Sokratesz Posted September 2, 2011 That'll be me. My original post can be found here. Still waiting. I tried opening up a dispute case with eBay but was notified that I can't start one until September 11th (why that particular date I don't know), so I'm just hanging on until then. I'm actually hoping nothing turns up as it'll be easier to try and get my money back, rather than having to return whatever the Chinese seller has sent me and starting a 'item not as described' case with eBay. You fell for it? Oh dear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lobot Posted September 2, 2011 And another one for the UK : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEGO-Star-Wars-10179-UCS-Millennium-Falcon-Brand-New-/250885466507?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item3a69f0698b Actually, I think that this might be another hacked account (which happened a couple of weeks ago) as it's been dormant since 2008. I've just reported it to Ebay, hopefully they'll remove it quickly. Well, I'm very pleased to say that Ebay have just removed this one! It seems weird that their being really slow to close some of the scams, but not others. Ah well, all we can do is keep reporting them (actually I'm making it a bit of a personal crusade!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
into the blue Posted September 2, 2011 You fell for it? Oh dear. Yep. Feel pretty foolish about it too. Hindsight (so I'm told) is a wonderful thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sokratesz Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) It could take a few months but chances are good that paypal will refund your money. *edit: now with additional Y Edited September 3, 2011 by Sokratesz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
into the blue Posted September 2, 2011 It could take a few months but chances are good that paypal will refund our money. Our money? You fell for it too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Deckard Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) Good morning from Spain. Another one... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-Star-Wars-Millenium-Falcon-10179-NEW-/150657430532?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item2313e1f404 and, of course, one negative feedback (only one? I'm glad to hear people don't relay on them) "FRAUD EBUYER DO NOT HAVE LEGO SET 10179 NOW PAYPAL DISPUTE OPEN" I've seen this scam all around the web. I contacted one of them and asked him if I could pay once the set was received (COD says google translator) as I was not going to pay 350$ to someone only because he said he was going to send me the set 10179 (it's not safe; he can send you 10 kg of Duplo and you can't open the package until paid, but in any case I was sure he would say it wasn't possible...). He answered that all he could do was send it to me once I'd paid 200$ and then I would have to pay the 150$ left because he had been scammed in the past. Of course I didn't even answer him (in fact I don't know why I wrote him in the first place...) As they said in Hill Street Blues, "Let's be careful out there" Regards Edited September 3, 2011 by Rick Deckard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sokratesz Posted September 3, 2011 Our money? You fell for it too? Lol no, but the 'y' on my keyboard is sorta broken. I need to press it really hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tiggerkiddo Posted September 3, 2011 This also reminds me how much less fun it is trying to find Lego on ebay but thanks for pointing stuff out like this guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
into the blue Posted September 3, 2011 Imagine my excitement when the postman delivered a package today! I hurriedly rushed into the kitchen to open my parcel. Hmm, it's not as big as I thought it would be... Can anyone read Chinese?... Ok, let's review this sucker! The Rating System Figures: 0/10 - There seems to be a distinct lack of minifigs. I was expecting around twenty but there don't seem to be ANY. Parts 0/10 - Just the one part. Blue. Flexible. Looks pretty much like a USB cable. Swooshability 1/10 - Not much swooshability. Maybe I could use it as a whip and pretend to be Indiana Jones. Design 0/10 - As a USB cable it's great. As a piece of Lego, not so much. Price 0/10 - £130 for a cable is a little overpriced as far as I'm concerned. Grand Total 1/50 - Not particularly happy with this set if I'm going to be perfectly honest.. So yes, it was a scam. I'll be spending most of tomorrow morning contacting eBay to see what can be done. I would do it tonight but it's been a tough day at work and I'd rather have a few beers than type out a long email. I suspect I'll have to post the cable back and wait for a few weeks until things get resolved. IF things get resolved. I'll keep y'all up to date, whatever happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sokratesz Posted September 3, 2011 Wow, they actually ship you something? That's 100% better than I expected! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
into the blue Posted September 3, 2011 Wow, they actually ship you something? That's 100% better than I expected! Yeah, lucky me, eh? And yes, I know the 'A' key on my laptop has worn away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asmodai Posted September 3, 2011 Yeah, lucky me, eh? And yes, I know the 'A' key on my laptop has worn away. Probably they send to have a receipt of sending something... Now you must claim a not as described on Paypal... I had a problem some years ago with a fake magic the gathering card and Paypal covered it, so I think you'll have no problem here... The process takes some time, because it's like a dialog in wich each sentence has a timeout of 2 weeks, or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbroyd Posted September 4, 2011 So yes, it was a scam. I'll be spending most of tomorrow morning contacting eBay to see what can be done. I would do it tonight but it's been a tough day at work and I'd rather have a few beers than type out a long email. I suspect I'll have to post the cable back and wait for a few weeks until things get resolved. IF things get resolved. I'll keep y'all up to date, whatever happens. Did you have to sign for the parcel? As they are obviously scamming you if you did not need to sign for the parcel the easiest way to get you money is to start an item not received dispute in Paypal (not ebay). If the seller cannot supply online confirmation of delivery then Paypal will automatically refund you. Sellers sometimes supply a fictious tracking number but a phone call to Paypal will sort that out If you did have to sign for it then to get a refund you need to open a SNAD (not as described) dispute in Paypal and you'll be asked to return it by traceable means. This means the hassle and cost of returning it, hence the above suggestion to start an item not received dispute if possible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
