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2 hours ago, RODDY said:

REJOICE, UNITED STATES HAS A JUNE 1st RELEASE DATE FOR THE SUMMER WAVE AND THE EAST WING IS UP FOR PRE ORDER! 

Yes. That's so exciting. I just wish that the East wing wasn't $270 here . In fact, all the sets in this wave seem overpriced in the US in comparison to Euro. I was wondering if it had to do with the tariffs, but those were supposed to have ended. Could it be due to other global issues?

And I just saw the lifestyle image. We do get face prints and hair for Crabbe and Goyle. I had this feeling that they wouldn't give us a new face for Cat Hermione (even though I prefer the headpiece of the 2021 version) and the two cupcakes without including those two guys. The bigger question is the torsos. Are we going to be getting two extra Slytherin torsos, or are we supposed to use the ones from Draco Bulstrode? If so, that's going to make it harder to re-enact the interrogation scene. And Ginny also gets a new unconscious face print for when Riddle's diary is sucking the life essence out of her. It's an appreciated detail. 

3 hours ago, brickbride said:

Are the two corridors next to the bathroom able to house slide-out modules?

It doesn't look like it. And yeah, the empty corridors are a bummer; however, finding the petrified Ms. Norris (which happens in a hallway) is an important scene in the film and one that has never been represented in Lego before, so it's a bit of a trade off there unfortunately.  But which classrooms are supposed to be in the East wing in relation to the first two films? If it's DA or charms, they've already been done.

 

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@(1)Stein Aww, the stickered windows looked so much better in the Slytherin Common Room. And it originally had the CoS Entrance. What a shame - thanks for posting.

And, wait, so the set comes with a secret Crabbe and Goyle in their Slytherin uniforms - as shown in the official lifestyle shots? Wow...

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17 minutes ago, Black Falcon said:

I´d actually say the main appeal of this system is the exteriror Design. The only other versions that came even close to that would be the 2018 Hogwarts Castle and the Castle and Grounds Sets, while both previous Systems really weren´t that great if you wanted to Display a Castle. 

Especially when you compare it with the Main Tower Set is really looks small. The main tower is just way more impressive with its size, compared to the new Sets where many parts are used to build the viaduct bridge, which does make it look great. In the end, I can understand that they didn´t want to make the east wing even bigger and with that more expensive and I would expect them to have build it about in size compared to the other castle sections.

Yeah, the 2018 system was laid out in a line, and the 2021 system was kind of boxy. I got the Main tower recently, and it really does blow everything else in terms of size out of the water. In fact, the main tower portion (beginning at the grand staircase level) to the very top is slightly taller than the floor of the devil snare area to the top of the Gryffindor dorm room.  It's a shame that the East wing does seem smaller, even though it has more pieces, it does look proportionate to everything else which is nice and the other  product images show there is more room to place figures

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16 minutes ago, Legofan04 said:

And I just saw the lifestyle image. We do get face prints and hair for Crabbe and Goyle. I had this feeling that they wouldn't give us a new face for Cat Hermione (even though I prefer the headpiece of the 2021 version) and the two cupcakes without including those two guys. The bigger question is the torsos. Are we going to be getting two extra Slytherin torsos, or are we supposed to use the ones from Draco Bulstrode? If so, that's going to make it harder to re-enact the interrogation scene. And Ginny also gets a new unconscious face print for when Riddle's diary is sucking the life essence out of her. It's an appreciated detail.

From the picture it looks like we would have to use the other two Slytherins, which, as you said, would be a strange choice concidering we would need at least Draco himself. But if that wouldn´t be the case, they would have had both of them on the list of minifigures. Really wish they would have just gone that way though, since adding two more legs and torsos of an already included part, can´t be that hard, really.

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14 minutes ago, Black Falcon said:

Really wish they would have just gone that way though, since adding two more legs and torsos of an already included part, can´t be that hard, really.

Perhaps they have, and it's just not shown on the box? They've provided extra torsos and legs in sets before and not listed them as figures. Could be a similar situation to the Queer Eye set, where the extra parts were seen as a change of clothes.  The lifestyle image doesn't  show all the character parts in that particular image, and the box didn't show that having both as alternate faces was an option.

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47 minutes ago, Legofan04 said:

Yes. That's so exciting. I just wish that the East wing wasn't $270 here . In fact, all the sets in this wave seem overpriced in the US in comparison to Euro. I was wondering if it had to do with the tariffs, but those were supposed to have ended. Could it be due to other global issues?

