Jim

At least, we fell for it

You're good! Thanks for asking

Is the written note fake news?

Wow!

Yup, that’s true. Very prone to grease marks etc.

Yeah, you are probably right. I immediately associated it with an energy drink, but a fruit drink/soda makes more sense. Although, an average fruit drink (or Fanta) almost contains as much suger as Red Bull, but that's entirely different discussion

Wow. Just Wow. Not sure why you feel the need to attack someone online with faulty accusations, but I recommend toning it down and engage in a cvilized discussion. We are not in court, so I don't need to prove anything. I have not complained in my review at all. Nor have I mentioned that I would not buy the sets because of the price. I have even stated that I like the new system and that I would absolutely (with exclamation mark) switch to the new system. But I do think the new system comes at a price. That's all. Thanks

I agree the modulars do need some adjustment before working nicely with these new plates. Agreed. I like the parts, but I do have the feeling that the system is not yet complete.

For what reason?

I have published a combined review of some city sets, where I will discuss the new road plates. Let me know what you think of the new system.

REVIEW - 60292 TOWN CENTER & 60290 SKATE PARK & 60281 FIRE RESCUE HELICOPTER INTRODUCTION Recently TLG offered me "some City sets" to do a review. I didn't know which sets, but when they offer you sets for a review, it's hard to refuse. When I opened the box, I noticed that two of the sets contained the new road plate elements. I am not much of a City builder, but when I saw the new system I was interested to see what it was all about. Therefor, I was happy to receive these sets and start building. This won't be a full blown review like I usually write for Technic or Star Wars. However, I like to show you the sets and share some of my feelings about the new elements. Usually I apply the stickers, but since I will most likely be donating these sets, I have ommited the stickers, so the new owner can decide whether to apply them or not. PICTURES Pictures can be clicked to view hi-res versions. My Flickr album contains all the photos taken for this review. DISCLAIMER TLG has provided these sets. It's not my goal to promote these sets. It's my goal to give you an honest opinion about them. Therefore, the opinion in this review is my own and is in no way linked to TLG. SET INFORMATION Number: 60292 Title: Town Center Theme: City Released: 2021 Part Count: 790 Box Dimensions: 47,5 cm x 37,2 cm x 9,0 cm Box Weight: 1722 gram Set Price (RRP): £ 89.99 / $ 99.99 / € 99.99 Price per Part: £ 0.11 / $ 0.13 / € 0,13 Links: Brickset, Bricklink Number: 60290 Title: Skate Park Theme: City Released: 2021 Part Count: 195 Box Dimensions: 27,8 cm x 25,7 cm x 5,5 cm Box Weight: 430 gram Set Price (RRP): £ 24.99 / $ 39.99 / € 29.99 Price per Part: £ 0.13 / $ 0.21 / € 0,15 Links: Brickset, Bricklink Number: 60281 Title: Fire Rescue Helicopter Theme: City Released: 2021 Part Count: 212 Box Dimensions: 27,8 cm x 25,7 cm x 7,2 cm Box Weight: 546 gram Set Price (RRP): £ 24.99 / $ 39.99 / € 29.99 Price per Part: £ 0.12 / $ 0.19 / € 0,14 Links: Brickset, Bricklink THE BOXES 60292 - TOWN CENTER The front of the box shows the Town Center with lots going on. Being a town center that makes sense of course. LEGO sets are all about telling stories and this set is no exception. The right bottom corner shows the deputy's daughter Madison Yea and sanitation worker Shirley Keeper. Apparently, they appear on the hit TV Series City Adventures. I haven't seen any episodes, but my nephews knew what I was talking about when I asked them. TLG probably includes one or two minifigures of the series in the city sets. Gotta catch 'm all. The thumbnails below show the contents of the box. 60290 - SKATE PARK This set features a cool Skate Park with three dare devils doing awesome tricks on the various objects and a lady promoting and handing out energy drinks. The box tells you that a road plate is included. It seems that the none of the minifigs appear on hit series this time The thumbnails below show the contents of the box. 60281 - FIRE RESCUE HELICOPTER This sets contains new fire elements (I think they are new) and spring loaded water shooters to distinguish the fire. There's another celebrity minfig appearing in the set. This time it's Clemmons, the motor bike riding firefighter. The thumbnails below show the contents of the box. HIGHLIGHTED PARTS Since this isn't a full blown review, I won't go into every detail of new parts. To be honest; I'm not even sure whether these sets have new parts at all. I assume the fire and water elements are new, since I haven't seem them in other sets yet. Usually we get the smaller flame elements. One thing I do know for sure, is that two of these sets contain the new road plate system, which is interesting enough on itself. One thing to mention beforehand is that these parts are 100% genuine LEGO. Looking at the picture, it's very hard to see the logo on the studs. Trust me, the logo's are present. Or don't trust me and click the image for a hi-res version of the picture So, here it is....the new road plate. Hooooray! Or not so hoooray?! I will discuss that later. Let's look at the new elements first. 16x16 ROAD PLATE The main plate of the system is the 16x16 road plate (not sure what the official name is, but I bet it's something like that). The old road plate is 32x32 studs, so 4 of these plates make up a single old plate. The 4x2 cavities (if you will) are meant to create the center broken white line(s) of the roads.The cavities on the side are used to connect plates to each other or to connect buildings or a sidewalk. 