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1 hour ago, Jundis said:

I think nobody interested in Technic would disagree.

At least TLG should give us more variety in cars, not only in scale but also car types. Older cars would be way more interesting and could also boost cool features.

For example big Audi Quattro from 80s with front mounted inline 5 engine and some sort of limited slip diff, Corvette convertable with retractable roof, Citroen 2CV with pneumatic suspension, .... even just a "normal" car with front mounted engine and front wheel drive would be more interesting than the 20th supercar with V8...12 engine in the back.

On the bright side, we get 20+ technic sets every year now. Even when half of them are cars, we got 10 sets that are not :D

It was Citroën ds, wich had the pneumatic suspension:). 

Posted
8 hours ago, Jundis said:

At least TLG should give us more variety in cars, not only in scale but also car types. Older cars would be way more interesting and could also boost cool features.

Yeah, this. If it's got to be cars, at least make those more varied and more interesting. +1 for older cars and also I think off-roaders are underrepresented nowadays (I have the feeling that there used to be more a decade ago), and they are opportunities for more interesting and challenging suspensions and drivelines. At least some of this year's cars represent good direction, like the Bronco. Keep that up!

Posted
9 hours ago, Paul B Technic said:

If it has to be more cars, maybe an update for 8070, that had some cool features, like the doors and opening features.

At that time, people bashed it because it had those "gimmicky" gearbox-based motorised functions instead of a gearbox dedicated to an engine transmission and manual functions.

That, as well as seeing how 8275 is appreciated nowadays and equally bashed when it came out, makes me think people will look back with fondness for the sets being launched nowadays.

  • 4 weeks later...
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But i wonder. Since lego wants to make cars. Why they can't make a interesting van model. Since they have mercedes license. I think about 130€ sprinter with independent suspension at the front, live axle at the back, 2009 crane truck style crane and with working dump bed. That would sell like hot cakes. To casual car fans(who don't want a full supercar collection) and some technic fans:). 

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20 hours ago, Auroralampinen said:

But i wonder. Since lego wants to make cars. Why they can't make a interesting van model. Since they have mercedes license. I think about 130€ sprinter with independent suspension at the front, live axle at the back, 2009 crane truck style crane and with working dump bed. That would sell like hot cakes. To casual car fans(who don't want a full supercar collection) and some technic fans:). 

If we're talking about commercial vehicles with cranes and dump beds, TLG is making plenty of them. If we're talking about normal vans with no fancy functions, it's the same reason as why they don't make common cars that you see on the street every day: those don't have the fast-thing appeal of supercars and racecars, nor they have the rugged appeal of offroaders.

I agree that having a normal family car or even a normal van would be a real fresh breath to the endless line of fast cars but I don't see it happening. Seems that everything has to have some superlatives attached to it these days, be it fastest, biggest, strongest or whatever. There's no marketing appeal in normality.

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If there would be a public demand for Van...Be sure that you would already see that van on the Lego shelves in stores. I speculate if we will ever get a van it should be either icon of pop culture (A-Team, Home Alone, Dumb and Dumber (lol), etc), or maybe a camper van could sell better than Emirates Yacht. 

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Just look at all the technic MOCs people are doing. How many vans do you see? Simple as that. Same goes for cars in general. Tons of MOCs are cars. The distribution of MOCs is all the market research TLG needs. So the problem is not that there are too many cars. Rather the features those cars have. I wish TLG would look more into the features of MOCs people are trying to build but are struggling with because there aren't good enough solutions for. The new shorter suspension parts are a good step in this direction, because many people have been trying to build smaller cars with AWD and front suspension. I hope this trend of improving drivetrain and suspension components, especially at smaller scales continues.

In general a trend I see is that a large majority of car MOCs is RC, many at smaller scales than official RC sets, but with the current electronics components it is notoriously complicated to build smaller RC cars, even though better electronics components would technically be possible.

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1 hour ago, Oh_Hi_Mao said:

If there would be a public demand for Van...Be sure that you would already see that van on the Lego shelves in stores. I speculate if we will ever get a van it should be either icon of pop culture (A-Team, Home Alone, Dumb and Dumber (lol), etc), or maybe a camper van could sell better than Emirates Yacht. 

There were Volkwagen T1 and T2 camper vans but not in Technic. For the iconic pop culture models Technic might not be the best platform, as looks is very important and they might need lots of stuff beside the van itself and perhaps even minifigures, so I doubt Technic will ever see those.

  • 3 months later...
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What kind of new innovations do you expect in the new 1:8 supercar?

