Mandalorianknight

There's a difference between "let's only count the DC sets that first released in 2022 as part of the DC theme" and "Let's only count the harry potter sets that aren't based on what the majority of harry potter sets are based on" Like, I get what you're saying, but you have to remember the Batman sets were technically 2021 releases. I think this is the worst year for a lego theme (set wise) ever. One 4+ set. As for marvel though, there's a difference between not liking most of the sets and only one set even existing.

Very professional presentation of this MOC. 10/10 would be incredibly irritated if this was released as an SDCC exclusive.

Yeah, so a technic-interior sanctuary ll (I'm not sure if you knew this already, but it's not just the AT-AT. Many giant sets have technic skeletons, especially those SW vehicles) seems fairly likely to me, aside from the controversial part, as it seems like a pretty good choice.

Umbara would be a nice backdrop for a 501st battle pack. Given the current rate, I suppose in mid-2025 a set with Jesse, Hardcase, ARC Fives, and Dogma is fairly likely. (Not complaining, bring on the 501st variants) Update on the wishlist wave: I've been delayed by my move to college but I'm getting back into the swing of things here and am on some of the larger sets. I've skipped over the fanblade for now, it's presented some real difficulties. I'm re-reading the Thrawn Trilogy, and I'm always shocked by how well the books would have worked as movies. So here's a wave for the first one: New molds: 3: ysamaliri lizard mold, nohgri head, and spacetrooper elbow cannon arm. Microfighters: ISD Chimera ($9.99): Admiral Pelleaon. Red Five X-wing ($9.99): Luke Skywalker (jumpsuit with gloves and helmet cover) Millenium Falcon vs TIE fighter ($19.99): Han Solo and TIE pilot. Battle Packs: Spacetrooper battle pack ($14.99): Mole Miner build with two spacetroopers, a stormtrooper, and a fleet trooper. Rebel Forces ($14.99): 2x rebel fleet troopers, 1x ground crew, 1x X-wing pilot (wedge antilles): Build is a speeder bike. Duel: Showdown on Wayland ($19.99): Small build of the Wayland tomb and candles with Joruus C'Baoth, Grand Admiral Thrawn, and Admiral Pelleaon (with ysamaliri frame on back) System sets: Bissimirri attack ($34.99): Bissimirri market with Leia Organa, Han Solo, a Bimm, and 2x Nohgri assassins. Wedge Antilles's X-wing ($59.99): Wedge's X-wing with Wedge Antilles, a New Republic astromech, an X-wing pilot, Chewbacca, and Mon Mothma. Skipray Blastboat ($69.99): Skipray Blastboat with Mara Jade, Luke Skywalker, R2-D2, Talon Karrde, and a brick-built Vornskr. Myrkr rescue ($79.99): Chariot assault craft, speeder bike, and a bridge build with a collapse function. Comes with Luke Skywalker (disguised face), Han Solo, Lando Calrissian, Aves, 2x stormtroopers, a Scout Trooper, and an imperial officer. Lady Luck ($99.99): Lady Luck ship with Lando Calrissian, C-3PO, Leia Organa, Chewbacca, 2x wookies, and 2x nohgri assasins. The Wild Karrde ($119.99): Wild Karrde frieghter with interior bridge (with ysamaliri tubing) and hold. Includes a mini-scale Luke's X-wing. Comes with Talon Karrde, Mara Jade, Aves, Chin, 2 smugglers, Luke, R2-D2, and 2 brick-built Vornskers, strumm and Drang. Dioramas: Night on Myrkr ($59.99): Myrkr forest with heavy tree cover, ysamaliri on trees, and a vornsker hiding in the background. Figures are Luke Skywalker (torn robes and burn on cheek), Mara Jade (combat gear, torn), and R2-D2 (damaged chest panel). Quote is "I just want to know what happened to you." Chimera Command room ($79.99): Thrawn's command center/art room with Grand Admiral Thrawn, Admiral Pelleaon, 2x navy trooper, and Rukh. Quote is "When you understand a species' art, you understand that species." UCS/MBS: maybe a bit of an odd one, but.... UCS spacetrooper ($199.99): Massive spacetrooper suit. Comes with a spacetrooper (printed arms and side-printed legs), and Grand Admiral Thrawn (dual molded legs, epulat part)