I don’t want to get too political I know there’s a line for that stuff on Eurobricks so if this crosses that, mods just let me know and I’ll take it down. Tariffs are unfortunately effectively still in play, even after the Supreme Court struck them down as illegal. Trump turned around and issued a blanket 10% tariff on nearly all imports citing a different law. Then there’s the whole Strait of Hormuz situation which has significantly raised the price of oil, and you need oil to transport everything so that’s gonna also impact pricing. So the new prices while high seems in line with what’s been going on which is about $10/$20 increases across the board. Absolute mess unfortunately.

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9 minutes ago, RODDY said:

don’t want to get too political I know there’s a line for that stuff on Eurobricks so if this crosses that, mods just let me know and I’ll take it down. Tariffs are unfortunately effectively still in play, even after the Supreme Court struck them down as illegal. Trump turned around and issued a blanket 10% tariff on nearly all imports citing a different law. Then there’s the whole Strait of Hormuz situation which has significantly raised the price of oil, and you need oil to transport everything so that’s gonna also impact pricing. So the new prices while high seems in line with what’s been going on which is about $10/$20 increases across the board. Absolute mess unfortunately.

You do know that US Lego is made in the US and only small thing are imported from Denmark! ....🤔

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7 minutes ago, RODDY said:

I don’t want to get too political I know there’s a line for that stuff on Eurobricks so if this crosses that, mods just let me know and I’ll take it down. Tariffs are unfortunately effectively still in play, even after the Supreme Court struck them down as illegal. Trump turned around and issued a blanket 10% tariff on nearly all imports citing a different law. Then there’s the whole Strait of Hormuz situation which has significantly raised the price of oil, and you need oil to transport everything so that’s gonna also impact pricing. So the new prices while high seems in line with what’s been going on which is about $10/$20 increases across the board.

That's why I tried being vague, as I wasn't sure what the line was. But that's what I figured, although it's probably more the tariff situation then, since oil has gone up in other countries but the price of the sets hasn't.

At any rate, I thought the Main tower was $250 and not $260 lol. The $10 increase isn't too bad and well worth it still I think for all that's coming in it.

 

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1 hour ago, Black Falcon said:

 

12 hours ago, brickbride said:

There is nothing whatsoever going on in the roof area, I would at the very least have expected them to use the two larger turrets for Astronomy (since they've been cribbing everything else from the 2021 system) and possibly Divination.

The top of the turret has very limited space though, not sure how they could fit a class in there and the turrets are already part of the libary, so I don´t see any good way how they could have cramped something else in there.

In this image, posted by @(1)Stein you can clearly see that atleast 1 off the turrets has been used to store some things and a spider (Young Hagrid scene from Tom Riddle's memory, I guess), so they could use the other to store some extra Slytherin torso's, but there seems no space for an classroom in there if you asked me.

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I for one am pretty impressed with this section of the castle also nice that they included both bridges to connect the Main Hall & the Main Tower. I heard some say that this series might expand for seven years with would blow anything that Lego has done to this point out of the water! 🤪

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30 minutes ago, Legofan04 said:

Perhaps they have, and it's just not shown on the box? They've provided extra torsos and legs in sets before and not listed them as figures. Could be a similar situation to the Queer Eye set, where the extra parts were seen as a change of clothes.  The lifestyle image doesn't  show all the character parts in that particular image, and the box didn't show that having both as alternate faces was an option.

Yeah but if you include extra head, hair and torso you could just add the legs and sell it with more figures. I guess we will see when the first reviews are out, but basically it would almost be strange that just the heads to me. In the end both no good choices IMO.

16 minutes ago, (1)Stein said:

You do know that US Lego is made in the US and only small thing are imported from Denmark! ....🤔

It is made in mexico and that is basically the first country trump made tariffs against ;).

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Legofan04 said:

That's why I tried being vague, as I wasn't sure what the line was. But

At any rate, I thought the Main tower was $250 and not $260 lol. The $10 increase isn't too bad and well worth it still I think for all that's coming in it.

 

Yea for me the $10 difference for 3 more animal molds, 2 - 4 more minifigures depending on if you count the armor and maybe extra robes for Crabbe and Goyle, and a handful more pieces is really not that bad at all, all things considered even with general price increases. It’s a really loaded set imo and it’s why I adore it.

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Posted
45 minutes ago, Black Falcon said:

Yeah but if you include extra head

I think it's just supposed to be an alternate face print for Crabbe and Goyle.  You can see Crabbe's for Ron on the back of the box.

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1 hour ago, Legofan04 said:

I think it's just supposed to be an alternate face print for Crabbe and Goyle.  You can see Crabbe's for Ron on the back of the box.

Ah well I thought that speculation about that occured before and someone wrote here that there are other alternate faces for them. 