8x16 ROAD PLATE The secundary plate is the 8x16 road plate. As expected two of these plates make up the bigger version. One of the smaller plates has a printed pedestrian crossing while the other is unprinted. Having different sizes allows for a versatile design, which isn't always made up of 32x32 squares. Without giving my final judgement, I'd say that's a big plus. Here's a bottom view of both plates. To complete the new system, TLG has introduced these slopes. This design is similar to an existing slope design, with the addition of the protrusion at the side that connects to the road plates. These are just 2x4 and 1x4 tiles, but one of them is printed with a line to create the broken line on the road. THE COMPLETED MODELS This section describes the finished models. I haven't included any building pictures, so I won't spoil any details 60292 - Town Center The Town Center has a lot going on, what obviously the purpose is of this set. The rights shows a pizzeria on the bottom floor, with a little dojo on the first floor. Glass and paper is recycled in LEGO Town, because that's the right thing to do. Having a clean car is also very important. Everything is neat and tidy in LEGO Town :D As you can see on the bottom right, the pizza oven is on fire. This fire is built using the common flame parts. Not sure whether the thief set the oven on fire, but he sure got his hand on a pizza. As you can see in the picture, the flame parts are very versatile. They can be used as water sprays as well. Don't you hate it when people leave their old paper on the street?! I sure hope that seeing eye dog has spotted the biker. The women with baby is having a good time in the park. TLG is all about inclusion, so there's a lot of diversity in this town. While the pizza chef is talking to the little girl, the thief is taking a hike with the pizza. 60290 - Skate Park This smaller set contains a single new road plate and a bunch of minifigs. There's even a guy in a wheel chair using the ramps. Ride on brother! The park is promoted by Vita Rush, the Red Bull of LEGO Town. They lady with the phone is handing out free cans! Get yours while supplies last. This is a fun little set and if you are interested in the new road plates, this might be a set to pick up. This set also demonstrates that you can build stuff on the road plates, which gives builders some nice options. 60281 - Fire Rescue Helicopter What would LEGO Town be without its own Fire Rescue Helicopter. Looking at the fire elements, the design makes we wonder whether these parts have been used in arctic (or some other theme) sets before. Enlighten me if you know the answer. The helicopter has the spring loaded system we usually see in Star Wars. This time it's used to shoot water to distinguish the fire. Kids love shooting stuff, so they will probably love this as well. Add +1 for a helicopter and +1 for fire fighters and I'm sure we have a winner. ROAD PLATES I do like the new road plates, but I am not very fond of the way the designers connect the road plates to the buildings, more specifically to the terrain where the building are built on. I do miss some sort of side walk and I find it rather odd that the terrain is lower than the street, because that's usually not the case. The versatility is the new system is great, but it doesn't look very authentic or realistic. Obviously, this can easily be solved, but I am not a big fan of the out-of-the-box solution. Set 60304 - Road Plate which comes with four road plates and a pedestrian crossing. This will set you back around 20 bucks (or euro). This a lot more expensive than the old road plates, but you do get 111 pieces more. I'm not really sure how to compare the value for money of the two solutions. If you are in need of a big city layout, the old plates obviously provide a cheaper solution. However, if you are looking for a versatile and flexible brick built layout, the new system is the better choice. I do prefer the new system, but it needs some work on the sidewalks. Marcel Steeman posted his idea for bike lanes on LEGO Ideas. I like the idea, but it could be a bit smaller. Would be nice to see TLG provide slopes which are 6 wide, instead of 8, but that would make it harder to connect different sections. So, maybe even smaller 4 wide slopes with a 2 wide protrusion. PRICE I was wondering whether the new system makes a set significantly more expensive. Looking at other sets, like the 60306 - Shopping Street, I started counting the parts used for the roads. A rough estimate is that the roads consist of 30-odd parts. This leaves us with approximately 500 non-road parts (the set has 533 parts). The price of the set is 70 euro. That does feel a bit steep. I'm missing 20 euro somewhere. Let's compare the Town Center to the 60203 - Ski Resort, which is a set with a similar kind of part distribution, some buildings, vehicles and minifigures. This set has 806 parts and costs 80 euro. The Town Center has 790 parts and costs 100 euro. Again, a 20 euro difference. I know the comparing sets based on part count isn't entirely fair, but it's hard to ignore the fact that the Ski Resort is 20 euro cheaper than the Town Center. And it's hard to ignore that the Shopping Street costs 70 euro, while it's basically a 50 euro set. EXTRA INFORMATION If you are looking for more information or some in-depth reviews, check out this and this article on New Elementary. COMBINED MODELS I have been toying around with the sake park and combining the three sets to make a bigger town. Combining these three sets, results in a ton of playability. Two fire fighting moto bikers ready for some...fire fighting. And pizza maybe. Don't forget to grab your free soda. Is that construction worker hitting on the woman with the baby?! I sure hope daddy is not around. The energy drink lady sure has a cool car. THE VERDICT My verdict is that I like the new road plates. I do prefer a brick-built solution over the older thin base plates. Am I in love with new system? Not yet, and that's because I am not fond of the way how the roads are connected to the buildings. And the new system lacks a sidewalk, which I really mis. A sidewalk provides so many ways to make your town or city more realistic. This isn't a huge disaster, since a sidewalk can easily be added. But I was hoping that TLG provides a solution out-of-the-box. Obviously this wouldn't make sets even more expensive. I do wonder whether TLG has considered placing holes here and there, so you can create a power grid for lights?! Universal praise for the new system? Not entirely. Would I switch to the new system when building a town or connecting my modulars? Absolutely! PROS Lots of options to make unique versatile designs The option to build wider street (or smaller streets) New system looks a lot better (imho) than the ancient base plates Brick-built solution, so road plates can be customised CONS The new systems seems to push the price up Considerable investment to replace your old system if you have already built a big city No out-of-the-box sidewalk Streets are positioned higher than buildings, instead of lower No option to pass through small wires under the road plates (would have been nice) Thanks you for reading this review. All pictures can be found here.

