LEGO Star Wars Set Discussion 2025 - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Coryo]

I could see a boycott in opposition to the pricing of the smart brick sets being far more successful than the recent wave, since the clone bros wouldn't be interested, kids may be priced out, and most OT fans likely already have versions of the vehicles and characters if they've been collecting for 5+ years.

Integrating technology into Lego doesn't ever seem necessary to me, even light & sound bricks just come across as gimmicky.

1 hour ago, brimbolet said:

Wouldn't be surprised if there was an agreement with Disney that Lego is allowed to make only one system set for Andor, and they decided to make the U-Wing.

Do you mean an agreement that would force a limit on how many Andor sets they could make? I don't see how that would benefit either company.

[AD_Bricks]

5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yeah, this is remarkably bad. The specific parts used let us get an idea of the size, and it's a (generously) $40 set with a brick they're claiming is $60 of tech. And honestly, even if whatever they're putting in that brick really costs that much, it's still a bad idea for a set.

Looking at the 2024 smart brick City sets from the UK trial program, I feel like these new sets will almost certainly have a couple of interactive sidebuilds each. I don't think the tiny X-Wing will be the only thing in the set, there's no way they'd try selling that on its own. If the smart brick is the selling point, it'll surely come with things to do with it besides fire lasers into thin air, lol.

(Not that that justifies the price of the set overall, but I think that's why the X-Wing looks like only $40)

[VBBN]

3 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Hot Toys uses flakey, deteriorating faux leather that has a shorter shelf life than early 00’s Lego stickers.

More modern artisan figures do have  genuine leather elements, wool hair and now seamless jointed figures use medical grade silicone, InArt has been leading the charge on that front. It’s dependent on where you live though, any figures I have with faux leather are still pristine, some of those over 10 years old. 
 

not to get off topic there though, my point was moreso that the added cost of a HT figure for example means using far more realistic looking materials than some like like say, a Hasbro action figure. But the rising price floor of massive Lego sets do not offer such improvements to quality in any way, be it printing, materials, mini figure detailing etc. 

[mirkwoodspiders]

1 hour ago, VBBN said:

It’s not nearly the same level of awe inspiring that the Falcon conveyed when it came out; how does this set revolutionize what’s possible in Lego other than being obscenely expensive?

This is an interesting angle, and one I hadn't thought of before. $1,000 should be groundbreaking in some way. Maybe there's more to the set than meets the eye, particularly with functions, that we'll discover it in the reviews. But, so far nothing indicates it's much more than a lot of bricks representing familiar scenes. Interesting, but not compelling.

[Meaf]

6 hours ago, Llewop said:

Question for everyone with long memories now that we’ve seen the pics for the Death Star am I the only one that thinks it sounds like a lot of what the rumors where hinting at for the cal kestis set last year before it became a ISD? Someone could have seen some prelims like in the big 2022/3 prelim leak and just got the wrong info on what it really was? Either that or it’s just a big coincidence or my only personal theory is that one of the designers of the Death Star set was reading how much we all wanted a Death Star play set and made it happen and now we hate it for the price :D 

It's definitely not impossible but iirc most of those rumors pointed more towards it being an imperial base that was not the Death Star, or at least wasn't obviously supposed to be part of it. I still feel that the more likely (but less interesting) possibility is that it was always an ISD and the rumors about it being a base of some sort were just down to a game of leaker telephone gone wrong. Certainly wouldn't be the first time it's happened, and no doubt not the last either.

[Llewop]

1 hour ago, Meaf said:

It's definitely not impossible but iirc most of those rumors pointed more towards it being an imperial base that was not the Death Star, or at least wasn't obviously supposed to be part of it. I still feel that the more likely (but less interesting) possibility is that it was always an ISD and the rumors about it being a base of some sort were just down to a game of leaker telephone gone wrong. Certainly wouldn't be the first time it's happened, and no doubt not the last either.

Just find it a crazy coincidence how we was all hoping for a set with all these kind of scenes spurred on by a rumour of an imperial base. I always thought the rumour was it was a big Death Star play set as at the time a few assumed it would be the imperial equivalent to the Yavin set. 

