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@cehnot Thanks for the file! About the small-medium size galleon, the ship looks fatty. In my eyes, it needs to become longer. I think as a general rule, there is a direct correlation between ship length and height. This custom hull is great! And I like how you made it a little bit wider. Can you post a good quality picture of the front, from about a 45o angle? Posting some pictures of these designs you are referring, will make it easier to understand your problem. What's a "bracer"?

Nevertheless, it's a very good build! I wonder how many more good pirate builds from the past, are here in EUROBRICKS, that people would love to see them.

I'm interested. I'm also interested in seeing some renders of the version you are working now.

Here is the instructions manual for the Skull's Eye Schooner (6286). https://manuall.co.uk/lego-set-6286-pirates-skulls-eye-schooner/

Nice! Can you post your photos somewhere we can enjoy them in greater quality?

I tried for some time before posting, but since I couldn't remember the search terms I used then, I didn't find the results I wanted. That's why I usually save the links of things I find interesting. But in this particular instance I didn't find them interesting then. I remember thinking how stupid it is to buy Chinese knock off of 21322 for $120 (plus more in some instances, due to customs), when you could buy LEGO 21322 for $200.

Discussions I stumbled upon in Reddit, Facebook and some sites in French, German and southeast Asia languages by using google translate. Unfortunately, I didn't keep the links at the time, cause it was at the beginning when I started to search for LEGO Pirates again.

Has anyone build a MOC by combining the remaining pieces of 21322 with the pieces of 31109, using as many pieces as possible, preferably all?

Sales data is very difficult to track and calculate because there are too many sellers in AliExpress. A lot of them close the particular sales page of a product when this product becomes "out of stock". Also a lot of the sellers close their stores and new ones open all the time. Finally, there are also many sellers in southeast Asia that sell Chinese pirates sets and they operate outside the AliExpress platform. Ok, I stopped making a list at 60 sets, cause it will take me a lot of time if I try to find and include all the sets. And there are many many more! A lot of these (probably more than 50%) are of Chinese design, with many being inspired or borrowing aspects of original LEGO sets. The majority of them are from the Pirates side. Imperials are clearly at a disadvantage. There are copies of LEGO sets 6285, 6280, 4184, 4195, 10210, 71042, 21322, 31109, for example. What is interesting is that they copied 6285 and 6280, but they didn't copy 6274, 6271, 6286, 6243, 70413. Also they didn't copy any of the big Pirates and Imperial bases of 1989-1997. They sell Imperial Soldiers and Pirates of the Caribbean mini-figures individually or in packs, but strangely no Pirates mini-figures. Every time LEGO releases a big good set, like 21322 or 31109, in various conversations in forums, a lot of people were anticipating and are anticipating the release of the equivalent Chinese copy, in order to buy it! Lately they have started aggressively coping design of MOCers. From all of the above, there is clearly a big demand for LEGO-like Pirate sets, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten in all this trouble! For comparison, a search in AliExpress for "Castle" or "Knights" sets gives very few results, the majority of them simplistic and of poor visual quality. There are a lot of castle/knights mini-figures though! Like really A LOT!

Number of sales I don't know. But tomorrow I can give you number of ship sets, if you are interested.

Judging by the number of LEGO style pirate ships being sold in AliExpress (copies of official LEGO sets, copies of MOC sets, sets of Chinese design) and lately the number of bases (Pirates and Imperials), there certainly is a quite substantial one.

Adding some photos in your posts, like @evancelt, will be helpful. Especially for us who we don't have "specialty" in minifigures.

They didn't copy the Ideas design. They copied the 4th rate Ship of the Line, scaling it down to the prefabricated hull dimensions. The 4th rate Ship of the Line is a much bigger ship, which wasn't submitted to the Ideas and can't be submitted, due to the very high piece count.

Maybe there was a change of LEGO plans. Guess, we might have to reverse engineer the Caribbean Clipper remake, like we did with the Pirate Bay... for those of us that like this ship and want to build it.

You are right. This monstrosity is a whole category of it's own!