Interesting. That is something we need to look into. I didn't even know it was a pen holder. I found it as a postcard

We're all good! Take care

Point made. But let's focus on the rumors of the ship, before this turns into a political topic

I will try to reproduce the problem.

I'm curious myself too, because I need to start working on it hehe It does seem to run a lot smoother indeed

I agree on the "Feels" part. The "Looks" part will follow

It doesn't improve the chance, but it will definitely help!

Thanks you. We are happy to be back online.

@deraven Thank you!

We are a recognized LEGO fan media. Which entails that we don't support/endorse clone/competitor brands. In Community forum (and some other cases) we make an exception, but this is a LEGO forum.

Yup. We agree on the more modern look. I will be working on a new them which represents EB in a modern way. Some subforums might still keep their own theme, but the main theme will be different.

We have upgraded the server and we are back in business. We have created a topic to discuss problems, issues, suggestions etc related to the server move. Thank you for your patience and enjoy.

As you have probably noticed, we have been busy moving the forum the our new server. We experienced some issues, so it took longer than expected. We hope that everything is working properly, but if you encounter any issues, let us know. What's next? We have updated our test site with the new version of the forum software We will work on new themes and solve the problems with the themes When we have tested everything on the test forum, we will upgrade the live forum Hopefully, we can make the forum better and make sure the skins are working properly, also on mobile devices.