Classic_Spaceman

I created this thread for discussion and speculation regarding the Summer 2020 AR-based theme "Leaf", so that such discussion does not overrun other threads (See Hidden Side 2020).

That is true, unfortunately, but I was thinking of a more-or-less direct successor to the Space Squad that would capitalise on the qualities that made it popular, combined with a few other marketable traits. Small, brightly-coloured, Minifig-focused sets would both not overlap with either Star Wars or sci-fi action themes, and would fill a specific (and currently unfilled) niche - A collectible, KFOL-oriented, City/Friends hybrid with a space setting.

The orange Spaceman looks excellent, and I am particularly glad that a new, rather than classic, colour was chosen for the exclusive! A variation of this - I could see a line of “Benny and Friends” collectible sets, similar to Mixels, consisting of a vehicle and a Minifig (Benny, a classic colour, or a new colour). As much as I like large spaceships, small sets formed the core of Classic Space, and such a theme would probably sell more/better than a regular one, since it would facilitate both impulse-buys and army-building (like the Space Squad).

I meant that Cole did not die, then return as a ghost - He simply became a ghost. As for Lady E’s portrait, while it was not technically cursed, it served as a portal to the Hidden Side (due to the use of Soul Artefacts). Since El Fuego jumped through the portrait/portal, he may still be alive in the HS.

Though not HS, the DC CMF series features a Yellowish Green fish (with Aquaman) that could be added to the lighthouse.

Is there a third 2020 wave? If not, the two story-based 2HY sets are almost certainly for Season 12.

Correct - There are none. Is El Fuego actually dead, though? We know from the Hidden Side Portal set that humans can survive in the HS, and it seems that the only way for beings in the HS to interact with the real world is as ghosts/via possession. Thus, it is possible that El Fuego is alive in the Hidden Side, and communicating with the others via a possessed skeleton. This would also allow LEGO to circumvent killing a main character, while still allowing said character to be a skeleton (Similarly to how when Cole was a ghost, he was cursed, rather than actually dead).

Disney:

Nice! ? Swapping the cap for this piece would make an excellent counterpart to the CMF Johnny Thunder.

Scott was initially believed to be Jay's avatar, due to their visual similarities. Additionally, based upon Jay's placement on the box-art and frequency of appearance in the sets, he seems to be the focus-character of Season 12. As such, Scott may be a programme that Jay created to assist him in the game (See Clu). I hope so - I want to see more sets in this style! There could be a plot/spoiler reason for Zane's exclusion from the Season 12 sets (e.g. Zane could be a prisoner of Unagami, if he turns out to be Echo Zane), similarly to how Harumi did not receive her "Quiet One" outfit until the following wave.

Beskar originated in the EU, wherein it was also portrayed as virtually-indestructible (as well as unique to Mandalorians/Mandalorian culture). While its first Canon reference is in Rebels, the Mando (Death Watch) armour in TCW is also made of Beskar. Phasma's armour was made from Chromium (salvaged from a Naboo yacht), not Beskar.

OK - That makes sense. ? I think that we should run a test battle first, before trying a full quest, however. Do you have any ideas for what the name will be? I am trying to come up with something (possibly a backronym), but I do not have anything yet. I have also worked on my character and compiled a list of notes/questions - I will probably have more, but this is enough for now! Heroica 2.0 Character - WiP Yelana Bonterix (Classic_Spaceman) Species: Human - Enhanced Gender: Female Age: Unknown Tech: Adaptive-Nanotech Armoured Bodysuit / Blast-proof Visor with active-passive sensor capability, HUD overlay, and integrated long-range Comlink Vitality: 5 Strength: 1 Skill: 2 Smarts: 1 Spirit: 1 Proficiencies: Deception - 2 / Intimidation - 2 / Technology - 2 Credits: 10 Equipment: Inventory: Starting Gear: Spy Kit (2 Standard Energy/Kinetic Weapons / Cloaking Generator / Hacking Chip) Questions/Suggestions/Notes: - Change Vitality to Health (This is what it represents, and "Vitality" sounds like a rolled-for boost to Health). - Change the Defend action to something such along the lines of "Add character's Vitality + Armour Modifier to another character's total Vitality", since I am not clear on what the current Defend action does, and there is no option to protect another player. - What does "Energy/Kinetic" mean? Are these hybrid weapons (e.g. Bowcaster), or does the slash mean "or"? - Can the ranges of starting weapons be chosen, or are they set (I do not see this in the rules). - Are the ranges of weapons limits or maximums - That is, can a long-range weapon only attack from a distance of three squares, or can it attack up to a distance of three squares? - Are hybrid weapons allowed - Either combinations of damage-type (e.g. Bowcaster) or combinations of range (e.g. Shotgun-Axe)? - Can energy weapons switch between stun/kill and bolt/beam settings, and can they be used as cutting devices (e.g. through doors, walls, etc)? - Is death permanent? That is, does a player revive/respawn after a certain number of rounds or at the end of the battle, or is the player in question out for the remainder of the game? - I am concerned that having movement and changing of weapons/equipment take a turn will slow battles down, and that teleportation spells will make battles more confusing. - I am not quite sure what the Smarts stat does, beyond allow for more Proficiencies. - How are weapons upgraded - Directly, or via increasing Attributes? (I think that it is the latter). - Are the Level-Up Points gained after a battle the same as Creation Points? If not, how are Creation Points acquired? - How will the sci-fi/sci-fantasy setting affect QM’s ability to keep quests on-track (i.e. preventing players from simply “Reconfiguring the deflector dish” to solve problems and defeat enemies), or is this how Proficiencies will be used? - I re-ordered the biographical information, and added a "Tech" section purely for RP purposes.