I would not be happy if it was a BP vehicle. To make the largest superheroes set of all time based on a single character, and one who isn't known for their vehicles, would be really annoying. Plus, the figure selection is then limited to BP ones, and while it'd be nice to get a super-detailed T'challa panther design or a better M'baku, I really couldn't care less about any other figures from that. (Except for, of course, Everett Ross, but as the vice president of the Everett Ross Fan Club that totally exists I have to say that) Hmm. I was hoping for that Sentinal or a No Way Home final battle, but this seems to rule it out pretty solidly. I agree that Sanctuary ll is probably the best bet. Q-ship I think is minifig scaled, and I'm not sure how that can be a "celebration of the franchise". I mean, it's from one of the most popular movies, but for a celebration of the franchise I'd be thinking a comics thing, Avengers 2012, Endgame, or NWH. And I can't see them having 2 D2C hulkbusters on shelves anyway, so yeah, I think you're right that Sanctuary ll is a pretty solid bet. We have had a lot of $500 or more vehicles in the past from other themes (AT-AT, star destroyer, Falcons, etc). While it would be moronic for lego to make it, say, a $500 goblin glider or spider-buggy, a sanctuary 2 isn't out of the question by any means.

1. Their "strong values" seem to be somewhat flexible. It's enough for them to pull a fully completed and at least partially distributed set from shelves with the osprey, but there are some situations where they seem alright, say, making a figure who's actor is accused of... some bad crimes with the mythrol. (Who I suppose at least is an alien, so it's not like they're directly producing a horatio sans figure, and either way I personally am fine with a mythrol figure, just pointing out that we don't necessarily know whether or not they would apply those values). With Ezra Miller, I personally think that being actively on the run from police during the time the set's being produced, and having committed like 50 crimes takes him a little over the line of getting a figure of himself, but we don't know what lego will do yet. I thought this for awhile, but the past week or so they've definately said it's marvel. RIP DC 2022. We hardly knew ye.

I was referring to a specific guy who I remember said something about the catamaran, but it appears he's already qouted you. (Sorry @Graupensuppe, it's not gonna happen) But sure, there are some prequel vehicles or sets not related to clone that could do pretty well. However, it's a somewhat short list, and most of the ones we haven't had have good reason to be so elusive (or at least, good reason in lego's eyes). Generic, solid sellers that are prequel but not clone wars that we've had sets of: Anakin's pod (but we saw that in 2019, my guess is it will appear again in a few years), naboo starfighter (with mando's N-1 just having hit shelves, it may be awhile), Jango's slave one (I feel like boba's slave one, being the more popular and relevant model, is keeping Jango's down, but I do hope we see it soon), the speeder chase, I suppose. (That's the one that there's really no easy rationale for it's lack of remake. It's now usurped the spot once taken by the TIE bomber as my "why the hell hasn't it been remade" set) And then the ones we haven't seen yet that I'd think would have the potential to do pretty well: Royal Starship (probably due to issues with getting the chrome. The new UCS RC, if it really is drumlaquered, may provide some hope here), Jedi Temple (my guess here is that it'd have to be a massive MBS style set, and the youngling execution probably doesn't help it's chances. The dioramas, however, may get us a Jedi Council set at least), geonosis areana (this is the one where again, I don't know why we don't already have one. We know one was far enough in development at some point for them to make physical models of the beasts, but we don't know why it was cancelled) So TLDR: Most of the realistic choices for non clone wars prequel sets either have been released fairly recently (Anakin's pod, for example, is only a few months older than our last falcon), a similar set tying them down (mando's N-1, Boba's slave one), or some other issue (coloring for the royal starfighter, potential order 66 stuff for the temple ((which I'm not saying I agree with, just that it's probably what's giving lego pause))). And I'm sure I've missed some.

I'm 18 and overdosing on nostalgia. I think it was genertically transferred by my dad or something because I literally never owned classic space sets.

