Jedi master Brick Posted August 20, 2011 Has the power to rival any jedi Why is a gungan beating him up in series 4 then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Man Posted August 20, 2011 Why is a gungan beating him up in series 4 then It's a magic gungan . Maybe they should re/introduce Durge if GG gets to be too week or boring this season or next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonjedi Posted August 20, 2011 Well when CW first came out I got a free poster from the Mirror that says: So Brickdoctor/Fallenangel, where does free posters from terrible 'newspapers' fit in with your canon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brickdoctor Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) So Brickdoctor/Fallenangel, where does free posters from terrible 'newspapers' fit in with your canon? Since that information apparently came from a CW interview, it would be T-canon, overriding the established backstory of C-canon status.I should point out that I like to follow the rules when it comes to canonicity, and if the writers decide something should be rewritten, so be it. I might not like it or agree with it, but I will consider it the new canon backstory. Edited August 20, 2011 by Brickdoctor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oky Posted August 20, 2011 It's not just the poster and interview. A few other sources state something similar as well, including the Clone Wars Visual Guide. So face it, people, it's canon... Until they retcon it again, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Man Posted August 21, 2011 'terrible 'newspapers'' it's not. Since that information apparently came from a CW interview, it would be T-canon, overriding the established backstory of C-canon status. I think that the wanting to beat Jedi backstory is more fitting with GG 'Proud Warrior Race Guy' origins. He wants to be the best warrior around and by his choice not forced into it to be saved by death to become a pawn for Dooku. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artanis I Posted August 22, 2011 Though that wouldn't be so bad, because in Menace Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon don't seem that surprised or intimidated by Maul. They were definitely surprised by his appearance on Tatooine. And the report was "...I/we think he may be a Sith..." Weren't the Sith were thought to be extinct prior to the events of Menace? So said the Jedi High Council. Even if GG gets GG'd (see what I did there ...) and rebuilt/rebirthed whatever, how would you explain the presence of the cough in Ep III? I think what should've happened is that he only had 2 arms for the entirety of The Clone Wars - giving him an excuse to suck in it, then get an upgrade for the movie and unleash some awesome with a "Surprise General Kenobi, I've now got 4 arms!" "Well, Grievous, I've always had forearms" (in typical Obi Wan wit) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fallenangel Posted August 22, 2011 They were definitely surprised by his appearance on Tatooine. And the report was "...I/we think he may be a Sith..." I think Brickdoctor was making a reference to Ewan and Liam's acting skills. Even if GG gets GG'd (see what I did there ...) and rebuilt/rebirthed whatever, how would you explain the presence of the cough in Ep III? I think what should've happened is that he only had 2 arms for the entirety of The Clone Wars - giving him an excuse to suck in it, then get an upgrade for the movie and unleash some awesome with a "Surprise General Kenobi, I've now got 4 arms!" "Well, Grievous, I've always had forearms" (in typical Obi Wan wit) If we were to keep the '03 series canon, both Grievous' cough and his four arms would be adequately explained. Actually, it may even be plausible to revise the canon in such a way that both accounts of Grievous' origins are kept - say, Grievous first enhanced himself in order to become more powerful (in accordance with the 'revised' backstory as given by Filoni), then was rebuilt with a more powerful body after Dooku crashed his shuttle (thus maintaining the vehemence toward the Jedi that would fuel his agressive lightsaber fighting style). Tell me if this would conflict with any existing canon (aside from the obvious fact that the shuttle crash would have to take place well into the war). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brickdoctor Posted August 22, 2011 They were definitely surprised by his appearance on Tatooine. And the report was "...I/we think he may be a Sith..." So said the Jedi High Council. How could I forget that? "Surprise General Kenobi, I've now got 4 arms!" "Well, Grievous, I've always had forearms" (in typical Obi Wan wit) In any case, I don't see the current portrayal of Grievous changing. Though they said that at the end the whole storyline would be clarified to make sense, I doubt they made a new higher level of canonicity just for CW with no intention of just having CW override everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Man Posted August 22, 2011 I doubt they made a new higher level of canonicity just for CW with no intention of just having CW override everything. Having TCW override books and comics is no problem, the problem starts when TCW clashes with CW and ROTS. They should have been more careful with GG especial as his cough was caused in CW (which the second half takes after TCW) and his 4 arms where a surprise etc. I don't mind TCW overriding books or comics (even TCW comics) but when it clashes with the films or CW, that's just bad writing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brickdoctor Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) Having TCW override books and comics is no problem, the problem starts when