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It wasn't so much a defense of Jack as it was for her not voting. She quoted the post to me after the day ended. Sorry, you're new. I forgot you were being helpful. No offense meant. Isn't that what Hazel was potentially doing by breaking the rules and contacting you? Don't forget that Lauren blabbed a list of vanillas, narrowing down their targets. Their night kills have been like shooting fish in a barrel because the really helpful codes were daved almost immediately. Yes. Barry's actions prove that. He said he was going to target Clem or Bobby, the two other people who were killed that night. If you love that other site so much, why don't you marry it? Killed Maggie or less likely Chester. As someone said before, the only reason they would've used the janitor action on a Serial Killer Peter was if the Scum were working with him. But the vig stayed home that night. Peter hitting the bomb probably foiled their plans to use the janitor on you and make us think you were Scum.

Jack's dying words were that Adelaide didn't vote. That would be a very odd Scum gambit... Hey! My Scum-mate didn't even vote!! Whiiiiiiiirrrr (sound of a chainsaw)... I can't even imagine it as WIFOM. If it is, it didn't work as we're still scrutinizing her lack of vote. Not voting at that point would be rather conspicuous. People seem to be scrutinizing those who join bandwagons after the hammer in this game. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. She did explain her lack of vote, as well. And she didn't need to even reply to anything. She could've logged out and pretended her phone died before she could finish reading or something. I feel like we have to be right today or it's over. It'd be nice to know how many were left. Hey Scum, how many do you have left? It's 4am, I'm out... I don't know, that doesn't look like a maple trying to distance himself from a buddy to me. It looks like a maple who can't believe his luck. I wouldn't say I think of suave subtlety when I think of Peter. The strange thing about what he said and when he said is that he used the term "janitored" during a time of the game that we were all thinking only Oaks became Stumps. At the same time, Hazel's confirmation thread message and wink was really cryptic. I can't imagine a janitored Townie would wink at us like that. Maybe I'm reading too far into it. Either way, Peter could also be over-performing a decision to admit Hazel's guilt since the message was so obvious. It's rare people are that confident. Kind of like this: This is very confident. It reminds me of the way Peter addressed the issue, but done with a little more finesse. If Sammy is Scum, this confidence would've come from knowing Berty would be lynched and they could clean him up with the janitor. That plan would've been ruined by our friend Chester "Steel Spikes" Chestnut, friendly neighborhood bomb. Either way, cleared-as-Oak Sammy keeps coming up with new ways to ping.

A lot of people assume Peter was Scum and not SK because of his group comment in the confirmation thread. I assumed the same affiliation for Hazel because she mentioned screwing things up or something like that. We can't play the game in that thread so I'm not going to quote it but it says he did terrible but he wants to see what happens next. And then he winked at us. That seemed Scummy. Adelaide made it a point to let us all know how quickly Hazel changed her avatar and signature as well. The first two days, Scum placed the hammer vote. Why does that bug me?

Waldorf, n4913 SUXT no Claudio Night 6. So, n3800 n3372? Maybe n4913 changed? And Claudio n3800? Either way, for n7019 to SUXT Claudio, at this point n7019 SUXT Claudio n3800. Right? Does that make sense? to Conrad n4774. Bruce, n7489 KISW no 6339 Night 6. So, n5333 n3331? Maybe n7489 changed? And n3331 n5333? Either way, for n7008 to KISW 6339, at this point n7008 KISW n3331 n5333. Right? Does that make sense? to 2424 n5086. This is giving me a headache.

I quoted Catarina but forgot what I was going to say. I need to ask Bruce some things but don't have my code spreadsheet on my phone. I'll be back later tonight.

Because it doesn't, at all. He suggested that each of the "scum" (the four non-stumps) were all a different size and the remaining size category contained William and Lassie. That would lead me further down my road of pursuing Lassie. This was suggested before momentum built on Jack (February 26, 8:49 AM CST). And it turns my attention away from the player we had night action results pointing to. It's convenient that each non-stump was from a different "size category" and the two people I was suspicious of, besides Jack, were in the remaining category. And it's very clever for him to think of it. And when I told him to bring up the idea publicly he resisted. That's why I did mention it. I wanted to see if it pinged anyone else. So he didn't want to announce it publicly, just plant the seed with me. That's a pretty clever Scum play, if that's what it is. But Sammy has played long enough to know that games aren't set up this way, but what he was suggesting was that Alder, as a first time host, had chosen the Scum this way. I also think Alder has been playing long enough to know not to set it up that way. It's super pingy.

Sorry. I'll try not to be all over the board, I swear. But, I thought it was Scummy enough to bring it up in thread and now that we know there was a janitor, it seems even Scummier. And really, I should be following my crazier instincts more often...

Sammy bringing up the size thing is seeming really Scummy to me suddenly, though. What a smart thing if he knew we were misinterpreting the missing stumps...

