*thomas*
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That sums it up quite nicely. And just to add: LEGO is just being greedy. There are more HP than TRAIN fans (there is no other reason to produce this set otherwise). They care more for minifigs, so they include a bunch of them. TLG knows people will want the minifigs so they just 'add' a giant set at an insane price-point. I'm convinced that if they would've made this the size of the EN (with a longer coach), but with the same minifigs, it would sell equally good (but TLG would make less profit). I catch myself browsing their website way more often than the TLG site. Anyone who hasn't, should give them a go. What they have on offer really is a step up compared to what TLG is trying to sell as a trainset.
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Cool rendition :). Still, can't recommend them (the real outback) enough. Good looking cars which have outgrown densely populated areas in Europe, but suit the USA perfectly.
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This is one of the reasons why I don't enjoy building / playing with LEGO anymore. The fear that a unique, rare set will lose it's value once opened is a huge drawback...
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Funny, when I first looked at the new station, I got some 80s vibes from it, so I know exactly what you mean. As you said, it looks like a nice place to wait for a train, but it's not a station I can relate to (most railway stations in Belgium are older, larger building that look a lot like the 4554 station, even in more rural areas). Still, my son will love it. Shame I can't feel that way about the pass. train :(.
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As much as I like the station from a child's perspective, I do wonder: would it have been so difficult for LEGO to give us this?
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My son will love the station. I like the fact they included a crossing and a MOW. I would've liked a parking lot (like they have done with the grocery store) to expand it's footprint. The passenger train is a no-go for me. Hate it in every possible way (yes, this sounds harsh).
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I appreciate some sarcasm and irony, but this doesn't work when there is only the written word...
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This would actually be a great set if they would just include the locomotive, 3 or 4 of the green wagons and the crane that came with the 2015 cargo set.
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You're post isn't offencive in any way, just stating facts. Still, this brings me back to my first question: 'why does lego even bother with trains?' . And second: I think most fans (young or adult) would be happy if LEGO would put a bit more effort into trains. They are doing the same old thing over and over again and I'm sure that as a kid, it doesn't matter, but after a while it's just boring. A shunter train, a passanger train with a locomotive (not a emu or dmu) and 2 carriages, a decent railway station, a proper crossing, a mow vehicule (that could 'brigde' the gap between trains and great vehicules). And they have to stop 'people won't buy this excuse' when they just made a pair of brick build shoes...
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I get it why 'a train set' (or every big city set) is something that is aimed at X-mas and B-days, but I just can't understand why these trains are on a 4-year cycle, why LEGO never (ever) has released extra rolling stock in the last 15 years, why they have released 3 creator export trains 10 years ago, have done the same thing 2 years ago and are now going 'full monty' with a 500 dollar HP train set. It's a very, very strange marketing strategy that has no room for common sense.
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I'm starting to wonder why LEGO even makes city trains...
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I'm mostly a trains fan and have been waiting for over two decades for LEGO to release a new, decent train line-up... I got tired waiting and switched to bluebrixx. LEGO does not have any copyright on the 'system' (only on minifigs) and since LEGO has moved production away from Denmark/Europe, I don't see any difference between bluebrixx and LEGO. It's not like bluebrixx is stealing from LEGO, are they?
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I think they're talking about official lego (city) trains...
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Because, IMHO, with things like the adidas shoe, sitcom-based etc, LEGO targets people who do impulse buys and don't try to increase their fanbase.
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I feel like more and more sets are aimed towards people buying a LEGO set because they like 'shoes', 'football', 'sitcoms', but not because they like LEGO...
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Just to clear up things, with stating the fact that LEGO has not increased it's prices (for trains) in a way they could have, I agree with most fans on here that I would gladly pay more for metal track and a controller, same goes for curves with a wider radius and (if metal track is not an option), rechargeable battery packs. But, we have quite a few options to solve those problems (third party companies are creating/selling - metal - track, there's an array of cheap plastic track with other radii and you can buy rechargeable battery packs from the East for cheap replacing a bunch of AAA batteries). Still, a lot of us are reluctant when it comes to buying non-LEGO whereas people that own non-LEGO model trains often give themselves the freedom to look elsewhere.
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How they achieve their price setting doesn't matter. And I can only account for the region I live in, where wages have also increased when comparing them to 30 years ago.
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I just made a basic calculation of what prices would be like if inflation would be applied. Like I said, the metroliner was a 6000 BEF set (150€) when it came out. That would be 290€ in today's money (93% inflation). I have some catalogues with prices from the 80s, but that would be even worse. So even when you would factor in costs like metal track and a speed regulator, pricing on LEGO hasn't gone up the way we often belief they have.
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Lego City 2022 Rumours, Leaks, Information And Discussion
*thomas* replied to Powered by Bricks's topic in LEGO Town
The company has an array of cranes, but I was mostly talking about colourscheme. -
Lego City 2022 Rumours, Leaks, Information And Discussion
*thomas* replied to Powered by Bricks's topic in LEGO Town
Bit offtopic, but guess this is the prototype lego used for the crane: -
No, I didn't forget about inflation. It's exactly why I said trains NOW are cheaper.
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If you compare train prices to retail prices in the 80s and 90s, they are cheap. In Belgium, the metroliner was selling for 6000 BEF, which is 150€, which is 180USD... 22years ago...
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In Europe (Belgium at least), the current cargo train retails at 189,99 euro, the passenger train at 129,99 euro. So it seems that by adding around 40€ they could add a carriage and increase the platform add some other small goodies.
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I hope the pricing for the passanger train is correct. It would indicate that we're finally getting a full-on train (not half a train).
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LEGO needs to make the passanger train the main focus again, like they did in the 80s and 90s. Yesterday, my 3 year old and a 4 year old friend of his had a go at my old lego trains. What they mostly enjoyed was opening doors from my 7745 and putting people on top of MOC flat beds... I know tolders aren't the target audience for TLG and their trains, but it shows cargo shouldn't always be the main focus.