Legofan2001 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, RODDY said: The bad news is price increases in the US 75411 will be $18 75412 will be $23 75413 will be $160 75414 will be $55 75431 will be $45 75435 will be $160 This might actually hurt Lego now. Who is going to pay 45 dollars for a BATTLEPACK?! It was already insanely overpriced at 40 dollars. And this can’t be due to MuH tariffs because the sets were already all way overpriced. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 55 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said: This might actually hurt Lego now. Who is going to pay 45 dollars for a BATTLEPACK?! It was already insanely overpriced at 40 dollars. And this can’t be due to MuH tariffs because the sets were already all way overpriced. Yeah and now they're even more insanely overpriced due to the tariffs... Most of Legos factories are in tariffed countries. Quote
Legofan2001 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 15 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said: Yeah and now they're even more insanely overpriced due to the tariffs... Most of Legos factories are in tariffed countries. Rumor is these price increases are impacting Europe as well……….. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Legofan2001 said: And this can’t be due to MuH tariffs because the sets were already all way overpriced. It is tariffs because this is only in North America. Don’t be shocked that the company that we all know to cut costs wherever they can to increase profits doesn’t want to get less profits than they were initially planning because of tariffs which were implemented a month ago, after they had already set the August and June prices. Ya’ll should have seen this coming the moment Trump was elected. Tariffs were one of his big campaign pledges. (I’m not getting political, it’s just logic) The prices are extremely outrageous though. And I feel bad for ya’ll across the pond. But it’s not unexpected. 5 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said: Rumor is these price increases are impacting Europe as well……….. Sauce? 21 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said: Yeah and now they're even more insanely overpriced due to the tariffs... Most of Legos factories are in tariffed countries. Vietnam = 10% Denmark = 10% Mexico (the largest US provider) = 25% last I checked, It appears Lego’s making some concessions as prices are increasing for US by 10% on average. The $1100 DS is gonna be crazy, Edited April 17 by CloneCommando99 Quote
Nobricksleft Posted April 17 Posted April 17 19 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said: 1 hour ago, Legofan2001 said: And this can’t be due to MuH tariffs because the sets were already all way overpriced. It is tariffs because this is only in North America Canada has no tariffs on Mexico or Denmark but since our Legos transit through the US we will probably be impacted as well. Going to Europe this summer, we'll leave plenty of free space in our luggage :) Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 25 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said: It is tariffs because this is only in North America. Don’t be shocked that the company that we all know to cut costs wherever they can to increase profits doesn’t want to get less profits than they were initially planning because of tariffs which were implemented a month ago, after they had already set the August and June prices. Ya’ll should have seen this coming the moment Trump was elected. Tariffs were one of his big campaign pledges. (I’m not getting political, it’s just logic) Seen it coming? the MAGA people don't even understand how tariffs work Quote
MKJoshA Posted April 17 Author Posted April 17 As tariffs concern our Lego purchases now, they are technically on-topic. But please work extra hard to not get political. Both sides of the political spectrum are part of this forum. What unities us is a love for Lego. Quote
Llewop Posted April 17 Posted April 17 It must suck because it’s not even like licenses or inflation. Its going effect literally every theme in Lego in NA. Don’t know how big the NA market is overall for Lego but surely it’s going to take a big hit. im just thankful that as a Brit this kind of stupid **** didn’t happen as bad with Brexit. (Would have claimed my Maltese citizenship that my dad is entitled to and emigrated had it happened lol). I had a feeling as soon as the Switch 2 had a higher price for America that Lego and other companies would follow suit, just wonder which company will be the first to blink to raise the rest of the worlds prices to match Americas…. On a more positive if they’ve got pictures and preorders ready for the K2S0 set which is still August right? It must mean the June and August wave must be ready and will leak over the next few weeks/months. don’t know if it’s all Chinese whispers but I’m worried about the set with the marines in. I think my expectations for it were so high because it’s something I’ve always wanted that I’m just worried what Legos going to come out with Quote