First here's a rough description of what parts and innovations we got with each release:

  • 42056 - New parts: rims and tires, fenders, smooth axle joiners for gearbox. 4 Speed sequential gearbox with 4 forward and 4 reverse gears
  • 42083 - New parts: Rims, 20 tooth clutch gear, wave selector, hubs with brake discs. Innovations comapred to previous release: AWD, 8 Speed gearbox with a seperate reverse, improved shifting meachanism, visible brake discs and calipers.
  • 42115 - New parts: Curved fender pieces and large frames. Innovations compared to previous release: Improved gearbox based on frames, door and spoiler actuating mechanisms, improved suspension.
  • 42143 - New parts: Larger wheels and tyres, stronger shock absorbers, reinforced differential, many new panels. Innovations compared to previous release:  Stiffer suspension, double pivot door mechanism.
  • 42172 - New parts: Suspension arms, Gearbox components such as drums, forks and shifting gears, 12 and 24 tooth clutch gear few new panels and the diagonal beam. Innovations compared to previous release: More robust and easier to use suspension system, a true 8 speed gearbox (not two 4-speeds) with a hybrid function, improved double pivot door mechansim with shock absorber, gear activated spoiler that stays in position.

From this rough list, IMO we got the most innovations with the 42083, 42143 and 42172.

What I would like to see:

  • New hubs based on 42160s that can accept large CV joints with larger brake calipers and longer steering arms to match the new larger wheels
  • Improved calipers that don't rely on flimsy droid arms and bars.
  • Larger fake engine components
  • Raisable suspension - especially in the front
  • How about a simple, yet working jack instead of the briefcases
  • More (clutch) gears such as 10, 14, 18 and 22 tooth to create a very compact and efficient inline gearbox
  • An SUV with larger wheels and tyres - the new shocks can easily support larger weight
  • A hybrid model that has a motorized FWD, but the RWD drives the usual gearbox and fake engine. Can be pushed manually or driven by motors. Working LEDs or opening doors
  • PURPLE COLOR

What new parts and innovations do you think we will get in 2026?

Posted (edited)

Working brake system with re-introduce of flex cable

Adjustable suspension and seat

Windshield

Bodykit tuned car

Edited by msk6003
Posted
6 hours ago, Zerobricks said:

What new parts and innovations do you think we will get in 2026?

Some new panel or other new shade of some existing color most proabaly :)

And why do we would need even larger wheels or engine parts? Yes, something for more compact gear box, or some multilink suspension. That would be good.

Posted (edited)

Smaller fake engine parts would be interesting to me, you could go down to 1.5 stud spaced cylinders while still using the current piston pieces, you'd just switch from the diagonal offset crank piece to the 2L thin beam with axle holes to make the crank 1/2 stud shorter between each pair of cylinders.  I'm not sure where you would take it out of the cylinder piece, though.  Maybe you could have a new offset conrod part and move the hole by 1/4 stud so it's centered in a 1.5 stud wide cylinder, and have the 2 engine banks 1/2 stud different, like they are on actual V-engines.

 

Another change to the fake engine parts could be pistons with all 4 pins on the same side of the cylinder instead of 2 on each side - uses space more efficiently, you could put a camshaft or something in the extra space.  Or just have it in a narrower car.SJ8kN32.png

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  • 2 weeks later...
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I don't think we'll ever see intentionally "wear-down-able" parts in an official model, at least friction-based brakes. Electric brakes, implemented by shorting the terminals of an electric motor, have been done for ages in MINDSTORMS, at least since the RCX era with the "Brake" motor mode. But, obviously, that can only be done in motorised models.

Posted

Would brakes need to accomplish anything beyond merely showing the movement of the parts similarly to a fake engine? Can the stopping power of brakes even be demonstrated properly with Lego cars (which are quite small and lightweight after all) as opposed to simply unpowering the motor?

Posted
9 minutes ago, howitzer said:

Would brakes need to accomplish anything beyond merely showing the movement of the parts similarly to a fake engine? Can the stopping power of brakes even be demonstrated properly with Lego cars (which are quite small and lightweight after all) as opposed to simply unpowering the motor?

I don't see any practical sense in implementing a breaking system in an electric RC car. It would only make sense in a gasoline powered RC car.

But a reinstallment of the 853 as a sort of driving school model of a car with all the internal technics would be really nice. And also very fitting for the 50th anniversary in 2027 :-P

Something like this, but more modern. This actually is a cool MOC idea with clutch, gearbox, breaking system front+back, driving, suspension and so on. 

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Posted

Next year will be the 49th anniversary, but most of the collections are still cars. I really don't know if the 50th anniversary can change anything. I hope

Posted

Most of passengers cars in the world are front wheel drive - so I would like Lego to release a FWD family car with gearboxes.

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