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Read @Ngoc Nguyen s post a from october 8th, apparently recent sets are better, but still not flawless (which imho, isnt to be expected)

42074 had a suspended rear axle as well, with a diff I wouldnt expect it though, if the jeep is "42093 scale", that means very little room for movement in the axles, of just room between the wheels to begin with, and id expect the part count to mostly go to making it look like a jeep rather then functions. Id love to be proven wrong though

That would point to at least one of the actual sets being a McLaren, maybe the speedtail? That is closely related to the 720s, and there arent any newer roadcars worth exploring imho though. So maybe a new F1 set?

Any experiences with recently bought Sians here? From what ive heard lego has publicly acknowledged the colour issues, and fixes are supposed to be implemented, which should at last fix panel colour consistency If they manage to fix the panel/beam colour issues, i might be able to see past the pinhole w/axle thing and seriously consider getting one

Oof, that will have a LOT of stickers, those GTE cars have a sick livery, but that is not going to be a lot of panels left unstickered Still, i'd absolutely love a #51 AF Corse Le-mans GTE-pro car, i just hope they do a slightly better job on the proportions then with the 911 RSR

The Mclaren looks interesting enough, i wonder what the internals look like. The wheel arches do look printed, as i dont see the tell-tale sticker edge on them. The Jeep looks like a pretty cool classic-ish technic vehicle, i hope it has some decent functions for that old school vibe. On the same pic i also see an off-road vehicle, but promobricks lists the price as €130, which suggest control-plus, sadly.

The speed champions lineup this year already shows that when licenses are involved, all logic goes out the window (two jaguars > €40, two lambos > €60), but i cant really see Jeep commanding a higher license fee then McLaren Perhaps the senna has more system style pieces to make up curves and details, versus large (bespoke?) panels on the jeep?

That is a lot of license, a corvette sized Jeep and McLaren and a 42096 replacement ferrari The 18+ label confuses me though, unless it isnt on 42096 scale and more like this , i dont see any complexity justifying 18+ happening.

I think the reason for that is that the Ducati stays well within the possibilities of the medium, at that size/weight, no parts are going to end up with serious friction or load on them. The part count might be twice/thrice that or a motorcycle from technics early years, but it is still in the same ballpark of complexity, size and weight. Scale it all up to a 4000 part 4kg behemoth of a car with 20 gear meshes between wheel and engine, and everything falls apart rather badly. Ever since sets like 42037, 42036, 42074 and the like ive been convinced that while the big sets like the porsche, the monstrous cranes etc.. are very cool, the best and most true technic sets are the €40-100 range, that is where the system still works, and we still get stuff like full suspension, gearboxes which demonstrate the principle etc.. Much like the sets which taught me mechanical stuff when i was a kid, plus the playability is often right on par, since there are no overloaded hand controls where you either have to crank enlessly to move something, or the mechanism cant really handle the strain.

Wow, seriously? I can deal with stuff like inaccurate designs, wrong shift orders etc.. but to the point of breaking parts? Looks like Lego is seriously screwing up with Technic lately, the porsche and bugatti were pushing the limit of what can be done with the medium, it seems sets like the Osprey and Sian are going well over that line, and then there are the weak designs prone to malfunctions when built without extreme care, such as the defender. Then there are sets like 42077 and 42096, which compared to their predecessors are all style and no substance. I have to say, i think the Ducati was my last technic buy for a while, i dont care about a set leaving something to be desired, but if there are fundamental issues to the point where if my kid built it, they could/would end up with a non-functional or broken result, that is a hard pass for me.

man that osprey looks good

The Osprey isnt a weapon system, it is purely a transport craft, and is indeed used in search and rescue roles as well, even if by the military. Given that @Jim posted a confirming quote, i suppose that is really the end of this set, which really disappoints me, which is the fourth time this year for Technic (i ragequit the defender over its poor driveline, the rubberband drive in the Duc is bad design, the lime colour problems are inexcusable for a €380 set, and now the cancel a very promissing set at the eleventh hour due to some offended shouty people) Ill probably take a break from lego for a while, this shit is all way too frustrating for what is supposed to be a relaxing hobby, i just need to make my mind up if i get the charger before i go focus on other things

How about we dont cancel any sets? (although i wouldnt have minded a non licensed charger, ill probably start out by deleting the wheelie bar and supercharger, then do some more realism inspired mods) @nhk Yup, The lime green problems already put me into serious doubts about the Sian, and i was kinda getting past that and gearing up for buying and modding the charger, this move really puts another dent into my enthusiasm for lego, the level of cool technic stuff in the Osprey made it the first non-bike/car set i was interested in in ages. Ah well, more time for other hobbies then

Yup, totally realistic to expect some random online person to start up their own company. And personally im not convinced this was an internal mistake by lego, chances are some people reviewed the set idea and approved it, and now this protest means they wind it all back and take the easy way out of claiming its a mistake and cancelling the whole thing. As for choice, this takes choices away from shop owners and buyers, i literally cant choose anymore to buy this set. And if this thing had never existed, fine, but we've all seen the pics, movies etc.. we got to the point where some people on this forum actually managed to buy one, and now it is most likely gone because TLC decides to bend to cancel culture... and yes that annoyes the megabluck out of me, not only because of this specific set, but also because i dont want to see TLC, or society as a whole move to the point where some vocal minority gets to shout down everyone and bully whoever into conforming to their particular view of what is politically correct and non-offensive, because the internet gives even the smallest voice a giant megaphone, and for every single thing out there there will be someone offended

@Ngoc Nguyen man, add me to the list of people wishing they were you right now Part of me thought of trying to find a shop which still has a few in stock, but no way im going to get FOMO-ed into paying full price, ill wait and see if it gets released. The good news is that the instructions are out there, so assuming some of the critical parts end up released in other colours then lime green, we should be able to build our own down the line.