ord Posted June 1 Posted June 1 Yes it's smooth according to Sariel's video, thankfully (in a previous video it looked like it wasn't). Quote
Stereo Posted June 2 Posted June 2 The new Mewtwo set has LBG wheel arch extensions, I expect it's 71689 but it might be the smaller ones. Quote
R0Sch Posted June 3 Posted June 3 9 hours ago, Stereo said: The new Mewtwo set has LBG wheel arch extensions, I expect it's 71689 but it might be the smaller ones. Was already mentioned a page earlier. There is also a new 2x2 plate with 4 half holes on each side in the Pokémon sets. Kinda makes it more versatile to the 2x4 / 2x8 plates with just the holes in the middle. Quote
SNIPE Posted June 3 Posted June 3 (edited) this nice bar with end dome (7768) in black could be used to hide coloured pins etc AND WE GET DBG HALF BUSHES Edited June 6 by SNIPE Quote
gyenesvi Posted June 4 Posted June 4 11 hours ago, SNIPE said: this nice bar with end dome (7768) in black could be used to hide coloured pins etc Unfortunately, it does not seem that much useful for that purpose. You can't push a bar into blue pins, neither into red axle-pins. They only go into the pin end of blue axle-pins, so could only be used when that end is facing outwards. Quote
HydroWorld Outlook Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) Great news, everyone! New Elementary just posted their full review of the LEGO Icons 11380 Road Bike yesterday, and I'm pleased to share that we've got some new intel on the new Technic parts included in that set. Please see below. - @ord was absolutely correct. It is now officially confirmed that the new road bike wheels on the inside, when fully assembled, are exactly 23 LEGO units across at the center (7-piece central chord/diameter), 20 units across its 5-piece chord, and 12 units across its 3-piece chord. As such, a completed wheel connects perfectly—via up to twelve 2L beams and connected pins or axle pins—with four 11x11 35T circular gear racks when assembled into a complete annular gear ring, allowing the full 140T annular ring to directly drive the fully-assembled 12-piece wheel rim. A picture shown on New Elementary's website proves this, and therefore, direct drive of a large annular, hubless wheel using the gear rack elements—without all those flimsy, weak 11L offset spoke rods—is now possible. - Furthermore, the new large single-piece rubber bicycle tires, which are about 33 units in diameter, centrifugally secure the completed 12-piece wheel rim and everything attached or connected within it, meaning we can now build large wheels significantly stronger and sturdier than we could before. If you're looking for giant high-speed Technic road wheels for large models, such as supersized racecars, go-karts, or other models—or perhaps searching for flywheels to power large pneumatic engines, these are your parts! - In even better news, the new 64-tooth gear meshes perfectly as planet gears within the large 140T annular gear. Two 64t gears can fit within it side-by-side with a central 3-unit separation, driving the large annular gear directly. In theory, this separation also means that a 16-tooth spur gear can act as the sun gear in this setup, resulting in the following possible planetary gear ratios for this specific configuration: 9.75 : 1 (Fixed Ring Gear) 8.75 : 1 (Fixed Carrier/Planet Gears) 1.114 : 1 (Fixed Sun Gear) As other users have pointed out, this arrangement is still a bit tight, but a half-mm offset can make it work. Occasional light imperfections and/or defects in the surrounding parts, especially slight deformities in the wheel rim elements and surrounding rubber tire, often require a bit more work to make this planetary gear configuration happen, though it is possible. You just have to be very careful with the spacing so as not to grind other gears within the arrangement. Using lubricant on the rotating gear teeth may put you in a better position to use this configuration than doing without. Of course, while New Elementary doesn't show it, other gear combinations may work better for this application as well. - The new curved Technic elements used to form the road bike's wheels can be used in smaller quantities to form perfect arches.This opens the door for future sets, both inside and outside of the Technic lineup, to take advantage of this capability. Imagine the possibilities! As always, we shouldn't count our chickens before they hatch, but there are