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So time for some offense... cause I'm confident in my vote that Penelope is the last scum. Going backwards in time here: Rambling bunch of nothing here, except for the part in the middle digging for info on doctors and Person A. Hmmm... Scum or dumb? Oh wait, that's going into the policy lynch realm again. So more seriously... is this legit ignorance (and laziness, since there's so many references out there to look things up) or scum trying to act like they don't know what's going on with the scum? Blatant bandwagoning here. Pen's vote wasn't even needed - Terrence was already lynched before she placed this vote, so it was just scum solidifying the lynch of a town rather than voting for a teammate. Also, still more digging for info on roles! More digging for info on the investigator and communicator. Plus, obviously willing to lynch town. And telling the vig to take out me or Candy, knowing the whole time that Candy was the far more likely target and able to be protected, wasting the vig kill. Now, I know this isn't the most solid list of evidence in the history of Mafia. HOWEVER, note that this is practically all Pen's said in the last 3 days! Her posts are so rare that it's hard to find anything because she just doesn't talk. And MOST of the posts she did make were complete nothing. It's easy to hide as scum when you just don't ever talk. Seriously, Penelope, can you point out ANYTHING you've contributed to the town?

Added numbers so it's obvious what I'm referring to... 1. Hard to explain exactly what the first Priscilla was thinking, but I'll try. I do note that in Adelaide's comment (and quoted by Priscilla) she said it's more viable on the first day since there's little to go on. So seems to me like just asking for clarification, since Adelaide said she was against policy lynch but then said it feels more viable day 1. Rereading it now, it appears that Ade was saying she still was against it even though it seems viable, but why is asking for clarification from someone scummy? 2. No explaination for missing day 2 since I wasn't here... but keep in mind that Priscilla #1 eventually had to leave (ie there obviously were other demands on her time), so don't hold that against me. 3. Not really wild speculation when I was QUOTING what someone else had already said. Not sure why Priscilla #1 didn't look into it further, but then again, why didn't any of the rest of you either? 4. Everyone is throwing out suspicions in the early days of the hunt. Why does me doing it look any scummier than any of the rest of you? It wasn't enough to base a vote on and the very next post that day was Dexter complaining that the vote was already too divided, so me not casting a vote elsewhere was a GOOD THING for town, not a scummy act. 5. What do you mean that post was nothing but repeating? I was making my list AS REQUESTED. Note #1 here, I put Colin forward. He turned out to be a SK, so I WAS RIGHT ON HIM. Even if I was scum I couldn't have know he was SK, but since I'm town it truly was a solid entry on the list. Then I listed Dog, like basically everyone else did, so I didn't want to repeat everyone else's info. I did put forth a new question to him though, about why he posted when supposedly barred from doing so. Then finally, Rolfe, I quoted him twice to make a point. So when Patricia makes this supposedly damning post that I contributed nothing with my list and was jus trepeating or saying I wouldn't repeat, she was full of crap. Yes, my list had common names because we were all suspious of some of the same people. But I DID make new arguments on Dog and Rolfe, so her response was a steaming pile. Gotta run, but there's a start. Happier now?

AGAIN?!?! This nonsense... I didn't see this long post till today (real time), so not sure why you think I was ignoring you last night when it was posted. Maybe I was on a different part of EB, or maybe I just missed you and left but the site still showed me as here. ANYWAY... I'll go over it here and respond. Give me a few minutes...

You're right, I'd forgotten the list. I know that I'm a legit Malone, so that means it must be you. No reason to dicker around then: Vote: Penelope (Palathadric)

yep, good that you (whoever you are) didn't protect Colin. Now we've gotta take advantage of this and make sure we lynch the right person tonight.

For the Malones! Glad the scum killed Colin for us, I just wasn't sure I trusted his vig claim. So then, I gotta think we lost our vig very early on.... sucks for us, coulda been done with this mess a long time ago. Gotta figure we've got one scum left. Who? I think you're going to say me, but that's wrong. I'm wavering between Peter and Pen - both have been just too quiet. Flown under the radar all game, so now time to look at their rare speech and see if they've slipped up anywhere. Kristina - hopefully the last night here, so anything to share? Got any comment on Colin turning up not one of us?

So there was a scum kill. Wonder why it came so late? Can't wait to see the reveal.... hoping since we lost him that Colin really was a SK. I'm pretty confident we were right on Candy, but not sure Colin made the right choice on Ceb. Supposedly there was info that wasn't shared with us all (understandably), so I just hope it was right.

