Dragonator

I'm glad this has received a good reception, I think this is a good effort Alopex, and the vignettes are a neat addition. I should note that this is an unofficial thread and is not necessarily consistent/applicable to the current/future/unwritten EB rules/roles/definitions of EB Mafia. Do remember that all hosts like to use their own variations of roles; roles/names of roles in this thread may not reflect those in current/future games. With that little administrative notice out of the way, please continue with your comments.

I think it's hilarious that you're all seeing a trend across only 2 games. There are a lot of factors that influence how people play these games, but as the game is still in progress I don't think it's appropriate to start discussing them now. Let's at least wait until the player's can all speak freely once the game is concluded.

EB is a place for discussing Lego, not for discussing local politics, as per our site guidelines: So, I'll be closing this topic. If you want to discuss politics, please find an appropriate forum for it, but EB is not that place.

Well, that's shame, I learnt so much during my isolation too! Ah well, good luck townies, seems I'm all out. Thanks for all your efforts Hinck, I look forward to seeing the outcome of the game.

Bravo Sandy, what a wonderful ending to our first Mafia School game! Thank you to all the new players for participating in this endeavour, and thank you Sandy for being such a wonderful host and teacher. Congratulations to those of you that survived, an admirable effort for your first game. That and a bit of luck always helps too. A round of apple sauce? Sounds like a plan.

OMG, I love free stuff! I want castle! And Star Wars! And and and... everything! You don't have hats do you? Dragonator coughs

All in due time people. I do have plans for our own little handbook for Mafia, but I don't have the time to get it done right at this moment. It is on the agenda though.

As it was I who brought forward the original accusation, I will now back that up with my vote. I think Cameron has explained it well; we have some solid leads against Helen which can't be ignored, and we don't have any other substantial evidence against anyone currently. Therefore, with the best of intentions, I shall Vote: Helen Hippo (def).

As I said, Helen is an option we should explore, and currently has the most evidence against her. I know some of this is more inference than solid fact, but that is my interpretation of events. I suspect, as a theory, that Helen and Felix were both converted, as this makes the most sense to me. I think it is unlikely we would have two converters that would do the same thing, and Felix being converted explains both his alignment as scum, not neutral, and the continuation of the arsonist action, as it is being handed around to the scum. Thus, it would make sense for Helen to now be the arsonist, in my opinion at least, and this combined with the factual result we got on her in investigation and her failure to carry out her action last night as instructed is condemning. I'm not trying to say it is conclusive though, anything but. However, we need to vote out someone today, and currently I feel Helen is our best bet. If other people have suggestions, I am more than happy to hear them, that is what this morning is for, after all. Alternatively, since we don't have entirely conclusive evidence, I would be willing to give Helen the benefit of the doubt for the time being in favour of a better conviction. I thought it was time for the information to be made public anyway, as this should be a group decision.

I wouldn't really call a guilty result from a previously proven source "circumstantial". What do the rest of you all think?

That's nice, welcome back. Unfortunately you have some unfinished business elsewhere.

Alright, I've finished confirming a few things, and I have some good and some bad news. The good news is that I am confident we have uncovered another Demon Legionnaire. The bad news is that that person is our self-proclaimed "towniest of town", Helen Hippo. I'll now explain what I used to come to this conclusion, so that you can all consider it and decide what to do. First of all, I don't think Helen has been scum all along. My theory is that when Helen was resurrected she was converted to the demon legion, whether intentionally or not, by the reviver, just like Felix was (Felix previously being neutral). This also agrees with the theory that scum actions can be shared, which would account for the continued presence of the arsonist after we killed Felix. Because Felix and Lauren were already under heavy scrutiny, Helen played along, but since then I have seen several things that indicate she is no longer one of us. Firstly, and most importantly, we have an investigation result from the same source that confirmed Lauren as scum, indicating that Helen is a demon legionnaire. I was highly skeptical of this at first, and wanted to deal with Sheldon yesterday, but I now have a few more reasons to suspect Helen. Firstly, we set Helen up to test her night action claim last night. and had Kenda follow her to make sure she did as we asked. Now we find Kenda dead. Helen knew that Kenda was the watcher, and as she suspected we were going to test her, this was a likely kill for her if she is the new arsonist. Which I believe she is. Next, we have the suspicious claim this morning from Helen that her action was unsuccessful. As I know for a fact that someone targeted the person she was meant to watch, I know this is a lie. That's the main evidence I have currently. We can also note that Helen has said a lot less since her revival compared to before, and yesterday made an inaccurate vote against Sheldon with no other explanation. Thus, I am most confident that Helen is no longer what she once claimed to be. Please consider the above evidence and let me know what you all think.

