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Can we maybe have a link to the picture? It's hard to follow the discussion without pics. Or, could someone PM me the image? If you can, I thank you.

You're forgetting a number of functions. You'd probably also have a deployable and lifting tow bar, which could also be extensible, and lifting of boom. I'd say that would be a good flagship, especially if it was mostly pneumatic. The BWE didn't have many functions, but it was a good flagship by virtue of size and building techniques. So, if you can't go by size, be about building techniques and functions, really show what Technic can do. However, I to am not as excited about the tow truck. I mean, it would be a good flagship, but the 40th anniversary needs a legendary flagship. But, this list could be wrong, or we could find out that it is legendary at the toy fairs. but, I think 6x6 is actually too small. 8x8 or go home! Also, 42008 isn't a bad set, it is quite functional. but, the looks are lacking, I'll agree. Although, can you imagine a 6x6 truck with 6 42054 wheels? That would be huge. Even with Unimog tires, it would be large.

Great review, but it's still a very boring set. Now, I'm not saying that having a fast motorized set is a bad thing, but could they have at least included some gears, or even some primitive kind of suspension? Although, I do think your point about it being a good deal is valid. For only 25 more AUD, you get 319 parts, including lots of track links. I was talking about the set being poor value in other reviews, but I'll probably have to reconsider that viewpoint, (and maybe apologize to @Sariel ) because it looks like the price in the US will be about $80. Although, in the US at least, it's not as good a value. In the US, the PF parts work out to about $47 dollars, and if the set is 85, that means that you could almost get a $40 set, AND the PF parts, which means that it might be better to get parts and make your own. But, on the other hand, the US is not the only country, and if you are in a region where PF parts are more expensive, it would be a good deal, as in Australia.

Where is 42067? All of these sets sound cool, but nothing sounds particularly special for 40th anniversary. Also, I think it's a shame that Lego hasn't done a type of design, or really any type of Technic contest. Or maybe that happens later this year. Anyway, that's not for this topic. Speculation: 42067: I don't know why this number was skipped, but that happened earlier with the 1H listing. I'm not sure if it's going to be a Wave 1.5 set, released around March, or a 2H set. Either way, I think it would be a forklift, like 855, but updated, and yellow. Now, yellow is a rare color, and white is overused. 42068: This is probably either 42051, or something similar. I'm just wondering why such a thing wouldn't be released last year, only to be released now. I'd say that 42051 looked okay, but Lego can do so much better, and I hope they've done so. 42069: I don't know, this might be some kind of Dakar style vehicle, a rock crawler, or maybe some kind of buggy. The name is just too vague. Red would be a nice color for it, though. I'd say I'd prefer that this set be the RC one, a tow truck just has too many functions for Lego to make in a set at a price that people wouldn't balk at. Then, this set could be something with drive, steer, adjustable suspension, and winch. For something that would be the same slot as 42054, I hope they do something special, rather than something like 42029, where it has standard suspension, and a splitter gearbox with 2 functions. Sadly, my hopes aren't high for this set. 42070: Well, this is unprecedented. If the name is accurate, it would be the first Lego set with 6x6 drive, ever. I'm not holding my breath, though. *cough* every set that has 4x4 in the name that is not actually 4x4*cough* Also interestingly, 6x6 tow trucks do exist, contrary to what Miscman says, but they are almost always military vehicles, although I have seen some civilian ones, that are ex military. Looks like Lego is know doing some pseudo military vehicles, but in civilian colors. I'd say making this flagship RC is rather unlikely, unless Lego can do some price voodoo and make it cost only a bit more than a non PF set. I'm hoping for something gray, as that's a nice, neutral color that is underrepresented in sets. We also don't have many panels in gray. I'm also kind of hoping that the name is wrong, needs more wheels.

Link or it did not happen.

Nice review, although some of the pictures are a little dark. Not enough to really impair viewability, but is certainly noticeable. It's something that could be better is all. Overall, the B model is okay, and the A model is good, for what it is. I'd actually say that the B model is better than the stunt jet of last year, by virtue of including a prop piece. I might pick one up, but it's not high on my list.

I'd say go, and keep this open in either Technic 2017 or a new thread so that we can ask questions. It could be great if we have someone on the ground who knows about Technic. Also, if they are there, you might want to stop at the Conrad, WSI, and NZG stands. Those guys make really cool 1:50 scale construction models, and that might be something of interest.

No, it won't. The geared (Black) part is much bigger than a 24Z gear. That part has 28z, and is larger than 3 studs in diameter, whereas the 24z is just about 3 studs. Lastly, if you need one, you can either get the parts separated from Bricklink, or get a set that includes them, as they come separated in package.

Yes, but why would you need to? I can think of absolutely no reason to disassemble one.

Why would this be a hoax? It's an official announcement from Lego themselves. Also, I don't think that this is PF 2.0. Why? Because of the fact that connectors are not stackable, and smart motors are not needed for most Technic applications within sets. Why would Lego replace the relatively cheap PF motors with more expensive smart ones for Technic? I hear a lot of talk about Lego converging the PF and Mindstorms motors, but there is no reason to do so from a business perspective. Furthermore, the use cases for each motor type do not overlap. I think Boost and WeDo 2.0 are actually more likely to preview next generation Mindstorms motors, as Mindstorms does need smart motors, and the connectors look better than the current ones, being more compact and easier to use.

Since you already have 8421, I'd say get 8043.You will not regret it. I'd say hold off on 42009. It's bigger than 8421, but it doesn't do a whole lot more.

