Driver Brandon Grumman

I have actually been expecting you my dear! I'm glad you are finally able to hop onto the bandwagon. My concern is mainly for City. City's adult fan base is just as large as the child fan base. They won't tell you that though. However, I do stand corrected in the matter that TLG doesn't listen to its adult fanbase. But I am fully aware that there are AFOLs who work for the LEGO company. Unfortunately from what I see in your paragraph, they obviously don't have much power over what gets passed through. Another thing that I want to correct you on is the fact that you said that not only do they have experience first hand of what AFOLs like and dislike, but they also pay very close attention to feedback from AFOL fansites. I never said that there weren't any people there that don't listen to AFOLs or TFOLs (Teen Fans Of Lego) for that matter. Matter of fact, I know that there are people at TLG who are listening to us. Let's look at my favorite theme, City for example. Look at the goodies that we're going to be getting in 2020. Not only is classic police returning - the only police stations that are really meaningful to me btw (not that I want to start an entire discussion on that), but we are also getting an ice cream truck, a new service station, some race cars, a tuning shop and even some other town related sets. Construction even looks like its gonna make a comeback for Christensen's Sake! Pun intended. Now we have yet to know what the In/Out sets are, but I can't wait until they're revealed. I hope its a line of work that City has never even thought to touch on. Though I do think that they have touched on pretty much every line of work. Not sure. My point is, there are designers that do listen to all fans. Not just children. They just don't have much power. I agree there 100%. I personally would filter out the hateful comments. But if I want to be a good designer, I do have to listen to recommendations given from AFOLs and TFOLs as well as CFOLs. That way I can come up with ideas that not only help us to prosper, but also be useful in both entertainment and education as well. The City Division of Lego has been slacking a little bit in that recently. NOT A LOT! Just a little. I do have to admit that the mega sets that we've been getting were actually a step up. Its actually given me hope. The polybags too. They may be the pipsqueaks, but I still get them. My most recent acquirement was that popcorn machine. Slapped a couple of those right in the middle of my town. I don't think the explorers themes are a bad thing like people think. No, they aren't really based in the city limits (like the theme implies), but they still educate on lines of work based in the field of science, archaeology and discovery. That's something I never expected from City and frankly speaking - I am impressed. Sky Police was probably the only subtheme under City that didn't really impress. Apparently, they didn't really impress children either, thus the slow sales for this year so far. The only sky police sets I really thought were meaningful were 60207 Sky Police Drone Chase because it ties in with the fire sets because of the statue that the crook tries to steal and the 60239 Police Patrol Car. I would've held off on making that a full theme. I guess Christmas is the real test for that one. The City theme would probably be my main concern since I have the most experience with building towns over anything involving Lego. Oh please! Honey, I know first hand about how it feels to not have your customers satisfied with your efforts - even when things are beyond your control. I have pretty much worked with people my entire career life. I work on cars and drive a bus part time - though I think I may change the latter to full time because I prefer cleaner work. I personally wouldn't let it bother me. I wouldn't call TLG's efforts pathetic. Some of them are either just not really thought out very well or just....well.....weird. Especially for the City theme, which is supposed to be based on realism. But that's just my five dollars though. Nothing to break your bricks over. Unfortunately.....following their hearts TOO MUCH seems to be the problem. I do have to disagree with you there. Designers should listen to both sides of the fandom when it comes to trying new things out. My friend works at a Lego store and one time, he took the liberty to do a survey with the customers to see what they like about every theme Lego had for that time. He actually told me that on most of the surveys, people wrote that they loved the vehicles and buildings. They didn't necessarily say police sets. Matter of fact, very few said that they loved police sets. However, I must agree with you on this point. Designers are under lots of pressure. Some of the TFOLs on those surveys went as far as to chastise City for the fact that they haven't touched on very many lines of work in the city and it being overshadowed by rescue and science themed jobs. I'm also not surprised that TLG takes our feedback with a grain of salt. But I think you do have the patience to put up with it. You've put up with my rants several times and have never lost your cool. Kudos to you. No issues there! The only problem I had with it was that I would often be frustrated because I didn't know how to back up my claims against your overwhelmingly long essays about why what TLG is doing is fine. But I have no issues with you now. Give me a follow?

Too true ol chap! But arguments against the unusual police themes are most likely to receive the most opposition on Eurobricks.

Don't remind me. Truthfully speaking, I only count the classic police sets as the only real police sets. Heck, it was classic police that started it all. Those extra special police sets mean nothing.

