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That would suck quite badly. Even if you take away all the premium packaging of 42056, you will need to make the thing smaller, and given the fact that porsche want their cut as well, the gearbox is most likely going to get sacrificed, making it a 42077 in porsche wrapping. That said, someone mentioned the 911 RSR earlier in this thread, some months ago, so maybe it is just a rumour being recycled, and maybe there was truth to it... who knows? Given that we are just over two months away from release, im surprised not more has leaked though

42077 was borderline, i cant see them adding 500 parts to that without adding functions, im expecting a decent gearbox at least 30 and 40 euros for 92 and 93 sounds good though, here in NL itll be 35 and 45, but thats no big deal

Im rather puzzled by 42092, supposedly a rescue helicopter at $39.99, but a meager 325 pieces, compared to 42093 (the supercar) offering 579 pieces for only $49.99. The helicopter is well above the general $0.10/piece line, while normal technic tends to be (wel) below that, some going as low a 6 or 7 ct/piece. Now on some higher price/piece sets the difference accounts for big specialty parts or PF, but i cant imagine a $40 set containing any PF, nor can i imagine a lot of large/expensive parts such as wheels/tyres in a rescue helicopter, the best i can come up with is three rotor blades, which should be that big of a deal. 93 and 96 look bang on track to me, i love ~$50 technic sets, they tend to offer good value in terms of features and interesting parts for the price, 96 at $150 might be a tad expensive for my taste, but the part count is there to back it up, so im expecting something good.

That was a peugeot, but i doubt it, there are far more iconic rally cars then the 205, and the clash with Ideas puts them in a tight spot if they wanted to do that Personally i'd expect a 4th car later in the year a-la 720s if we only get three cars now (although id be disappointed with another mclaren) And im happy about two medium priced sets rather then one medium and one high, ive always skipped the high price sets, but €40-50 for two cars is fair game to me, so that means more sets in my ballpark

Doubt it, that thing is basically a chiron in a tracksuit, a more extreme take on the veyron SS

With say, the porsche license, it would have cost 120 or 130 for tge same part count and features

Thanks for pointing that out, someone else suggested there was intel on the two cars being licensed, i was speculating of off that Personally i prefer non licensed, a licensed gt car would probably have cut some corners while an original design has less cost overhead, so more features

Pretty much, Lego tend to name their vehicles close enough to leave no doubt as to what they are supposed to be, but far away enough to sidestep any licensing issues ("grand prix racer", "24 hour race car") Supercar probably refers to something which you might find in the speed champions lineup, but not race related, and going by the set size i would gamble no license, so a generic supercar. The "GT car" would probably be something GT3 racer-like, licensed could be an option here, as $150 would leave room to do justice to a proper licensed car ($50 imho does not, and i dont see why a car manufacturer would agree to that), but there is still the porsche GT3 RS which would dwarf a $150 set, and again im not sure if any brand would like playing second fiddle that badly. I would absolutely throw my wallet at TLC though, if it turns out the GT car is a Ferrari 488 GT3/GTE, imho we are loooong overdue for a technic/racers style ferrari

Love seeing a FWD car for once, good effort!

Neither name suggests anything f1 like, so dont get your hopes up

42090 is missing in that list and is probably the second pullback

Interesting list if it is true The supercar i would expect to be interesting, 42075 is in the same ballpark, and for me was an excellent set, id expect something like a simple sprung rear axle, a diff and a V6 or something. The helicopter, dont know what to expect, but im a sucker for a good helicopter, so that is certain buy The GT-racer, for a $150 price point (compared to 99 for 42077 and 120 for 42039), id expect some significant extra features, it cant not have a gearbox at that price for instance. Im not sure how i would feel about both sets being licensed though, on the one hand some of lego's original models tend to look awkward, but licensing usually adds significant cost as well, if the GT car is indeed a porsche, i totally see it being just a 42077 reshell with no added features besides porsche body work and stickers, which would be a pretty poor show, especially since a 911 with gearbox at $150 would massively undercut the GT3RS (if that is still on sale then). I do hope we get another motorbike though, 42063 will be two years old next december, which is the traditional lifespan. That said, 42039 went away after two years, but wasnt replaced by 42077 untill a year later.

The video is a bit cringe-worthy (i mean, cat-erham, really?) but it shows the capabilities of the crane quite well. I especially like the slewing shot with the old classic space set. On one hand it is very impressive that a lego crane can actually do this, on the other hand i find all the flex very worrying, seeing the central part of the chassis warp compared to the wheels makes me fear its going to fall apart.

I dont think any of these "signals" hold any real value, we have seen colours feature only in a single set with for instance 42039 with bright green Lego appear to just do as they please with regards to colour. Now im all for livening up the lineup, but the huge variation we've seen recently makes life hard for modding/moccing

The sad thing is that the kids probably dont know what they are missing. 8880 was amazing back in its day, introduced me to AWD as a concept, and i always disliked the B-model a bit (despite it looking much cooler) for only being 2 speed and RWD in comparison. 42077 should have been a showcase for AWD as a mechanism, as 42000 was for pushrod suspension and 42063 for shaft drive bikes for instance.