ArrowBricks Posted April 17 Posted April 17 I quite like the K2S0, but can appreciate the head is not ideal. But given the C3-PO it was always going to be this way. Stun Tank is a super super exciting rumour, but don’t buy it given the price. Atleast the large wheel pieces for a Turbo Tank is logical. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted April 17 Posted April 17 2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: Seen it coming? the MAGA people don't even understand how tariffs work There was the very funny trend where an uptick searches for how tariffs work came only after the election. I think this was always coming, do we know for certain if these changes are just for America though? Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: There was the very funny trend where an uptick searches for how tariffs work came only after the election. I think this was always coming, do we know for certain if these changes are just for America though? I'm pretty sure the leaker said it was just the US, but I could be wrong. Quote
Agent Kallus Posted April 17 Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: There was the very funny trend where an uptick searches for how tariffs work came only after the election. I think this was always coming, do we know for certain if these changes are just for America though? We can only hope it's not international but even if the effects on Lego don't affect Europe there will definitely still be an impact felt over here. They've already delayed the release of one of the star wars books in the UK, due to global supply chain issues, which is a pain it meant I wasn't able to get my copy in time to take it with me on holiday. 57 minutes ago, Llewop said: It must suck because it’s not even like licenses or inflation. Its going effect literally every theme in Lego in NA. Don’t know how big the NA market is overall for Lego but surely it’s going to take a big hit. im just thankful that as a Brit this kind of stupid **** didn’t happen as bad with Brexit. (Would have claimed my Maltese citizenship that my dad is entitled to and emigrated had it happened lol). The British people (well barely over half of the voting age people that actually went out to vote, and I was only just too young to vote at the time) maybe have voted for Brexit ( though there were a lot of fraudulent claims on what that would mean anyway) but at least we didn't vote for it twice!! Quote
CallumPears Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Llewop said: im just thankful that as a Brit this kind of stupid **** didn’t happen as bad with Brexit. It sort of did actually. At the end of 2016 they put a bunch of prices up due to the value of the £ plummeting, e.g. 75159 went from £399.99 to £409.99, a bunch of UCS sets went from £169.99 to £179.99, Battle on Takodana went from £49.99 to £54.99, etc. 59 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said: The British people (well barely over half of the voting age people that actually went out to vote, and I was only just too young to vote at the time) maybe have voted for Brexit ( though there were a lot of fraudulent claims on what that would mean anyway) but at least we didn't vote for it twice!! Yeah not to get too political but at least with Brexit people can claim they were manipulated by lies. These tariffs are exactly what people in America should've known they were voting for! Quote
JohnTPT17 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Priced out of rent, priced out of education, priced out of a new Nintendo console, priced out of Lego... There seems to be no end to this. Sigh... Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 12 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: A part of me selfishly hopes Lego loses money this year as a result of focusing too much on clones and Buildable characters. They seem to not realise there is such thing as over-saturating the market. And yes. I know this is what we in the Aslume would call a “Turtle solution” Oh I absolutely hope lego has significantly less this year. It's how the market works- if sets don't sell as well, lego has to change it up. That said, that's assuming they correctly identify the issues with their sets. We all know that, for instance, they're gonna look at the shuttle they double priced and decide it's poor sales are due to being a sequel set. 9 hours ago, okkolega said: That would be way better than another undersized turbo tank No more undersized sets pls lego Welcome to eurobricks! Unfortunately, given inflation, the only options are more expensive sets, significantly underdetailed sets, or smaller sets. Unless we want to start getting $200+ retail sets, it is fair to say their hands are tied. 6 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Vietnam = 10% Denmark = 10% Mexico (the largest US provider) = 25% last I checked, It appears Lego’s making some concessions as prices are increasing for US by 10% on average. IIRC Vietnam and Mexico are both in talks with the US right now. And unless something changed SUPER recently, I believe Vietnam was about ready to accept terms. Which is part of why I think these increases are at best hasty and at worst a stunt- offsetting for tariffs multiple months out when they've been changing fairly consistently is an odd choice. Even if you're the type of person/company who can't imagine a deal could be made, you'd assumably think there's a solid chance the tariffs are increased, in which case you'd want to up your prices a higher amount. And we all know that even if deals are reached with Vietnam and Mexico- even if they're reached with every country with lego factories- lego isn't going to LOWER their prices. 