so many applications of arches that I am almost certain we will see these parts used again in future sets. - Lastly, New Elementary discovered something on the new 20T freewheel gear. Like Sariel showed, this gear functions normally when turning clockwise and as a clutch gear when turning counterclockwise. This is echoed in New Elementary's review. However, the internal rachet only has 4 stops, meaning that, when the gear teeth are locked from rotation, an axle can only rotate within the freewheel gear for a quarter turn (90°) before the internal rachet locks it from turning back. Unfortunately, this means that those who seek to drive or otherwise use this gear with any form of electric motor—especially a LEGO one—should beware, because that motor could easily take damage or skip / strip gear teeth, as it would with any other static gear, if it is allowed to backdrive the freewheel gear too far. I am immensely grateful and excited for these new parts. Hopefully we will see these translated into Technic sets in the coming years. Edited June 9 by HydroWorld Outlook Quote
AVCampos Posted June 9 Posted June 9 23 minutes ago, HydroWorld Outlook said: the new 64-tooth gear meshes perfectly as planet gears within the large 140T annular gear Actually, while that mesh works, it's a bit too tight and forces the gears. Quote
HydroWorld Outlook Posted June 9 Posted June 9 1 minute ago, AVCampos said: Actually, while that mesh works, it's a bit too tight and forces the gears. It does, though I found that a tiny half-a-mm offset can fix this. It's just kind of tricky. Quote
Stereo Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) If you're building it planetary anyway, you can make the planet carrier smaller with triangles. Eg. this 3-6-6 liftarm triangle has 4.9 studs width instead of 5 (0.8mm less), and then if you want to continue using 16N+8 gears (8, 24, 40, 64) you can just use beams to make another triangle of whole numbers (marked 4.9-5-5) that would work (I'm using 40t gears as a demo cause studio has them) I think 140 is in the 8N+4 set so it might just directly go 20-64-140 or something as well. Edited June 9 by Stereo Quote
Thierry-GearsManiac Posted June 10 Posted June 10 (edited) On 6/9/2026 at 2:21 PM, HydroWorld Outlook said: In even better news, the new 64-tooth gear meshes perfectly as planet gears within the large 140T annular gear. Two 64t gears can fit within it side-by-side with a central 3-unit separation, driving the large annular gear directly. In theory, this separation also means that a 16-tooth spur gear can act as the sun gear in this setup Not a 16-tooth spur gear, but a 12-tooth one for the sun, because 140 = 2*64 + 12 (summing the teeth is like summing the pitch diameters). Which gives the following ratios : fixed carrier / planet gears : 140/12 = 35/3 = 11.66... fixed ring = fixed carrier + 1 = 38/3 = 12.66... fixed sun = fixed ring / fixed carrier = 38/35 = approx. 1.086 Edited June 10 by Thierry-GearsManiac Adding a precision for fixed ring ratio Quote
HydroWorld Outlook Posted June 12 Posted June 12 On 6/10/2026 at 1:40 PM, Thierry-GearsManiac said: Not a 16-tooth spur gear, but a 12-tooth one for the sun, because 140 = 2*64 + 12 (summing the teeth is like summing the pitch diameters). Which gives the following ratios : fixed carrier / planet gears : 140/12 = 35/3 = 11.66... fixed ring = fixed carrier + 1 = 38/3 = 12.66... fixed sun = fixed ring / fixed carrier = 38/35 = approx. 1.086 My bad then, but are you sure about that? Because in an image on a previous page of this thread, and again here, a 12-tooth gear just barely meshes with a 64-tooth gear, at least maybe until you factor in the half-mm correction that I mistakenly wasn't considering when I wrote my previous comment. On 6/9/2026 at 7:30 AM, Stereo said: If you're building it planetary anyway, you can make the planet carrier smaller with triangles. Eg. this 3-6-6 liftarm triangle has 4.9 studs width instead of 5 (0.8mm less), and then if you want to continue using 16N+8 gears (8, 24, 40, 64) you can just use beams to make another triangle of whole numbers (marked 4.9-5-5) that would work (I'm using 40t gears as a demo cause studio has them) I think 140 is in the 8N+4 set so it might just directly go 20-64-140 or something as well. That's a great idea! Didn't think of that. Thanks for the tip. :) Quote