Agreed, i was extremely disappointed. Still ended up buying one for @Lox Lego's porsche Can-am C-model. Im currently in the process of building the A-model so i can mod the crap out of it though, AWD is first on the list, because it quite simply isnt a rally car without that. My guess would be that a 4-speed would have put it too close to the porsche in terms of features for lego's comfort though, and a 2 speed wouldve been a bit weird. In the end the set is quite lacking though, just putting in AWD would have made it on par for the price to me.

I dont see 42077 being replaced next year, so no fears there. But as for repetition, i think the porsche/chiron are exempt due to being a range of their own, but you have a point when it comes to 42000, 42039 and 42077. But as a massive fan of cars, id like to see the problem tackled the other way around. 42077 for instance should have had AWD and a 4 speed gearbox, that would have made it a distinctive set from the previous ones. As it stands it is much too simple in terms of driveline etc.. (mechanically, it is basically 42037, a much cheaper simpler set, in a rally suit)

Im not a fan of the Claas either, i dont like farm equipment, doesnt do anything for me. That said, the Claas does have some interesting features, and apparently is a pretty cool build, the steering mode selection for instance should be an interesting mechanism I agree on 42069 as it is, but i think it has decent modding potential, maybe its time to start looking into modification? If i compare the time i spend on modding to the time building the official set, it probably increases my value for money 10-fold on some sets. As for the porsche/chiron, the porsche at least can be found at nicely reduced prices, prices are going up again, but amazon.de had it for €220 for a while (MSRP is €300), id expect the chiron to be available for a good chunk under MSRP as well

If you are into (race)cars, id recommend trying to track down 42039, mine is modified extensively (although mostly cosmetic), and i had a lot of fun making it more accurate. 42075 IMHO also offers a lot of potential, i changed mine to a pick up with dual shocks in the rear, still trying to think of a way to put in a flat-4 rather then a flat-2 though

Thanks for the forklift review sariel! I dont quite agree with calling it a regular forklift though, those tend to have a much shorter wheelbase and can be used indoors, this, while not really a heavy duty model, at least qualifies as "medium duty" in my book :P

@kepheus Normally im totally on board with the criticisms on colour vommit, but in this case all the weird colours seem to be very well hidden in the final product, so im not that offended The 680 page manual though... i can only imagine. I just started rebuilding 42077 (at a leisurely pace) and why you'd need 295 steps for just over 100 parts is beyond me, the booklet is thick enough to be a novel...

Im not entirely buying the price/partcount discussion myself, sure lego could have made this with 1000 parts less and sold for the same price, but clearly they felt that that would be a less succesful product, or they would have done so, same goes for charging more for this version of the crane. It still is a monstrous parts pack, so anyone looking to just get a bulk of parts to mess around with will be well-sorted with this set. For someone just looking to have a cool crane to play with or display, there are i think better bang/buck options. As for the playable extras, i can respect Jim's point of view, and i dont see a problem with a toolbox and some chains in a 4000 part set, but the whole pre-fab building walls seem pointless to me. Most lego fans buying this crane will have plenty of stuff to lift, off-road vehciles, smaller cranes, or even the container from the mack truck. Sariel also made the point that the seperate walls need to be positioned so precisely, that manual intervention is needed and you cant just build the "house" by crane alone, which rather spoils the point.

Which could be solved by moving the brakes inboard, easily done on any driven axle. (The Alfa 75 for instance has its rear brakes directly next to the gearbox)

Diff locks, 4 wheel steering could have several modes (counter steering in low speed mode to enhance agility, crab steering in high speed mode for stability, as in real cars with 4WS). We've still got a good way to go in terms of gearboxes (as in, the stock gearboxes are far from perfect, just look at what MOCers can build with the same parts). In terms of suspension it would be nice to have something different from the ubiqutous double wishbone setup with no adjustability in terms of camber, a macpherson strut setup would make it possible to have a front mounted engine AND suspension without huuuuge builds. Personally i also think there is ground to be gained on the engine parts/design front, the current engine parts are ~30 years old, and while they are fine for some setups (42048 for instance, excellent look and functionality), i find it disappointing that true boxer engines are impossible (though with a slightly modified conrod and a 1 pin long crank piece, and a 0.5 stud offset in cilinders it would be perfectly doable), and just design wise i think lego can do better. 42037 for instance has an up-down-up-down crank in an inline 4, up-down-down-up is what inline-4s usually have though, and is perfectly doable with stock parts.

Interesting to see how many IT/engineering types hang around here, but i guess that makes sense for the technic subforum :)