Ok, why does it say Tam hates his entire family, and with such good reason? Sounds to me like a hint that we did NOT get two scum last night, but rather a town and scum or even two town. Well, probably not 2 town, since if we assume we had 3 scum left before this, then the game would be over. So maybe Colin was wrong AGAIN on killing Cebastian? OR, we did lynch Candy just on the word of Colin that he was unsuccessful in killing her. If she comes up town, then I think colin has some 'splainin' to do... heck, if either one does.

Ooooh, look at the scummo! Talking about the vig being a SK, and discussing what PRs we might have left. OBVIOUSLY that means she HAS to be scum, right? Or does that logic only apply to me? [ / sarcasm]

Vote: Candy (Captain Nemo)

We need to consider Colin at some point, since if he IS SK then we have to take him out to win. As long as scum are going down, great, we can wait on him. But if all the scum are gone then we'd have to take him out since A) that's part of our win condition and B) he'll take out town. Heck, at this point he's batting 0 in taking out scum, so, not sure just how valuable he's been to us. You SAY he's working with us, but it sure looks questionable (yes, I know he's been taking out suspected people, and we haven't exactly done great at getting scum either, but still... ) And bulletproofness doesn't prove SK, but it sure suggests it. I'd say a SK is much more likely to be bulletproof than a vig. Did he take hardhat, I don't recall him ever saying that. If he did, then it would likely have been to make sure no one ELSE had it, since he couldn't have known who else got the riddle right. And whether you're vig or SK, you sure wouldn't want anyone else being kill-proof. But more importantly, you can scratch all that logic out the window because he did NOT take the hard hat. *I* took it. Well, the previous Priscilla did, but whatever. I didn't say anything before because it didn't seem relevant with all the hoopla about the infamous list. But what this does show is that he did not take it (sorry, I don't know what order I took it, so I can't say whether he had the chance to take it or not - so perhaps it wasn't an option for him, but perhaps it was and he passed it up because he didn't need it.) Now that I think about it, didn't he take the extra vote?

If I was scum trying to save Dex, then yes, I would have made sure to be around at the last minute to switch my vote. That's what I was being accused of. The fact that I wasn't doesn't prove that I'm town (since as you point out, most scum won't reveal themselves to save another), but it does negate that accusation. And that's exactly why I specifically said to WAIT TO REVEAL IT. There's no reason to tell the scum that info today. However, TOMORROW it will be vital in judging whether to lynch Colin as SK or trust him as town vig. And with only 5-6 people left then, it'll be worth revealing it in order to make that decision, IMHO.

Dang, everyone keeps just throwing out that I'm scummy, and Cebastian is the only one who's actually given any REASONS... so, let me answer his thoughts from earlier.... (numbered your comments to make it easier to respond) 1. Actually, there's a lot more to my reasoning on that Dex vote than just saving myself. I gave plenty of justification for the vote even without it being for my own defense. And since when is trying to save myself - when I know that I'm town - NOT behaving townie? Of course a townie wants to save themselves over a scum! 2. That response was to Pen saying that I'm scum and would have changed my vote to save Dexter. And I was saying the same thing as you - I had no reason to save Dex and my not being around proved that - if I was scum, I would have made a point of being around to change my vote last minute to save him. 3. No, I wasn't asking who the investigator was or anything like that. I was asking what INFO they had, since we're near the end and it's critical that we don't lynch any more town! So even if all the investigator had was confirmation of who is town that's left, that's still valuable info. We can't afford any mistakes! 4. You use a single word choice to try to say I'm scum? Get a life. That was obviously in the context that I was stating how the scum would see it, so of course I used terms that represented their perspective. 5. Again with the hypotheticals as to people's roles. Not like I was stating anything but the obvious there. So again, get over it. Satisfied yet? Everything you pointed out was baseless and pointless. Now, as for today... we've got 7 people left. We can officially state that the scum had 4 members at most, since we've gotten 1 and the game isn't over. I think it's pretty obvious that Candy is one of the remaining scum. So tonight's lynch should be easy. After that and whoever Colin kills (assuming he's actually on our side and hunting scum...) we'll see. I'm still not confident on him anymore since he survived too. You gotta think the scum targetted him. So either we've got a protector left that protected the right person, or he's bulletproof and therefore a SK. So for that reason, can anyone confirm whether or not we still have a protector? Wait till tomorrow on that, since tonight we can lynch Candy and there's no rush to consider Colin till tomorrow night. But at that point, I think the existence of a protector (or lack of one) will be vital info to make the right call on him.