There usually is one when there is a miller. It would make sense with two investigators. Bruce and Sammy both think that one was naive, but I think they were both legit to balance the janitor. If you told me one of the investigated was a Godfather, I'd say Sammy in a heartbeat, even before it was just me and him left in the game. But, seriously, we're gonna have some apple pie today, I think.

No, by all means, don't be quiet. You just put the laugh emoticon after saying there could be two more Scum. It was weird. Not sure what was funny about it, but whatever... we're obviously not communicating well with each other in this game. I agree with this. Adelaide and then Sammy if there's a tomorrow. Great, Mom and Dad are fighting. We should keep in mind that a verified investigator cleared Sammy. Sammy's posts bug the shit out of me, but with only a few people left, Sue and Adelaide's behavior is equally if not more so, concerning. Maybe Sammy seems so Scummy because I'm paranoid or because he hasn't played for a while...and plays Scummy as Town. I guess it would have to be paranoia. He did get the momentum going on Jack, too. He followed the suggestions of the stump showing that he was looking for guidance just like Bruce and I were, so maybe we should stop suspecting him.

I agree. Did I miss a joke? No, n4926 XMMB! As far as Jack goes, he was non-commital about all of his suspicions. But I agree that Adelaide is probably our best bet. There were a lot of Scummy noobs in this game. Were we so blatantly Scummy when we were noobs? What the hell?? I think the Scummiest about Sue is that she is usually kind of flaily and saying off-the-wall crazy theories and junk when she's Town. This is a very refined Sue. But, I haven't played for a year and my meta-game database may need updating.

I think 3 or 4 of them had to have been Scum, otherwise we wouldn't still be here. Jack pointed out that the team made a bad decision cleaning up Barry instead of Waldorf. Looks like he was just airing his own dirty laundry. Of course, his theory that it was a bad decision was based on them knowing he was an investigator and having a role cop. In retrospect, that's a lot of hypotheticals. They must have gotten lucky with list Lauren gave them. That was really dumb. Have I mentioned that?

Where the hell is Bruce?? Thanks for the analysis. It's interesting. Who do the stumps think make the most sense to lynch today? By stumps, I mean Catarina and Waldorf.

This is what Adelaide quoted to me as making her think I had said Jack was cleared by an investigator. That's why she didn't vote for him. Luckily I can move it.

Not mine. At all. To cause confusion about the remaining numbers? I don't know. Maybe you're right... She told me in private we thought we had said Jack had been cleared by an investigator. Then she quoted something from me that was two thoughts run together. It kind of looks like I was saying he was investigated, but I know we were clear by the end of the day that it was Sammy who had been investigated. I'll find the quote.

Oh right, Sammy voted minutes after my vote. He was cleared as Town by Waldorf, same as me. Perhaps I'm being paranoid? It would be a bad idea to lynch a verified Oak today. Could Adelaide be the last one? We really don't have much to go on.

Adelaide has been staring at the forum a lot, which creeps me out. Wasn't she the other lynch candidate yesterday, though? Did it go stagnant because we had two Scum in the crosshairs again? And what about Sammy, how did he behave?

Only n7019 I think we can thank n4636 EQFQ

Oh my God, we have a solid answer. And my instincts are all out of whack. Jack is a Maple, there is a janitor, William was not being set up for an epic Scum win. Bruce, what do you think of the conversation we were having before you were killed? About n7510 n3985. Wait, there was a janitor and it was Jack. Like I said...then ignored. My mind is all mushy. So, we have Jack, Barry and Peter, all maples, but not sure about the rest, right? Perhaps Alastair and Hazel were Oaks? How many of these Maples are out there?? I'm not a fan of not knowing these things. If there's five of us then there are only 2 Maples max, right? Two things strike me as weird: 1. Everything Sammy has ever said during this game. 2. Lassie realizing that Barry mentioned Bobby and Clem as kill targets meant there was a janitor, then accepting that only Oaks are stumps, then blowing off the discrepancy when asked about it. And 3, Sue. Flies under the radar. And Adelaide might be Scum too. All I know is I'm an Oak. I don't think I've ever been in a game that was down to five people.

I know this is logically a good lynch but instinctually it just feels wrong. We'll at least have more votes to analyze but I have half a mind to unvote. I wish we had more time. No lynch is not good but if he's an Oak, we could possibly lose this tonight. What an aggravating day. F-word.

I hate this. I'm in class. Are people really hovering? Who?

Are you volunteering to hammer?

It was a strange response. Why do votes always follow me? Makes me nervous. Yet nobody voted for Lassie. Let me go on record saying that I think we're setting up William for an epic Scum win. Apparently, I'm the only one who sees that but it's all I'm thinking about right now.

vote: Jack Pine (mostlytecnic) I apologize if I'm wrong. I will really feel terrible. We have to get these last couple of Scum. If you're still alive tomorrow Jack and we have no other leads, we'll be stuck with the same questions about you.

Waldorf, if n7019 SUXT 6196 and SUXT 6196 Claudio, n4774 TARG n7019 Wait, maybe not.