Not finding out the alignment of Sheldon is a real pain, as it means we can't analyse anything that was said yesterday in relation to the result now either. Ah well, we shall just need to move onwards and upwards. It appears the black wand killer did not strike last night, nor did any other 2nd killer other than the arsonist, which suggests we may be rid of them. I hope that is the case. As for the arsonist, I find his or her choice of target to be a very interesting one. Only a few people knew of Kenda's actions I believe, so I am going to look into this and see what I can come up with.

Thanks for that Horace. I guess what find strange is that you received so much information out of what simply appears to be a passive protection role. I mean, it isn't usual for you to be told all the details of what happens during the night, if you're told anything at all. But for some reason, you were told who your attacker was, and had the whole scene described to you in graphic detail. Which is just plain odd. Are you sure you don't have a powerful hallucinogen in that bag?

I agree that we should discuss any other concerns we have since we now have the opportunity, and perhaps that will help us with our voting tomorrow. Personally, I want to know what the hell is up with this crow, and analyse that a bit more. I'm starting to suspect it could be a fake claim made up by Horace to cover for some other action on night 1, and also to suggest not to bother trying to kill him since he has that powder. so, to put my mind at rest, could you answer a couple of questions for me please Horace? I'd like you to tell me the story of the crow again please, and explain exactly what you were told, not what you infer from what you were told. Did you see (as in pictures) the crow?

Me too! Except Friday is today, so I'm travelling shortly. And we're probably not travelling to the same place.

Dragonator goes to find a translator. ISC, you did not vote with the correct format. Tssk tssk.

The polls are open, and as I am confident in the information I have, as well as the clear indication in the opening post of the colour of the wand and the way it relates to the previous wand killer, I will vote: Sheldon Sheepdog (Quarryman). Personally, I think this is the most conclusive lead we have right now.

Right, a compelling defense. Oh, and God didn't give you that wand, Daxia did. Get it right, blasphemer.

Well, that's very convenient, isn't it? And isn't it interesting that, rather than having a brown wand like our town vigilante had, you had a black wand, like the killer we have seen previously. Care to try justifying that?

Well, the events of the night were... interesting to say the least. A few things to consider then: Firstly, our dear town vigilante Benji targeted Sheldon Sheepdog last night. The question is, does that make Sheldon the demon legion vigilante? Please consider the following two lines. The question is, does that suggest that Benji's target is the killer? Or does it mean that Sheldon was protected and a different killer happened to be standing near by, ready to look Benji in the eyes? The problem with that is, who protected him? As we can see, the town protector certainly didn't. Have a think about that, and I'll be interest to hear your thoughts on the matter too, Sheldon. Next, we have the issue of Felix's alignment, and the continued presence of both the arsonist and the black wand vigilante. If the arsonist is really the scum killer, then that means we need to rethink a few things we have assumed. In other news, we have had an interesting investigation result back from last night which I am currently trying to validate. I'm not entirely sure of its authenticity currently, so I won't say who it is for yet. It is very strange... I have a couple of other suspicions that I may divulge later, but for now I just wanted to lay out some points for us to think about and to start the day with. There are potentially another 3-4 Demon Legion cultists out there, as well as the serial killer, so we need to stay sharp people, they will be trying to mislead us. Oh, and has anyone heard anything about this damn crow? I'm starting to think that may have been a fabrication of our dear stallion's mind. And to add to what I previously said, I have also been informed just now that Sheldon targeted Benji last night. So, I think we have the black wand killer quite thoroughly nailed people.

Bah, seems I'm back too late to join in the fun. Well, at least I'm glad my interpretation of events was correct. Thanks for coming clean Felix, even if it was just to get a penalty vote, you filthy whore pyromaniac. Well, in accordance with my earlier statements, I will now Vote: Felix Fox (Shadows). What the hell happened to Lazlo!?

<Insert standing ovation here>

I thought I explained it quite clearly? What more can I say?

That picture is awesome! Seriously, it isn't like any of you lot offered us a spare room. Sheesh.