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I think we have to accept that lego is just not a tech savvy company. Hidden Side was an expected disaster and that whole range has been pulled after 2 years, some models just getting 6 months before EOL. Great shelf warmers in stores as people want them even less than the Friends Kart track sets. The money wasted on developing the APP and advertising thrown down the drain whilst no one remembered to give a thought to designing a box where you can actually see the product or as to whether kids want to combine Lego with apps is astounding and smacks of arrogance. It might have worked if they had used Harry Potter or Star Wars as a base product but not a totally new line. PU was an overdue replacement for PF but Lego overthought it and produced something that is clunky, barely moddable and overpriced with no real power output advantages over PF plus you have to supply the control device and there is no support for older iOS or Android. People can defend PU/ control + all they want but the bare truth is that the connectivity and modularity between motors is worse than before and the only slight benefits are Bluetooth over IR to help give a bit more reception distance and some more practical holes on the motors to fit them in place. Compare it with any RC device and it is a joke, however. The flagship sets all move at a crawl and devour batteries. The smaller ones like Top Gear and Buggy are bare bones models to keep them light enough to move but are really only Technic by brand. Initially we could give them breathing space but we are 2 years in now and still waiting for a rechargeable battery box and independent control device. AS TLG have a history of being stubborn, we are going to be lumped with it for another ten years or more unless people vote in a meaningful way and stop buying PU products. There is a huge window in the market for third party developes to create something really special but it´s sad that TLG don´t have the ability to do it in-house. The laziness of no longer making technic B models and the bloated range of new parts that seem to only have one use smacks of the problems that almost brought them to their knees at the beginning of the millennium, yet for the moment sales seem to be holding up maybe thanks to the spread in use of brand licences.

I have a feeling and hope for the second. Unimog and Arocs were both PF but non RC and are two of the best flagships. Do we really want or need another 42070, 42099 or 42114 like model, crawler slow with no interesting functions?

Similar ground clearance? 42077 was non licensed so substantially cheaper than the 911 and 488. The basic chassis is the same for all of them so they are somewhat silhouette type vehicles.

Real racing cars use stickers. I dont see the problem, if you don´t like them don´t apply them. Using printed parts for such big logos would probably look awful (see the creator Mustang and all the problems it had with misaligned prints) and the you couldn´t reuse the parts for other builds either.

This is another example of corporate greed and obsession with trying to be all things to all people. In the end they get tripped up by their own protocols, which even their own high ranking employees obviously don´t understand. I thought that temporarily pulling the City Police Sets and redoing the head of the minifig from the Star Wars Resistance Bomber were already PC gone mad but this decision actually seems common sense compared to those. We could debate whether the origins of the "cuddly" VW Beetle also make it unsuitable to market but in the end if Lego don´t do it someone else will. I would not lose sleep about any of the 2020 sets being cancelled as they are really nothing special. Some people are going to get rich quick if they have got stock and the set is never released.

The gearbox has saved it from mediocrity.

That there are no B models on big sets is not a deal breaker for me as much as the fact that these sets are rehashes of very similar sets released onlly a couple of years ago. The combination of those two aspects plus the inherent limitations of the new power functions standard means there is less and less creativity used and offered. The use of big moulded parts on stuff like the cement mixer takes Lego technic one step closer to Playmobil. The Sian is a worthy addition and I will likely get one when it goes 40-50% off RRP but my wallet is staying in my pocket for all the other sets.

Not doing it for me. If you own the Chiron then you have the Sian. If you have 6x6 tow truck then you have the Volvo. The other 2 sets are OK but nothing to write home about. Give me a Claas tractor or 9397 logging truck over them any day. This was a missed opportunity to do a backhoe or something else we haven´t had for a longer while.

Those are C models as they are all lazy remakes!

So, in summary 2020 is the year of the license and the confirmed death of the B model. Good luck finding a set with no official license and a B Model.

I was in very early with the hate for this set. It´s 42070 in yellow and that´s all she wrote. For me, this is the worst year for 1HY Technic in a long time and 2HY is not much better. The Lambo and Volvo are just reworkings of the Bugatti and 42070. The Osprey is Ok and the Ducati is good but 2015 and 2016 were vintage years in comparison.

I think they may have given priority to Boost and a few other side applications like the SW Droid and Batmobile and forgot the core values of Technic and Lego in general. Another glaring omission in this day and age is no rechargeable battery pack. Not very ecological as some users will buy one use alkaline batteries as they are so cheap. When Powered Up was first unveiled, all these limitations were discusses in the community yet 2 years later, little to nothing has been done and likely never well. PF was getting long in the tooth and had the basic I/R limitation as well as the difficulty in integrating motors and battery boxes due to the lack of connection points but it seems that we lost a lot of the flexibility and simplicity that system had.

I wouldn´t call PU flexible as it has more limitations in terms of what you can use it for and the number of motors that can be connected to one hub. I am pretty sure RC cars are not using bluetooth or any so complicated yet you get more power and can have proportional steering and acceleration. For me it´s an own goal by Lego that we will be stuck with for another ten or more years and goes totally against the product philosphy of building what you want.

Exactly, 2 years down the line, PU still seems over-complicated and over-priced for the nominal benefits in brings and all the inherent and unwanted limitations. Do I need to have a degree in programming or electrical engineering just to be able to connect 3 or 4 motors to my own designs? Do we really need so many different iterations of battery boxes and motors? I also have to provide my own controller via a smartphone and depend on an app that may or may not exist or be compatible in a few years. All that just to get bluetooth connectivity.

I hope for but don´t expect a B model. It could even be 2 ceiling fans but for the love of god do something Lego!

3pm CET on Thursdays is a favourite time for press releases. You´ll get sucked in by a free promo or a discount at some point down the line!!!!

Nice model but if you have the Chiron then you have 95% of this already. Main changes are the better doors and front suspension and a couple of new panels. Of course TLG know that people who have the 911 and Chiron will buy this anyway but i would say it´s less of a step forward mechanically than the Chiron was from the 911 and we need to wait for reviews to see of the execution is better e.g. less friction, no sagging suspension.

Perhaps the difference is these are actual pictures of the real box and not watermarked catalogue pictures. If Lego have made the set available to people other than reviewers who are embargoed till 1st June, then it is fair game to publish pics of the set.

Better than the A model and better than all the 2020 official sets revealed so far, in my opinion.

So maybe they just kept last year´s exhibition lots in storage and brought them out again.

Was the booth the same surface area as an Ikea coffee table? Seems like they didn´t take the NY fair very seriously in terms of showing any new products. Maybe they had a hand luggage only allowance.

Fixed it for you. I dunno why they bothered going to NY fair with nothing to show, to be honest.

If it´s on display then it is pretty much final. 42039 was just box art.

42030 is the only flagship since Unimog that I haven´t owned as a personal build. I had one half price but sold it to buy another set. I feel 42070 and this one are under par offerings compared with Arocs, BWE, Unimog, MK2 and Liebherr. 42030 and 42082 sit somewhere in the middle.

Yes +1. If you are going to have the same mechanical underpinnings with all open diffs then it will be just as useless off road and there don´t seem to be any wow factor extra functions to compensate. I guess this will boost sales of the Liebherr as its price goes closer to 250 euros. I guess I am down as the backhoe would have been way more exciting and this particular truck was already done as the 42030 B with 2 less wheels 5 years ago.