2 hours ago, CallumPears said: Yeah not to get too political but at least with Brexit people can claim they were manipulated by lies. These tariffs are exactly what people in America should've known they were voting for! I'll try to stay out of it but seeing as nobody else is heeding @MKJoshA's advice I'll just point out that a lot of people are assuming we didn't know what we were voting for. 3 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said: There was the very funny trend where an uptick searches for how tariffs work came only after the election. I think this was always coming, do we know for certain if these changes are just for America though? (Again given that nobody else seems to be listening to the mods) The media here switched pretty quickly from "will literally kill everyone" to "tariffs bad" after the election, so I feel like it's equally if not more plausible that the uptick was due to people who didn't vote, or voted for the other party, googling it after hearing about it on the news. Tariffs were pretty well known among the voting base for the winning candidate, I was working as a manufacturing engineer in the months leading up to the election and the floor workers talked about them a good deal. I heard North America as a whole, which if true, is another point in the "lego's just using this to raise prices wherever they can" because it's not like Mexico is tariffing itself or the sets make a U-turn across the border. Edited April 18 by Mandalorianknight Quote
Rwbricks Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Star Wars: Starfighter, a new film directed by Shawn Levy and starring Ryan Gosling, has been officially announced with a May 28, 2027! I’m excited to finally get a Ryan Gosling minifigure. Hopefully they nail his likeness and don’t use a reused head. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 18 Posted April 18 6 minutes ago, Rwbricks said: Star Wars: Starfighter, a new film directed by Shawn Levy and starring Ryan Gosling, has been officially announced with a May 28, 2027! I’m excited to finally get a Ryan Gosling minifigure. Hopefully they nail his likeness and don’t use a reused head. We are so back. I'm just (ken) so excited to see him drive (2011) a starfighter in this new movie. Honestly was a bit worried the movie was going to get cancelled and they'd make Ryan Gosling The Fall Guy for not signing on. (Add blade runner reference.) I'm assuming this will be using some ideas from ROTNR and Rogue Squadron, they've been really wanting a starfighter project to work and I'm glad they both figured it out and cast Ryan Gosling. For the main character of a movie, I hope they'll give him a unique face print. I know we've been skimping on the new content, but the budget can't be THAT low for star wars sets, can it? Quote
icm Posted April 18 Posted April 18 With a title like Starfighter, we better get a handful of nice swooshy new starfighter sets out of the movie (if it gets made, which I won't believe until there's a trailer). But I bet we'll get one new starfighter, one rehash, two buildable droids, a 4+ speeder chase, and a helmet. Quote
Rwbricks Posted April 18 Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: We are so back. I'm just (ken) so excited to see him drive (2011) a starfighter in this new movie. Honestly was a bit worried the movie was going to get cancelled and they'd make Ryan Gosling The Fall Guy for not signing on. (Add blade runner reference.) I'm assuming this will be using some ideas from ROTNR and Rogue Squadron, they've been really wanting a starfighter project to work and I'm glad they both figured it out and cast Ryan Gosling. For the main character of a movie, I hope they'll give him a unique face print. I know we've been skimping on the new content, but the budget can't be THAT low for star wars sets, can it? The budget should be good enough for him to get a new head print, even things like Andor or Skeleton Crew that only get one set get new pieces, and those aren’t movies. After all, the head of an average Joe won’t work, he’s literally me. Quote