Edit: Found the picture with Ron and could indeed be the same face for Ron as for Crabbe, so lets hope for exchange torsos then.

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Wow, the Dobby is a 2-in-1 with Kreacher being an alternate build! I love when TLG has fun inclusions when we look at the sets with a microscope.

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Seeing the US prices now, I'm torn between the Book Nook and Knockturn Alley. The price per piece on KA is not great and the mini-figures aren't crazy good (Fenrir and Mr Borgin are the highlights) while the Book Nook has a good price per piece and a solid Dumbledore and Phoenix but only 2 mini-figures. Have a few months to decide for Back to Hogwarts.

Disappointed the East Wing is $270 USD, but its $250 Euros so not upset with Lego. And its not too terrible given 4 mini-figures with leg printing, 3 new/unique animal molds and the price per piece is still reasonable compared to the Great Hall and Main Tower. Still wish the Viaduct Bridge was its own set with the Hungarian Horntail. The Bloody Baron and Tom Riddle are perfection. Lockhart, Filch, and Moaning Mrytle are solid. Snape is great, but now overused. And the rest are students so they are what they are. The interior is solid and while it has comprises, they make sense. The Main Tower was the quintessential set to show the key plot points of PS, and this is the same for COS.  

 

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I just noticed that in the Slytherin Common Room they included the little present that Malfoy shakes and opens during the Polyjuice Hijinks, it really shows the designers were doing their homework! 

Posted (edited)
15 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

The Bathroom was an own module (and set) back then so it beeing better doesn´t really surprise me. (...)

Lockharts Office was a full module in the last version whereas now he stands in the entrance, which would be what a half module was back then - not to mention that it is the entrance and to me it just wouldn´t make sense to place any room in there as you need space to open the doors and let the minifigure move through them and all.

The 2018 version consisted ouf of harry, fawkes and the basilisk, and basically you just had to play the secene on the floor and not sure what was better on the last version really. (...)

The top of the turret has very limited space though, not sure how they could fit a class in there and the turrets are already part of the libary, so I don´t see any good way how they could have cramped something else in there.

The bathroom was its own module in the 2021 system but given the price increases since then, a few extra pieces to make this one better wouldn't have broken the budget. The previous one only had about 200 pieces! And Lockhart's office was a half-module the last time around, I think you might mean his classroom instead? The 2018 version didn't have a Chamber of Secrets, period, because it didn't have an underground section so it's not a fair comparison. I just feel that a lot more thought went into the Chamber in the 2021 version (extra gate, more room even though the overall set was much smaller, Salazar statue looked better) than this time around. And I've pointed out before that "Astronomy class" to LEGO is basically "cram a telescope into a turret" (from the 2021 version of the Chamber of Secrets) and "Divination class" is "cram a crystal ball into a turret" (from the 2021 version of Fluffy's Encounter) so both would have been entirely doable.

Just weighing in on the pricing situation: LEGO has always had different price amounts in EUR and GBP because of the exchange rate. But the EUR and USD price are usually the same even though the exchange rate is different, too. So many sets have, in the past, actually been far cheaper for US customers than for European customers (yes I know about sales tax but it's not that much and not all states even have it). To me, they now seem to use the tarrifs issue as a pretext for somewhat rectifying this. You're complaining now that the East Wing will be USD 270 vs EUR 250 but a dollar is currently worth around 0.85 euro! How would keeping the price amount the same be fair?

Of course the real reason is, as always, that they get away with it. As long as customers on both sides of the pond give them indications that the limit hasn't been reached (day one buys, paying inflated reseller prices, and so on) prices will continue to rise.

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8 hours ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

Seeing the US prices now, I'm torn between the Book Nook and Knockturn Alley. The price per piece on KA is not great and the mini-figures aren't crazy good (Fenrir and Mr Borgin are the highlights) while the Book Nook has a good price per piece and a solid Dumbledore and Phoenix but only 2 mini-figures. Have a few months to decide for Back to Hogwarts

It's kind of a sad state for the hobby that we can no longer just buy sets we like but have to justify it (to ourselves and others) in terns of number of minifigs, ppp, and so on because it's so easy to feel ripped off. 

Posted
14 hours ago, (1)Stein said:

I for one am pretty impressed with this section of the castle also nice that they included both bridges to connect the Main Hall & the Main Tower.

 

I was going to ask about this, as in one of the other images released, it shows the smaller bridge joining to the dungeon level.  I was wondering if this was to connect to an as yet unreleased section, or even the flying lessons, but this makes more sense.  Out of interest, does anyone know where the flying lessons is supposed to connect to.  Without a dungeon level, it doesn’t seem to fit.