TCW clashes with CW and ROTS. They should have been more careful with GG especial as his cough was caused in CW (which the second half takes after TCW) and his 4 arms where a surprise etc. I don't mind TCW overriding books or comics (even TCW comics) but when it clashes with the films or CW, that's just bad writing. If it majorly contradicts Sith I think even the CW advocates here would have to agree that would be a pretty bad decision to approve such an episode on Lucas' part, though it wouldn't matter since the G-canon status of the movies is higher than the T-canon status of the TV show. The real issue is if the TV show contradicts the movie, leading Lucas to redo the movie. (fear of that goes way back to the first time we saw Ahsoka and worried that she'd be edited into Sith) I would have to agree that for that to happen, some bad writing and some bad decisions will take place, but I'm always hopeful whenever a new CW Season comes out that I'll be pleasantly surprised by an increase in quality. Even being an OT fan, I enjoyed parts of the '03 series. Edited August 22, 2011 by Brickdoctor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Legonater Posted August 22, 2011 Seriously, tCW has messsed up so many things that nothing linked to it makes sence anymore. The only way that it can remain canon and not flip half the things in that time period upside down is if it's some kind of in-universe propoganda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Man Posted August 22, 2011 The only way that it can remain canon and not flip half the things in that time period upside down is if it's some kind of in-universe propoganda. Like the super human Jedi powers in the CW where explained away as being an in universe cartoon drawn by a character in one of the episodes where he is saved by Mace Windu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
commdr_neyo Posted August 24, 2011 I believe this hasn't really been spotted here: Grievous vs. Asajj! It's from the trailer, I believe. I wonder why Grievous is on the Nightsister planet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Man Posted August 24, 2011 I believe this hasn't really been spotted here: I think it was but it kinda got overshadowed by the GG arguments. Maybe with Savage gone CD sent GG to go eliminate Ventress to prevent her being a possible threat to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
commdr_neyo Posted August 24, 2011 I think it was but it kinda got overshadowed by the GG arguments. Maybe with Savage gone CD sent GG to go eliminate Ventress to prevent her being a possible threat to him. What happened to Savage, I can't even remember.. Didn't he go to 'some planet' to visit 'one of his brothers', which looked a horribly lot like Maul? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
commanderneyo Posted August 24, 2011 What happened to Savage, I can't even remember.. Didn't he go to 'some planet' to visit 'one of his brothers', which looked a horribly lot like Maul? Yes, it is Maul. Maul will appear in S4. Confirmed at Comic-Con. If it wasn't obvious from S3 E14. And to someone's suspicion, Dooku is after Ventress yes, so assumes she'll be with the Nightsisters, and that's how the Battle of Dathomir begins... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Builder Posted August 24, 2011 And to someone's suspicion, Dooku is after Ventress yes, so assumes she'll be with the Nightsisters, and that's how the Battle of Dathomir begins... Yeah that's what I would think. Hopefully Grievous kills her. We'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi master Brick Posted August 24, 2011 Yes, it is Maul. So getting cut in half and falling a few hundred meters no longer kills someone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMP Posted August 24, 2011 So getting cut in half and falling a few hundred meters no longer kills someone He'll probably appear in a vision or something. If he's still alive, then the CW will have completely lost it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
commdr_neyo Posted August 24, 2011 He'll probably appear in a vision or something. If he's still alive, then the CW will have completely lost it. I agree, but it's not completely impossible, since there's a book/comic where Darth Maul with robotic legs, searches for Ben Kenobi, and then finaly Ben kills him.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KisKatona Posted August 24, 2011 I agree, but it's not completely impossible, since there's a book/comic where Darth Maul with robotic legs, searches for Ben Kenobi, and then finaly Ben kills him.. Nah, that's not in the real universe. It's just a alternate universe thingy. But hey, Darth Maul's body with Grievous' legs! Who could've thought of that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonjedi Posted August 25, 2011 Nah, that's not in the real universe. It's just a alternate universe thingy. But hey, Darth Maul's body with Grievous' legs! Who could've thought of that? Me and my mates from like 2001. I remember talking about him returning, when we were discussing how awesome Episode II would be. Oh how wrong we were! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KisKatona Posted August 25, 2011 Yeah, once they introduced Dooku in Ep.II, I hated him. Maul just seemed cooler and more evil-ish. Oh, and did anyone catch Cody in Phase 2 armor? And Rex looks awesome too. The mix is kinda weird though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMP Posted August 25, 2011 Me and my mates from like 2001. I remember talking about him returning, when we were discussing how awesome Episode II would be. Oh how wrong we were! What, you didn't learn your lesson in 1998? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
