new prints and an exclusive Uruk general. (Size: Large - $150-200) Possible exclusive figure for a "LEGO The Hobbit" game: King Thror. Possible exclusive figure for a "LEGO The Lord of the Rings" encyclopedia: old Bilbo Baggins. (And otherwise we could have old Bilbo in King Thror's place, can't think of much else for a Hobbit game exclusive, Thror isn't that likely)

One thing that might be worth mentioning as well is that the vast majority of all orcs during the Battle of Pelennor Fields were Morannon orcs, not mere Mordor orcs. They were mostly shown wearing breastplates with dark red cloth, as well as helmets.

Wait, are those arms some kind of GITD or something? And the heads are indeed light grey like I thought... But I do wonder what the silver thing on #3's torso is. It actually looks like some kind of medal to me.. They even gave all undead figures individual leg prints, yet we get the same Mordor orcs again and again..

Now we know why Yazneg was in the Warg Attack set... I wonder if Azog will still have a place in 2013 sets. What are the possibilities... he might run into some trouble with Beorn in DoS, but other than that...?

^ Thanks! Bump. Out of the dwarves, I probably only need Oin and Gloin now. Really want more goblins, orcs, Uruks, etc.

Which doesn't mean they will stick to 22 forever.

Since not everything (or most of it) can be GITD on those figures, I'd prefer for them not to be GITD at all. The mixes of olive green and sand green seem good enough to me to represent the ghostly figures, though I do wonder if their heads are sand green or light grey/white...

True enough, although I'd like to see a Denethor figure as well. Not that a custom version couldn't work, but it would at least require Thorin's hair (or maybe Elizabeth Swann's) in grey. We still need Faramir, Éowyn, Gondorian soldiers and the Witch-king as figures in LOTR sets for sure, though. If they ever decide to do another exclusive minifigure (...not SDCC please...), King Aragorn or a Gondor Citadel Guard could work. Or perhaps Sauron or Isildur, to continue the 2nd age figures. Legolas, Aragorn and Gimli should all three have capes, but TLG keeps leaving them out... Not that that would add anything to the list of new figures... a new Anduril/Narsil mold might make up for that a bit.

I really hope the rumors about LOTR selling badly aren't true; because if they are, there might be a chance that we won't ever see Gondorians, Faramir, Denethor, Éowyn, Grima, Galadriel or the Witch-king...

Yeah - I don't know what the reason could be, the Mordor orcs were said to have been worker orcs in the Orc Forge set, yet they cheaply re-use those figures while there have been 3 different variants of goblins (which we'll never see again) in the Hobbit set and two different undead soldiers. Now we see the same Mordor orcs again, but worse... they're bald and one of them appears to be working on his Uruk-hai costume for a convention or something.

No, it's exactly the same torso as the ones from the Orc Forge.

What makes you think that? They look like the same color as the rest to me.

The figure is dark grey.

(Ignore the arrow) - Peter Jackson is the one with the blue triangle things on his forehead.

Exactly - I thought the designer said those were only worker orcs.

Disappointing orcs, no new prints and no hairpieces at all...? Other new figs look great, though, but the Corsair should have printed legs or at least brown hips.

Wait... no Mouth of Sauron?

Thanks! I've decide to just stick with the Middle-Earth map background as well.