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3 minutes ago, jus1973 said:

Out of interest, does anyone know where the flying lessons is supposed to connect to.

Flying Lessons is said to retire at the end of this year. So there two options: or the set is meant to be connected to East Wing - and LEGO will show it on the set bookleft, so we have to wait until the first reviews of the set or the bookleft itself; or the set is a stand alone set and will never shown attached. In any case, it's a matter of days.

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4 hours ago, brickbride said:

It's kind of a sad state for the hobby that we can no longer just buy sets we like but have to justify it (to ourselves and others) in terns of number of minifigs, ppp, and so on because it's so easy to feel ripped off. 

Such a sad state that there are so many good sets that we have to choose which ones we want because there isn’t enough money to buy all of them.

Both are good sets that I like, I just don’t have the budget for both this year

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8 hours ago, brickbride said:

The bathroom was its own module in the 2021 system but given the price increases since then, a few extra pieces to make this one better wouldn't have broken the budget. The previous one only had about 200 pieces!

You can pretty much bring that argument up at every place of every set as everyone would want some extra here or there, and they would vary from person to person. In the end adding a bit here and adding a bit there would result in adding a lot in total and increasing the price. Which doesn´t mean that there are some places or things I would welcome to be added too though ;).

8 hours ago, brickbride said:

And Lockhart's office was a half-module the last time around, I think you might mean his classroom instead?

Possible, which Set was his office inlcuded in?

8 hours ago, brickbride said:

The 2018 version didn't have a Chamber of Secrets, period, because it didn't have an underground section so it's not a fair comparison. I just feel that a lot more thought went into the Chamber in the 2021 version (extra gate, more room even though the overall set was much smaller, Salazar statue looked better) than this time around.

The point with the 2018 version was mainly exactly that. They included the snake (which is the worst version we got of it IMO, even the 2002 version looks way better than that) but just no place, decoration or much else to play with it. I mean I totally get why they included it anyways, but overall I don´t think people would have missed much if they would have just skipped it completely.

The former version isn´t doing anything with that space though. It is mainly empty room next to the slide. The other side is Slitherins Relief and the two snake head, which don´t leave any space to play, where the new version leaves way more space (and has more depth actually), despite beeing meant to slide out anyways. Whether the one or other version looks better is of course a matter of taste, I would actually agree with you that the older version looks indeed better, but is more a toon version of the gate, while the new one looks more realistic, 

8 hours ago, brickbride said:

And I've pointed out before that "Astronomy class" to LEGO is basically "cram a telescope into a turret" (from the 2021 version of the Chamber of Secrets) and "Divination class" is "cram a crystal ball into a turret" (from the 2021 version of Fluffy's Encounter) so both would have been entirely doable.

You would also need space for a figure to place them there, hence they only put a small storage in those areas in the other modules. But for this module the main reason is very likely that it is attached sideways to the rest of the module and you would see the half tower module from the side when displaying it, so adding a full roof for the tower is IMO the best option to make it look good.

8 hours ago, brickbride said:

Just weighing in on the pricing situation: LEGO has always had different price amounts in EUR and GBP because of the exchange rate. But the EUR and USD price are usually the same even though the exchange rate is different, too. So many sets have, in the past, actually been far cheaper for US customers than for European customers (yes I know about sales tax but it's not that much and not all states even have it). To me, they now seem to use the tarrifs issue as a pretext for somewhat rectifying this. You're complaining now that the East Wing will be USD 270 vs EUR 250 but a dollar is currently worth around 0.85 euro! How would keeping the price amount the same be fair?

I wouldn´t say they have been always cheaper in the us. In the end for a long time now, they have been about the same price, with some beein cheaper in the US and others in Europe. Which is actually the part that I wonder the most about. I mean it should be either one direction or the other, but those spikes in different direction makes me really wonder about the reason. The only thing that comes to mind right now, is that parts that aren´t produced in every location but come all from one place and are shiped to other places are the reason for this, but of course noone will tell us. 

5 hours ago, brickbride said:

It's kind of a sad state for the hobby that we can no longer just buy sets we like but have to justify it (to ourselves and others) in terns of number of minifigs, ppp, and so on because it's so easy to feel ripped off. 

In the end, for me at least, nothing has changed there. In the end the question always was how much you like something and how much you are willing to pay for it. In the end there are so many great sets they are putting out every year now, and the number of sets I really like is rather getting bigger than smaller. So of course you have to decide which sets you like more, as money, space and time are limited goods.

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I'm skipping everything. The only thing I'd be interested in would be Knockturn Alley but that's out of my budget.

I already own the old Expecto Patronum. Don't care for either the new modular Hogwarts or buildable objects and creatures.

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