Looks like Cybermaster 2.0. I like that it has more features and power than WeDo, but is not as expensive as EV3. I wonder why Lego has both this and WeDo 2.0, though. So, it looks like the move hub has only two input/output ports, but I'd really love to see detailed pictures of the components before I judge. I like how expressive the robot and the cat are, there have to be some nice building techniques there to make them move like that. Shame about the wonky, non-stackable connectors, but that shouldn't be too much of an issue with more ports. I'm kind of surprised they did not use the WeDo 2.0 M motor, but it looks to be compatible. The Boost (L?) Motor looks pretty blocky, but that might be a good thing. As I've stated before, I really hope that Lego does not use these ports for PF 2.0, but I have my doubts. After all, the Boost motors would be more expensive to make, and for most Technic applications, smart motors are not needed. Also, this may show that Lego is willing to jump to Bluetooth and tablets for control, which could lead to better PF stuff. Edit: I found a picture: As I suspected, the main brick only has two inputs/outputs, and they are using the WeDo 2.0 connectors. But, it looks like it does have 2 built in motors, like ye olde cybermaster. I wonder how many batteries it takes, I can't quite tell.

Oh come on, I've got a Jan. 2017 catalog right here with me, and only the four smallest 2017 sets are in it. But, I'm not worried. The catalogs didn't show the 2H 2016 sets until after they came out, and I think that's what's happening. Having sets not come out in the US is incredibly rare, because we are a huge market.

No, I'm just a little bit surprised they managed to do so. But, I think there is a line between having good security, and getting the hype train rolling. But, with the bootleg Porsches, maybe Lego went for more security. On the other hand, I don't think anybody buys the knockoffs, but IIRC, Lego is trying to do more stuff in the Chinese market, which is where most of the bootlegs are probably bought. That's a problem lots of companies have, not just Lego. But, that's an issue far larger than this thread. I'll leave it at that. Also, Apple didn't do no leaks. They were just careful to do it in such a way as to whip the fans into a frenzy without tipping their hand to competitors.

So, this is surprising, there is absolutely no information on the 2H sets, when in years past there has been information at least by mid December. I'm hoping that Lego has something mind blowing under wraps to make this wait worthwhile. As an aside, does anyone know if there are any toy fairs between now and Feb.? I know the Nuremburg one is Feb. 1st, I'm just wondering if anyone knows of any ones that happen sooner.

Indeed, I was all like "Is this 2h info?" Only to be disappointed by how it's just Sariel's review, which has it's own thread.

How do my complaints not make any sense? I'm not saying that 42065 should be cheaper, my main gripe is the lack of technical complexity. Also, where are you getting the $70 for PF parts? I went on the Lego website, and added up all the prices, and I got about $50. I honestly don't believe that 42065 would be a loss leader, unless it somehow magically costs more to include PF parts in a set than to sell them seperately. Even so, since we don't know about the complexities of Lego's production system, it's impossible to say for sure. As a fan, I want a Technic set to be at least somewhat technically interesting, to show me new things, but this set isn't for people like me. It's more for kids who just want something to drive around, or people who are just getting into Technic and want RC parts. So, it's not a bad set, for some people.

Another thing you missed is that the B model does not have suspension either. By the way, where did you hear that Lego was barely making any money? I seriously doubt that Lego would be. I mean, in Euros, the PF parts cost 53,50, and the set costs 79,99. In the US, the difference is even larger. So, are you telling me that Lego makes no profit selling individual PF components, or that it costs them the same price to include PF parts in a set as it costs to buy? I don't think that's the case, at all. Also, I think you were being a bit biased this time, which is a bit odd. I think you should have added an additional statement to people who won't like this set, and that's anyone looking for something that is technically interesting to assemble. It feels rather bare bones and boring, and I'm really surprised that you gave it 4 stars for building experience. And, I'm not so sure that it's that good a starter set. I'd say it would almost be better to buy the PF parts and a $30 set instead, because with this set, the extra $30 gets you no gears, and no suspension. I mean, at this price point, could they have not included a subtractor? But, that's just my opinion. Or, maybe you want people to get this set, so that Lego makes some more simple RC sets?

It's been pointed out before, but you're right. The wings in particular need improvement. Interestingly, in spite of not wanting to produce military vehicles, Lego has produced a set that is basically an F-22, and now a F-35. But, it would be cool if there was a stunt jet that was VTOL in real life.

Very interesting, but this will NOT be approved for Lego Ideas, as it is a military submarine, from WW2 Germany.

Amazingly, a prototype of that set had 4 wheel steering, but Porsche themselves nixed it for reasons unknown.

Let this sink in: This thing costs as much as several used SUVs I have seen on the internet. But, I am willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. Why? Maybe someone in his life wants him to get rid of it, so he puts it on ebay for a price he knows it won't sell for. But, I have seen people asking for $1.25 for a bog standard black 2L pin. So, ebay has a lot of crazy/high people.

Depending on what you consider to be "Beam" and "Produced". Lego did produce those 1x16 liftarms, even if only as prototypes. However, going by what is available in sets, you've got either the 15L liftarm, or the 16L technic beam. I kind of wish at times that Lego made some long beams made out aluminum or some kind of stronger plastic for truck frames, but I digress.

If you read the whole quote, it says one of the trucks has tracks instead of wheels, so I think it refers to 42065, and the other one is 42062. Maybe CM4Sci is on Flickr, or something. If somebody were to go find him, maybe we could get more info?

This is incorrect. You don't have enough friction in the drive train of the respective functions to prevent them from being driven when the clutch is not engaged.