So it's a vehicle, not a quinjet, and controversial. I feel like one of these has to give, because there honestly isn't anything I can think of that fits all three criteria there. I think the Milano is a possible option, and they're just stoking flames by saying it'll be controversial or whatever. Did the helicarrier get ruled out? Not sure how controversial that would be.

The AT-ST would actually be pretty nice to have in a couple years. Lego's seemingly bumped having some form of AT-ST up to that Landspeeder/x-wing/tie level of near-evergreen (2016-debatably 2018-2019-2022), so I would expect us to see another in 2025 at the latest. And a FO AT-ST would be a nice way to get something different, plus it's a cool design. The B-wing I could take or leave. I think we should get a new Rebel one first since it's been almost a decade, so I'm fine waiting awhile for one. Same with the FO battle pack... sure, it's been 3 or 4 years, but on the other hand we had quite a few within a short timeframe, and FO troopers are pretty cheap on bricklink, so I'm not exactly hoping that that's the next BP. Uh, a few things here. First, we don't know, but my guess is prints. I agree that cloth/plastic would be better, but it's more expensive as well, and I suppose I'd take a $20 BP with printed parts over a $25 one with cloth and molded kamas. (Jeez, a $25 battle pack. We better see prices go down if/when inflation goes down and supply lines get better, or the hobby's going to get too expensive for me to stick with.) I have no idea what you mean by "different weird printing". Excluding the pauldrons/kamas/etc, the only ones with differences are the heavies' helmets, and I'm not sure how "weird" that is. Overall, I don't think promobricks has specified, but just expect 2 heavies, a sniper, and an officer from BF2 with printing for the heavies' pauldrons and maybe the kamas too. I agree. I hope we get printed Kamas, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Sure, but I wasn't saying you should have included a black helmet instead of purple (I assume you mean purple? We already have a dark pink spaceman with the correct helmet), I was just saying that the bricktober ones you were counting didn't have the right helmets.

I think you and I have had this conversation before, but IMO if any marvel set besides the avengers tower is gonna be $500, the Liberty Parlance is the best bet as to what would actually sell. I'd compare it to the death star set, something they could keep selling for years past normal retirement because kids would save for YEARS to buy this. Here are my guesses: The good: NWH set The bad: Avengers icons set The ugly: UCS deadpool head/mask (life sized) (sound brick that swears at you if you remove a part) The "eh, alright": UCS Avengers 1 quinjet (which totally could be made at $500)

True, I did forget about that. Either way, my money's still on it being the officer, it just fits better. As for the mold, I think it would classify as a new mold even if it was pretty much the same. Based on some remarks about the goat mold by one of the designers (he was asked if it would ever come back and he said something like "since the .stl files still exist, it's possible" which implies that the physical molds really do get destroyed like some have claimed. The cost of a new mold isn't making a .stl file of a part, it's the multi-hundred-thousand dollar molds they need to make for it. I assume Cobb wasn't included because they didn't know he would be in the show. He wasn't exactly in the marketing much, and if you look at the mando S2 sets, the first one with "Guest star" type spoiler-ish characters didn't release until over a year after the episode aired. I am going to become the joker.

It's the UCS Quinjet.

Uhhh, the 501st officer doesn't have a pauldron, but he does have a Kama. We'll see either way I suppose. Yeah, we've never had a bad mando set. I'm getting the marauder shipped to me soon, but since I'm in college now it might be awhile before I actually get it! (Since when I learned I was getting it I was still at my home address)

Exactly. I'd say a good 90% of people here generally want clone stuff when saying we need more prequel stuff, at least that and separatist droids (For the two of you who I know are going to say no, stop typing. They aren't realistically making Can-cells, a coruscant air taxi, or a new wookie caterman). And we've been getting at least a lot of clones. It is weird. I mean, it's been 10 years since Dooku, and even characters like vader are generally in expensive stuff. They had the transformation chamber and pod back in... 2017? and those were godsends, but even today Vader, Palpatine, etc are pretty expensive. ...the officer, I think. For most people, clone with antenna=clone commander. Plus, an ARC would likely have a new helmet mold. Nah, Lambent Seeker skin. But yeah as for lego at least a Colbalt ARC would be nice since it'd fit into a legion (501st), and I agree promobricks would have mentioned it. Other way around, I think. Child was already out but it was the first set with Beskar Mando. I remember it was super popular at the time because of how requested beskar mando was, but now with him everywhere opinion's shifted. But I totally agree with your overall point. Mando sets don't miss. (It feels wrong to include the ones containing stormtroopers here, but I will)