Thierry-GearsManiac Posted June 13 Posted June 13 23 hours ago, HydroWorld Outlook said: My bad then, but are you sure about that? Because in an image on a previous page of this thread, and again here, a 12-tooth gear just barely meshes with a 64-tooth gear, at least maybe until you factor in the half-mm correction that I mistakenly wasn't considering when I wrote my previous comment. Indeed, but this is on a grid with 1-stud by 1-stud steps. We also need to achieve a distance close to the ideal one, which is (64+12)/16 = 4,75-stud). Odd quarter-stud steps, which are not achievable directly. With a grid of half-stud steps however, there seems to be a single solution theoretically within the empirical +-0,05-stud tolerance : 2,5 by 4 results in approximately 4,717-stud distance. When building with bricks/plates (0,4-stud steps), a 4,8-stud distance is achievable, but I guess it would barely fit : besides being less convenient, would perhaps result in a tight meshing with the ring gear. And there are perhaps some other more exotic solutions if we use diagonal liftarms. I currently cannot try in practice because I don't own this new gear yet. Quote
Stereo Posted June 13 Posted June 13 (edited) Giving it a bit more thought and an actual "64t" gear to test on, the one I come up with is 1.5, 4.77, 5, though with the way I built a 1.5 edge does mean the middle axle is part of the planet carrier and it needs a 12T clutch gear for the sun. I only have 12t straight gears so I can't test how smooth this spins. The planets don't really have anywhere to go though, their rotation's synchronized, so maybe just building a 9.5L beam between them that skips over the centre would be good enough. Or you could use 10288 triple connector with 3L axles, and 32013 #1, and a 1.8 stud spacer (1L beam + 2 rings, should tighten down to slightly less than 1.8). 3 planets do barely work with this setup... I'm not sure they work in reality because 140 isn't divisible by 3 so the phase might not match closely enough. Edited June 13 by Stereo Quote
Auroralampinen Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Just now, Ngoc Nguyen said: Is that a 8z gear with clutch in red? Yes and new tan gear Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Just now, Auroralampinen said: new tan gear New tan gear where Quote
Auroralampinen Posted June 18 Posted June 18 8 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: New tan gear where Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 minute ago, Auroralampinen said: That gear seems to be meshing with the adjacent 16z clutch gear so it could just be the regular spur 16z gear that looks slightly tan due to lighting. Quote
Stereo Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) It's a new pair of gears, reddish orange 18 with clutch, white 14 with axle, or something like that. Unless they recoloured the 12T blue spur gear to white for some reason. Also, red shift drums on the right of the car, yellow on the left. Edited June 18 by Stereo Quote
aeh5040 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: Is that a 8z gear with clutch in red? Seems very plausible. Meshing with a DBG 24z below it. 1 hour ago, Auroralampinen said: Yes and new tan gear I think that is just a standard LBG 16z. Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 minute ago, aeh5040 said: Seems very plausible. Meshing with a DBG 24z below it. I think that is just a standard LBG 16z. I thought that at first, but upon closer look, the bulge is slightly different. It's clearly not a clutch gear, so it might be the first 14z gear. Quote
aeh5040 Posted June 18 Posted June 18 10 minutes ago, Stereo said: It's a new pair of gears, reddish orange 18 with clutch, white 14 with axle, or something like that. Unless they recoloured the 12T blue spur gear to white for some reason. Also, red shift drums on the right of the car, yellow on the left. Isn't the white part just a 4 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: I thought that at first, but upon closer look, the bulge is slightly different. It's clearly not a clutch gear, so it might be the first 14z gear. I think I see what you mean, but the diameter seems identical to a 16z, judging by where it reaches up to relative to the adjacent pin holes. Quote
Stereo Posted June 18 Posted June 18 They're not red and LBG, and the white one doesn't have the same indents as the grey 16z. It does seem to have small holes so it's not a 12z. Quote
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