I didn't say my allegiance would change. I meant that whatever someone else did/said in this body, I don't know any more that you do (ie what was said publicly) about their thinking. That's why I can't speak much to anything said before I took over. But I'll try if you've got any actual suspicions other than "oooh, Priscilla is scummy"

Ok, so if there's no scum kill... why not? Did they get blocked? Did the target have protection? Or is the target bulletproof? I gotta assume the scum would have targetted Colin. He's the only logical choice at this point for them. (*maybe* if I were them I'd hit Kristina, but really, I don't see her as near the threat with her communication skill as a killer is) So then it'd sure be nice to have an answer to the questions - at least an answer to were they stopped or is he bulletproof? Cause bulletproof would sure imply SK to me! I know I've been saying he's gotta be a vig, but with no scum kill appearing, I'm really starting to reconsider SK. So colin, got any explanation for why you're alive? Having slept a bit, I gotta respond harder to this. So you think I'm scum. Why? Got any evidence so I can defend myself? What have I done that seems scummy to you? All I've done is try to help hunt the Ferraris. I know some of you were thinking scum before I took over this body. I can't speak to what Priscilla #1 did/said, but heck, I'll try to if you can point anything out. What makes you think I'm scum?

Nope, you beat me. Town's still got the prize though, so good for us. I assume from the "doubly special" in the scene that you get a double vote in the next lynch?

By you guys, I assume you're saying I'm scum? I wouldn't know what the scum planned or tried or failed. I'm just hoping I won the riddle so I can use whatever gift the riddler gives to help the town win this thing.

Seriously Cebastien, what's with the car thing? I'm tempted to vote for you just for that!

Ok... so third party options here. Since I don't think Colin is a SK, what does that leave? 1. Tam is playing us by mentioning 3rd parties in the rules. Certainly possible. But assuming not, maybe a weirder 3rd party role? So I read up on mafiascum wiki.... 2. Lyncher - I briefly thought Terrance could be this with how much he kept pushing Colin, but then I remembered he didn't even vote for Colin! So scratch that. And I haven't seen anyone else pushing a single person for lynching enough to be this. 3. Unlyncher - nope, no signs point to this either. 4. Survivor - possible - there's multiple people being very quiet, trying apparently to stay under the radar the whole game. So, my personal feeling is we've got either NO 3rd party, or a survivor out there.

Really, you're worried that I mentioned possible PR on DAY SIX? There's only a few town left and I have no doubt that the scum have considered every possibility six ways till Sunday as to who the PRs are. I didn't say anything they haven't thought many times I'm sure. And are you going blind or senile? That's not bernie at the table with Colin and Kristina - that's Tam. Or are you so scummy you don't even recognize your own boss?

Well, let's use Terrance's list as a basis here... There's 3-4 scum left, including Terrance. So with him lynched, that leaves 2 or 3 to find. Cebastien, I'd lean slightly town, but not solid read either way. Could easily be a scum. Kristina, town. Colin, I still think vig is a better fit than SK, mostly since there was no first kill. Candy - surviving a vig kill, obvious scummo. So obvious that even your scum buddy had to call you scum. Peter, seems like quiet town. Perhaps a PR for us? Priscilla, I know I'm town. And Penelope, like peter, too quiet. So either town PR or scum. Just gut feeling that it's her that's scum, but it's just a weak gut feeling. So from me, I'm calling Candy a scum (duh), along with Penelope if I had to pick a second. If there's a third, Peter or Ceb. As for a third party, I don't think we have a SK. There haven't been enough dead. So what else could it be? Seems too small of a group for mason or cult. What crazy other option could Tam have thrown at us?

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Why *wouldn't* we have that collection of roles? The only thing I can't explain is the scum letting Colin live, but maybe they thought we had/have a protector guarding him so went for a more sure target? As for the roles, since no one's come forward with info (other than the communicator, and then a vig late in the game), there has been nothing public to base kills (for town OR scum) on, so unless the scum have a role cop, they're killing blind too as to roles. Kristina, given that it's so near the end, any reason NOT to clarify everything possible at this point? If there's an unkillable investigator, I can't think of ANY possible reason they're still silent.

A few left to vote, and Terrance has been strangely quiet for someone about to be lynched. Giving up already, scummo?