Meaf Posted April 18 Posted April 18 3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Which is part of why I think these increases are at best hasty and at worst a stunt- offsetting for tariffs multiple months out when they've been changing fairly consistently is an odd choice. Even if you're the type of person/company who can't imagine a deal could be made, you'd assumably think there's a solid chance the tariffs are increased, in which case you'd want to up your prices a higher amount. And we all know that even if deals are reached with Vietnam and Mexico- even if they're reached with every country with lego factories- lego isn't going to LOWER their prices. The problem is that businesses can't change stuff on the fly like that, they need to have their prices set in stone before stuff goes on sale. Say Lego decided not to raise prices, and then tariffs do end up going through; then they've just lost a huge chunk of revenue because they made the wrong assumption. From their PoV (and the PoV of any large multinational like them), the smart move is to increase prices to match around the upper end of what the tariffs are expected to be. That way, they're covering their behind if the tariffs do end up going into effect, and if not then they just made a pretty penny (and can potentially afford to lower the price later, since it's obviously much more palatable to consumers for prices to lower later than have to be increased). Quote
Llewop Posted April 18 Posted April 18 5 minutes ago, Meaf said: The problem is that businesses can't change stuff on the fly like that, they need to have their prices set in stone before stuff goes on sale. Say Lego decided not to raise prices, and then tariffs do end up going through; then they've just lost a huge chunk of revenue because they made the wrong assumption. From their PoV (and the PoV of any large multinational like them), the smart move is to increase prices to match around the upper end of what the tariffs are expected to be. That way, they're covering their behind if the tariffs do end up going into effect, and if not then they just made a pretty penny (and can potentially afford to lower the price later, since it's obviously much more palatable to consumers for prices to lower later than have to be increased). He’s also frozen tariff for 90 days didn’t he so we know Denmark (EU) or Mexico won’t be getting anymore higher and 3 months time most the sets will be waiting to go on the shelves so they had to plan it now. But I still am worried that it will lead to rest of the world prices going up at some point. If the Americans will buy it 10%+ more bet the Rest of the world will, that’s the kind of corporate greed that the whole world is a sucker for unfortunately. Starfighter sounds interesting no offence to a lot of the actors they get for SW but them getting Ryan Gosling would say to me to this film has a lot better chance of getting made and even released. It’s interesting because do we know what era it’s set in yet because it could be anything at this point which is refreshing for a SW project. Still wish we were getting a rogue squadron film, I love the theory the reason it’s been delayed for so long is because they wanted to do Top Gun in space and make it the best fighter pilot film ever made and then they released Top Gun Maverick. Whether or not that’s true we’ll never know. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 18 Posted April 18 13 minutes ago, icm said: With a title like Starfighter, we better get a handful of nice swooshy new starfighter sets out of the movie (if it gets made, which I won't believe until there's a trailer). But I bet we'll get one new starfighter, one rehash, two buildable droids, a 4+ speeder chase, and a helmet. With Ryan Gosling officially on board, this movie's more likely than anything but TMAG. You don't get a name that big for the lead actor and then drop the ball. 7 minutes ago, Rwbricks said: The budget should be good enough for him to get a new head print, even things like Andor or Skeleton Crew that only get one set get new pieces, and those aren’t movies. After all, the head of an average Joe won’t work, he’s literally me. I agree. Although, how can he be you when he's literally me? 3 minutes ago, Meaf said: The problem is that businesses can't change stuff on the fly like that, they need to have their prices set in stone before stuff goes on sale. Say Lego decided not to raise prices, and then tariffs do end up going through; then they've just lost a huge chunk of revenue because they made the wrong assumption. From their PoV (and the PoV of any large multinational like them), the smart move is to increase prices to match around the upper end of what the tariffs are expected to be. That way, they're covering their behind if the tariffs do end up going into effect, and if not then they just made a pretty penny (and can potentially afford to lower the price later, since it's obviously much more palatable to consumers for prices to lower later than have to be increased). The only thing is, they didn't increase them to the upper end of what the tariffs are expected to be- in fact, they're significantly below the current tariff on mexico, which I believe is where most sets are coming from. It's possible they've just worked out a way to switch it up so all the sets coming to NA are the ones from Vietnam, but some of the price increases are below the Vietnam tariffs too, the transport cost would assumably be spiking if they're shipping stuff farther geographically, etc. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: With Ryan Gosling officially on board, this movie's more likely than anything but TMAG. You don't get a name that big for the lead actor and then drop the ball. “🎶 Galaxy of Stars. Are you fighting just for me? 🎶— Ryan Gosling probably. We’re so back. 8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I agree. Although, how can he be you when he's literally me? How dare you. He’s obviously literally me! 8 hours ago, Llewop said: Still wish we were getting a rogue squadron film, I love the theory the reason it’s been delayed for so long is because they wanted to do Top Gun in space and make it the best fighter pilot film ever made and then they released Top Gun Maverick. Whether or not that’s true we’ll never know. Lucasfilm will try to launch another Rogue Squadron movie in 30 years only to get upended by Top Gun Rooster. 9 hours ago, icm said: With a title like Starfighter, we better get a handful of nice swooshy new starfighter sets out of the movie (if it gets made, which I won't believe until there's a trailer). But I bet we'll get one new starfighter, one rehash, two buildable droids, a 4+ speeder chase, and a helmet. You forgot the buildable logo and clone battlepack Jokes aside, i’m curious to see who Ryan Gosling, who I’m guessing is part of a New New Republic or something, will be fighting in a space battle movie. My heart yearns for the Grysk or Chiss Ascendancy. But Lucasfilm logic dictates that it’s either pirates or Palpatine again. Also I have high hopes for this as A) Ryan Gosling is a great actor and his performances are usually gold standard (his Ken carried Barbie 2023 in my eyes) and in good films. B) He’s popular enough to generate an audience for the film outside of SW fans (no offence to Daisy Ridley) which should give Disney the confidence to actually release it. And C) Shawn Levy as director and writer is encouraging as he’s been writing the script for a few years now so it shouldn’t face MCU level problems, and he did an amazing job with Deadpool and Wolverine last year, showing he can do great service to established characters if any show up. And most importantly: it might finally get my sister to like Star Wars again. 8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: The only thing is, they didn't increase them to the upper end of what the tariffs are expected to be- in fact, they're significantly below the current tariff on mexico, which I believe is where most sets are coming from. It's possible they've just worked out a way to switch it up so all the sets coming to NA are the ones from Vietnam, but some of the price increases are below the Vietnam tariffs too, the transport cost would assumably be spiking if they're shipping stuff farther geographically, etc. That can be simply answered by the fact that Lego knows that if they increase prices too much, no matter how justified they might potentially be this time, a whole lot of their consumers in NA will go away. Therefore they may be increasing prices by an amount that seems reasonable with the current situation and soften the blow whilst also making concessions to prevent catastrophic long term market losses. But anyway. Enough of tariffs for now, it’s a depressing subject and I don’t wish the friendly nature of this thread to get undermined by polarised politics. Not when we have more exciting things to discuss. So new leaked M&G trailer. I’m seeing snowtroopers with and without face coverings, beautiful AT ATs (looking a lot more like the Rebels version actually), AT RT, Razer Crest, Imperial base, the gladiator arena from Thor Ragnorok. I do love the look at the Imperial Commander I hope we get a minifigure, we need more imperial field officer minifigures. I believe it’s just Veers and Kallus currently. As for Mando himself: bro thinks he’s Daredevil. And it looks kriffing awesome. Edited April 18 by CloneCommando99 Quote
Agent Kallus Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Yeah the snowtroopers look better without the cloth on . I'm currently sat in the audience waiting for the animation panel, hopefully we get something big there! I'd love a new mainline animated Star Wars show to fill the niché left by The Bad Batch. Personally I'd like something a bit further away in the timeline. May High or old republic but I know that nearer the movies is more likely. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Dang, that was a badass teaser!! Now please officially release it on YT as well, I wanna watch it twelve more times before it gets deleted Looks like Mando hates AT-ATs even more than he dislikes droids, that was absolutely savage Fingers crossed you-know-who from the end of the teaser makes it into a set too! The necessary pieces were brought back, after all. And Starfighter sounds intriguing! I’m glad I changed my mind about Gosling a coupla years ago. 2011 me would have been livid with this news For context, I’m one of the few people who hated Drive and especially Gosling’s robot-like, more stoic than the Terminator-like be performance in it, and couldn’t stand to see him after that. I changed my opinion once I saw The Nice Guys and liked him in everything since! Quote
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