into the blue Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) Did you have to sign for the parcel? As they are obviously scamming you if you did not need to sign for the parcel the easiest way to get you money is to start an item not received dispute in Paypal (not ebay). If the seller cannot supply online confirmation of delivery then Paypal will automatically refund you. Sellers sometimes supply a fictious tracking number but a phone call to Paypal will sort that out If you did have to sign for it then to get a refund you need to open a SNAD (not as described) dispute in Paypal and you'll be asked to return it by traceable means. This means the hassle and cost of returning it, hence the above suggestion to start an item not received dispute if possible I suspected I might have been able to tell the postman "No thanks!" when he knocked on the door. Unfortunately I wasn't in when he called and another member of the household signed for it. Sending it back isn't really a big deal, it doesn't weigh much. It's just going to take a lot longer to sort things out. I am tempted to place a fish head in the envelope though, just as a thank you. But I reckon eBay wouldn't see the funny side. Edited September 4, 2011 by into the blue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roxio Posted September 5, 2011 I suspected I might have been able to tell the postman "No thanks!" when he knocked on the door. Unfortunately I wasn't in when he called and another member of the household signed for it. Sending it back isn't really a big deal, it doesn't weigh much. It's just going to take a lot longer to sort things out. I am tempted to place a fish head in the envelope though, just as a thank you. But I reckon eBay wouldn't see the funny side. I'd be telling ebay you won't be sending anything back when its been an obvious scam to the tune of £12k+ Why should you be out of pocket even more returning something to what is probably a phoney address. Ebay will be getting disputes from all the buyers so it will be obvious to them as well. Should be refunded and quickly. Threaten them with media exposure, that'll speed it up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wokajablocka Posted September 6, 2011 I suspected I might have been able to tell the postman "No thanks!" when he knocked on the door. Unfortunately I wasn't in when he called and another member of the household signed for it. Sending it back isn't really a big deal, it doesn't weigh much. It's just going to take a lot longer to sort things out. I am tempted to place a fish head in the envelope though, just as a thank you. But I reckon eBay wouldn't see the funny side. I bought a stolen iPhone 2 year back and paypal gave me my money back on a not as discribed dispute. You shouldnt have any problems gettign the money back, it will just take time. Dont worry into the blue I nearly fell for a scam the other month which was discussed a few pages back that wansent thorugh ebay or paypal so I would not have got my $$$ back. Just have to be carfull and always remember 'if it looks too good to be true it probably is!' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
into the blue Posted September 7, 2011 Update on the DDS. I opened a Paypal dispute case yesterday and this morning had a response from the seller. He offered me a partial refund of £30. I told him to stick it where the sun don't shine, I want all of my money back, thank you very much. Paypal are continuing to investigate the case. More news as it happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ang911 Posted September 10, 2011 Update on the DDS. I opened a Paypal dispute case yesterday and this morning had a response from the seller. He offered me a partial refund of £30. I told him to stick it where the sun don't shine, I want all of my money back, thank you very much. Paypal are continuing to investigate the case. More news as it happens. Couldn't you have gotten around the sending the item back part by saying he sent you an empty envelope.....would've scored yourself a USB able in the process....whats the seller gonna say...no I didn't send them an empty envelope I sent a USB cable....umm case closed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
into the blue Posted September 10, 2011 Couldn't you have gotten around the sending the item back part by saying he sent you an empty envelope.....would've scored yourself a USB able in the process....whats the seller gonna say...no I didn't send them an empty envelope I sent a USB cable....umm case closed I haven't had to send anything back at the moment as A) Paypal haven't asked me to and B) I don't have the seller's contact address, even though I asked eBay for it. And you're right, it's going to be a pretty dumb crook who admits his guilt like that. But quite frankly, I don't think he's too worried about the Paypal claim. He's got his money and he's laughing, he's not going to bother answering Paypal's questions. I'm guessing Paypal's insurance is going to cover the cost of reimbursement (hopefully). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r74 Posted September 20, 2011 I haven't had to send anything back at the moment as A) Paypal haven't asked me to and B) I don't have the seller's contact address, even though I asked eBay for it. And you're right, it's going to be a pretty dumb crook who admits his guilt like that. But quite frankly, I don't think he's too worried about the Paypal claim. He's got his money and he's laughing, he's not going to bother answering Paypal's questions. I'm guessing Paypal's insurance is going to cover the cost of reimbursement (hopefully). Whats the latest? Have you had full refund from paypal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lobot Posted September 20, 2011 It looks like they're back again on Ebay (Death Star for £136.60), be warned! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEGO-Star-Wars-Death-Star-10188-w-24-Minifigures-New-/190579310358?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item2c5f697f16 I've just reported this to Ebay and asked them to investigate. I could be wrong, but it looks similar to recent scams; old & established account that has been dormant for several years - I guess that it's been hacked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1980-Something-Space-Guy Posted September 20, 2011 Anyone knows if these scams have spread over to Bricklink? I certainly hope not! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
into the blue Posted September 20, 2011 I had two friends fall for the UCS Falcon rip-off that was around the same time as my DDS deal. They got in touch with me a few days ago to let me know that their Paypal disputes had been refunded. Still waiting to hear from Paypal regarding my case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dfenz Posted September 21, 2011 It looks like they're back again on Ebay (Death Star for £136.60), be warned! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEGO-Star-Wars-Death-Star-10188-w-24-Minifigures-New-/190579310358?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item2c5f697f16 I've just reported this to Ebay and asked them to investigate. I could be wrong, but it looks similar to recent scams; old & established account that has been dormant for several years - I guess that it's been hacked? Its since been removed. Ebay starting to get its act together? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sokratesz Posted September 21, 2011 Its since been removed. Ebay starting to get its act together? I hope so, they were being awfully slow about it a few weeks ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