.....and because of that, they are both still on the shelves. In my opinion, hospitals should do 3 year rotations like police stations and fire stations do.

....and a street sweeper is coming too. My hope is that some of the unknown sets are part of a new construction subtheme.

Ikr! What's Lego's problem? They deliberately sell things under other themes that should really be sold under the City theme. Friends is a prime example. Same with Creator and Hidden Side.

Given previous statements of mine, I think I would prefer to be proven wrong too. Like my thoughts on a police and explorers set free year for LEGO City causing chaos or certain subthemes being unlikely for the City theme.

I said the same thing about the townhouse toy store that's suppose to come for Creator in 2020, considering that we got a toy store from City with set number 60233. So I don't think its unlikely.

Thank You Captain Obvious! But we kinda want one from City.

I'm also waiting for a school from City. I mean, all they have to do is do some recoloring and some tweaks to Friends set number 41134.

Yeah. That kinda sucks. But I would like to keep hope alive that they will do it one day. But yeah. I was hoping for another subtheme. I guess the Lego City Adventures kinda count as the other theme for the summer. Next years police in my opinion, is the best police theme out there. Why? Because that police theme fits under City as it is in the city limits. In my opinion, City needs to stay within the City limits. Other people can bust my chips about it all they want to. They're not my heart. Fire only comes every three years. It's just two fire sets coming next year. So I don't really have a big issue with the fire sets. Police stations is a totally different subject. I do have to agree though. I mean why call it Lego City if we almost only see police sets, explorers sets and great vehicles? Probably because it'll be easier for children to understand. But the system, while it does help Lego City stay alive, kinda defeats the purpose. At least two years from now, I'm betting that City will be split into two halves and renamed renamed Lego Police and Lego Explorers. I could. But I have OCD. It wouldn't look right to me. I mean you can do it. But I won't.

I have to agree there. I would love to see train cars such as a mail car, a jail car and a see saw car and buildings such as stations, sheds, workshops and signal boxes.

@AnyColourYouLike Tbh, we technically got a construction theme in 2015. It was called Demolition Experts though - which was in a way an extension to Construction. Why they decided to do that instead of just reviving the better selling and more popular construction subtheme, I don't know. My assumption was to desperately attract kids. Didn't work apparently. Obviously it backfire tremendously considering that it was one of those one and done subthemes. Similar to the Garage subtheme from 2009. Given that the latter exited the shelves almost immediately after they were released, it must've been one of those subthemes that TLG wanted to get rid of FAST!!!!!! Anyhoo! I also hope that the City takes one year to focus on the little jobs. I'm still protesting this, but I really want to see a Buses subtheme. It was initially Metro Transit, but then trains would have to be included. But Trains is already used so...yeah! That's out of the question. I also hope to see a Postal Service subtheme, a Pizza Delivery subtheme and a revival of the Medical, Harbor and Cargo subthemes from the 2000s. I also wished for an Automotive subtheme. But I think that's what set numbers 60256, 60257 and 60258 are tied in to an upcoming automotive theme. I do worry that these won't happen however considering that TLG needs to save their bricks for more "important" subject matters such as police and explorers.

In my opinion, Airport is one of the City subthemes that should be on a 3 year rotation. Construction and Medical should be on a three year rotation too.

I'd listen to adult fans along with the child fans. Especially when it comes to town, sci-fi and Technic sets since those have a large adult fanbase.

I'd also like to see a Mercedes G Wagon.

Very impressive. I do wish I could see one for City though.

I don't really want to run the entire company. But if I could be in charge of making the City sets, oh what fun that would be.

Oh wow. So I'm assuming they have went a step further by merging Heartlake City with Lego City.

@knotian @HawkLord Both of you bring up good points. Lego will never go out of style. Toy companies come. Toy companies go. Lego goes on forever! I'm following the both of you.

Well I'll tell you what. Even if it gets unaffordable for kids, which I doubt it ever will, we AFOLs will always be willing to give newer brickheads a helping hand. Likely they won't even care how expensive it is. Whoever agrees has to give me a follow. Sorry, I'm trying to get some followers on here.

I think the houses and modulars from Creator are canon to City because Harl Hubbs from LEGO City Adventures has some of the houses from Creator in his promo picture's background.

Amazing, out of this world and top notch! I could actually use something like this in my town.

I wouldn't call this off topic. I'm sorry to say however that unfortunately there is only one wave a year. I recommend the Camaro ZL1 stock car. I have that one. I personally hope Lego releases the Mustang and supra stock cars.

True enough