These could all be interesting sets eventually, but I agree that time is a factor here. Not just because we have to wait for the kids who grew up with it to become nostalgic teens/adults like it did for the prequels (which I honestly wonder if it'll happen that way at all, since people are on the internet from a younger age now. Like, will an 8 year old who saw TLJ have a different opinion of it if even at the time all he saw was negative comments online? But I suppose once the new trilogy releases it'll be the punching bag and everyone will weirdly decide the sequels were awesome because they aren't the new trilogy.), but because of HOW MUCH sequel content we had from 2015-2020. There were at least 3 waves solely dedicated to sequel content, with the following 2 waves after each film usually containing another 3-5 sets for that film. So part of the issue just becomes that there's not too much from the sequels that'd do super well. I think Black One, Kylo's TIE from IX, Exogol, and a new resistance bomber could all do fairly well releasing in the next year or two, but a lot of remakes, and a lot of newer stuff, I just can't see doing all that well.

Yeah, I'm with @Agent Kallus here. I got a fighter tank day one (still haven't opened it, though), but haven't found any clone packs since I started looking. I'll glady trade ya!

I don't dislike... well I don't dislike TFA at any rate, and a Black One remake has been on my wishlist for years. I have no idea how you decided that I must hate the sequels and think everyone else does too. But seriously, look at this site. There are not very many requests for sequel sets. As for the last part, there's sort of a two-pronged thing there: Yeah, there are a lot of OT and clone sets...because that's what sells best. Plus, I'm not sure how you think the vast majority is only OT and clones. Look at the 2020-2023 set list, if you will: Just off the top of my head, we've got: a fallen order set, at least 8 mandalorian sets, 2 kenobi sets, at least 4 PT era sets without clones involved, 2 TBOBF sets, an Andor set, the list goes on. My guess is if you crunch the numbers for 2020-2022 (the post-new-film-every-year-era), you'd get roughly 50-60% being OT or clones. Which seems pretty fair to me, since that's the most well-known and well-recieved films + the most popular characters from another trilogy. And while certainly a slight majority, it's not an overwhelming or vast one. Ok, you got me there. We do need an exogol set. But I'm gonna come back to my theory that the gimmick style sets have OT for the first few years since it sells best before branching out. I bet in 2024 we'll see at the very least a mandalorian diorama, if not PT ones, assuming the two upcoming dioramas don't crash and burn (which I don't think they would, but you never know)

IMO, this seems to be lego's mindset, and I think its a huge misstep for them. So many of their new themes (Vidyo, Hidden Side, etc) rely on apps for the main gimmick, and seem to belay the thought that instead of trying to stop kids from being on their phones all the time, we should just "redirect them" to things that include both screens and physical bricks. So I have two arguments against it: a business one and a more real-world one. 1. The app integration doesn't seem to be all that sucessful. Hidden side made it the base 3 years, but they still functioned without screens pretty well, and was by no means a smash hit. Dimensions was cancelled before it's intended end, and I gurantee the only reason it made it as long as it did was because of all the exclusive liscensed figures. Fusion only lasted one wave. Vidyo was an atrocity and died hilariously quickly. Mario's a weird spot, since it's technology based but doesn't have quite as much app integration, and more importantly, lego could release a red 2x4 that says mario on the side and it would sell. Then look at lego's most successful non-liscened themes: Ninjago, city, friends. And while they might have tie-in shows or games, you don't need an app to play with the set as intended. Time and time again we see lego's app integration attempts fail, and for some reason they won't stop trying. 2. Why are we trying to integrate apps into legos in the first place? It feels to me like giving up and deciding, "well, kids are going to be on their phones all day anyway, might as well try and make legos fit in with that" when it feels like the right move might be for parents to, y'know, not let their kids use their phones all day. Especially when you consider lego's target age range for most of these is 6-12. Exactly. I'd guess we're no more than 10 years out from lego trying to remove instructions from standard sets under the guise of being "environmentally conscious" or "not wanting to waste paper" or something. Sorry, last thing. How difficult exactly do you find the instruction booklet to be? More than that.. do you keep all your physical instructions? Like, I'll keep the ones from really rare or expensive sets, or the ones that are big enough to be bound and not just stapled, but... every set?