That was my thought as well. ? I actually wonder if LEGO is planning to use the pieces in a future (space-based?!) Action Theme, since magnets are an odd play-feature for City.

I think that, despite the BTA-NR2 Y-Wing being a New Republic starfighter, the one that appears in TRoS is Zorii's personal ship - Hence her inclusion in the Microfighter.

Correct. I assume that LEGO is holding the TIE Whisper back until the second 2020 wave, due to the necessary inclusion of spoiler-y Minifigs/locations. Agreed! ? Also, it appears that the helmets are designed to be interchangeable between Minifigs within each pair (earth-tone / blue), allowing for both Male and Female variants of each Minifig.

I just looked up and watched the trailer - How did I miss that?! Endor is a gas giant with a total of nine moons (one of which is the forest moon, also called “Endor”), so it is plausible that some debris from the DS-2’s explosion was pulled into the orbit of another moon (in this case, Kef Bir).

Maul is not coming back - The Siege of Mandalore arc takes place between TCW "The Lawless" and the comic "Darth Maul - Son of Dathomir". Also, Maul probably will not even appear in the arc (he was captured at the end of "The Lawless"), so it will likely just deal with the fallout of his takeover on Mandalore. The DS-2 wreckage does not appear to be on the forest moon of Endor, but the location shown is somewhere in the Endor System. Admiral Ackbar's emphasis that the DS-2's shield generator was located on the forest moon of Endor seems to indicate that Endor's other moons have different environmental conditions.

This is in the context of the discussion of a leaked torso that was initially suspected to be from HS:

Why did you include him in your ideal Ninjago CMF series, then?

Nice! Would you post pictures of the back, and of the parts?

Of the classic Space themes, Blacktron is the best analogue for the role of Heroica. M;Tron is mining/energy (originally conceived as a rescue/transport team), Futuron and Ice Planet are science/research-focused, Spyrius is too narrowly-focused on spying, Space Police is a law-enforcement agency, and Unitron is security/transportation (which could work, but they lack the mercenary aspect to fit with the Mission pitch). That said, I would have no problem with using another faction for the game, provided that the Missions are based loosely on that faction's focus. As for using an official LEGO name for the game, this has already occurred - The name "Heroica" is drawn from the games of the same name.

There is currently another game with a sci-fi/sci-fantasy setting being developed in the Heroica RPG forum. It is gameplay-focused, rather than building-focused, but it may be of interest to you:

This is currently all that we know:

We are actually getting Pink Zane in the Season 12 sets.

Uh. . . You DEFINITELY misunderstood me, as that is not at all what I intended! I was simply drawing very superficial comparisons, in the context of why the name "Blacktron" could be retained (for whatever form the organisation takes in the game) - Not suggesting that we role-play war crimes and Human-Rights violations. ? The suggestion that Blacktron act in the same capacity as Heroica did in the original game was a second idea, but since I thought of it whilst writing, I can see how may have blended with my first point. My understanding of Heroica, is that it is a private mercenary organisation that deals with nearly all factions, irrespective of their side in a given situation, and whose employees engage in dubiously-legal missions (corporate espionage, theft, etc) - See the Mission pitch by @Waterbrick Down: My personal view of Blacktron is that they are a similar organisation, hence my suggestion. I do apologise, though, if my intentions seemed otherwise. I think that I am not fully clear on some aspects of the game. I was under the impression that there would be an organisation that facilitated missions (like Heroica), and that the factions in the game would be based on classic Space themes (hence appearances by M;Tron and Octan in the test Mission), so my suggestion was simply to use the name "Blacktron" instead of "Heroica", not to force all players to side with a single faction.