You're right, I missed that. I agree that the figure selection is bad, but IMO it's quantity of figures that's the issue. We're getting two minifigs and a brick built gonk in a $65 set... that's crazy. But the TIE Pilot and Vader are both solid choices. Vader is still fairly expensive on sites like BL when you account for how common he is, usually around $15-20 for any variant. I agree. A bomber scaled to the solo TIE would easily be $100+. ... we're really gonna play semantics here? Fine, PT-era. Which nets us 3 sets. First of all, did anyone WANT any of these sets to be replaced with ST sets? Second, I find the "only one PT playset" disengenous. While that's technically correct, the PT era is also getting two $70 helmets. For the entire time the helmets were OT or mando only, people complained about how they needed to make PT helmets. Now that we're getting them, they don't count? If you look at the sets we know are coming, it's: 1 TBOBF microfighter (potentially OT, but I'd be willing to bet it's TBOBF) 1 PT era battle pack 1 OT playset 2 PT helmets 2 Mando playsets 2 OT dioramas Seems pretty balanced to me.

"It's about drive, it's about power, we piraka, we devour. Yo Yo, Piraka!" This is really impressive for a joke. Very imposing with some great part choices (like the fists for sides of the stomach!)

A lot of people have a better opinion of that movie in more recent years, and either way, the movie being bad doesn't mean the designs are. Either way, its a batmobile. As for The Bat, it's based on what most people consider the best batman franchise, so if we're going off fan opinion....

Totally agree with your accesory pack choices, I think they're very likely. I also agree, and like the positivity. Seems like there's a lot of complaints here for a wave that gives a lot of people what they want: At minimun, 5 new figures (501st clones, Endor Luke, Endor Leia), with more probably included in the mando sets, and always the possibility any existing characters will get new prints. Nice balance of OT, mandoverse, and PT Another clone battle pack. Specifically some highly requested choices (a "real" 501st battle pack, an endor speeder chase set, PT helmets, TIE bomber, etc.) When people say lego doesn't listen to the fans, point them to this wave. One cool thing is that aside from the heavy's torso, they're normal 501st clones just with extra parts... so you can pretty much use this as a "normal" 501st pack too. I think I've just talked myself into getting at least 2 copies. Also, just realized this: This 501st pack is coming right as the last one retires. I wonder if it's a new evergreen set, where they try to always have one on shelves (Like x-wing, tie, falcon, landspeeder)

Yeah, no, I totally agree with you. We're not the targets for the repeats. That said, unless the throne room diorama is actual garbage, it's an instant purchase for me. I actually use the Jet trooper pack in blue for my OT boba (not my UCS Slave one OT boba though, he sits unaltered behind that cockpit screen, never to be exposed to the elements) I mean, not all the legions, but yeah, I think we'll see more soon. Lego's figured out that clones sell well. My guess is within the next 3 years we'll have a 212th battle pack, kashyyk and Coruscant guard battlepacks or semi-battlepacks like the tank, another 501st set with named characters and/or ARCs and ARFs, and 1-2 slightly more obscure legions like the 327th or galactic marines. I'm excited for people to have an official TIE bomber, and like I said a TIE bomber is better than no tie bomber, but I can't see it being nearly big enough. I do agree that the figures were a loss though. TIE pilot is of course neccesary and a GONK is fine, and I suppose Vader works as the "main character" pull. But for a $65 set to have 3 figures, one of them built from basic bricks.... I think it needed at least one more, probably two. Just Ozzel and a snowtrooper or something would have been fine.