[Swordy]

13 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm not actually so sure about that. We as fans knew about the night troopers (albiet as "kintsugi troopers"), Thrawn, Morgan with a spirit sword, Ahsoka the White, Ezra using "force karate", etc I want to say like a year before the show released. I think it's more likely this was in the works beforehand and scheduled to release after the show due to being a "spoiler" set. I also just don't think that lego would have rushed a set to production so fast for Ahsoka- while I liked the show, there's no evidence it was a baby yoda or NWH level moneymaker, so I can't see lego getting a set for it out within a year when No Way Home took them 1.5.

Just because we didn’t know of the TIE Avenger a year prior thanks to some outrageous leaks doesn’t mean it wasn’t in circulation behind closed doors. Juxtaposed to Andor, which had no leaks aside from maybe the Coruscant Spaceport, Ahsoka had massive leaks from the finale episodes, which still surprises me to this day. If development on the Ahsoka finale began a year prior, then the same could be true of Andor’s premiere—moreover, of a practical set that Lucasfilm showed off in every trailer leading up to release.

TLG must have known, must have been given the choice, and choose the returning U-Wing over a new TIE variant. While I still hope we see a TIE Avenger next year, I’m beginning to doubt if TLG will ever revisit Andor in the system scale. Never say never, but the longer the wait, the slimmer our chances.

Edited 16 hours ago by Swordy

[brimbolet]

8 hours ago, Coryo said:

Do you mean an agreement that would force a limit on how many Andor sets they could make? I don't see how that would benefit either company.

Yes, there must be reason why both seasons got only one system set each. Andor has so much potential for battle packs, bases on different planets and spaceships, but close to nothing was implemented.

9 minutes ago, Swordy said:

TLG must have known, must have been given the choice, and choose the returning U-Wing over a new TIE variant. While I still hope we see a TIE Avenger next year, I’m beginning to doubt if TLG will ever revisit Andor in the system scale. Never say never, but the longer the wait, the slimmer our chances.

Unfortunately I think you're right. But maybe Disney will surprise us all and figure out how to squeeze a 3 season into the current storyline. Then we'll get more sets at least. 

[TheScaryDoor]

12 minutes ago, Swordy said:

TLG must have known, must have been given the choice, and choose the returning U-Wing over a new TIE variant. While I still hope we see a TIE Avenger next year, I’m beginning to doubt if TLG will ever revisit Andor in the system scale. Never say never, but the longer the wait, the slimmer our chances.

I think TLG played it save and brought two sets for Andor S2 which also worked for Rogue One. I hope for more sets but this should better be happen next year or latest the year after.

[Swordy]

21 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

And yeah, for how heavily the Clone craziness is critized in here and now that we get some more OT stuff again, i ask... Is the 37th X-Wing on paper really any better or interesting than TCW overload in practice? At least, a lot of these sets provide long requested remakes and something new to the table, as we have discussed numerous times by now! 

(Whoops, I wrote a short essay again. )

I’m going to sound picky when I say this, but no, this is not for what we asked. We have contended that affordable playsets from the OT—arguably the strongest and definitely most central piece of SW—is better than the current state. That includes the TIE-Wing V X-Fighter; it’s unique, but then there’s the weak minifig selection. (To give an example the Clone Bros would detest, it’d be like an AAT and AT-TE with swappable parts included a fanfiction clone legion and made-up Jedi.) This newest rumor succeeds at unique but fails in reaching its audience.
To have a classic X-Wing with classic minifigs from the classic films is repetitive, yes, and I probably wouldn’t buy it, but it’s a necessary purchase for any new fan. Unlike we on the Eurobricks, most new AFoLs, and most of all kids, don’t have ten versions of Luke, Han, or Leia. A boring set to me in mid ‘25 was not so when I began in late ‘19, and the same will be true of the kid buying his first LSW set today. 

The OT works, and so does the PT, TCW, Mando, and even the ST. My issue, I realize, isn’t necessarily with this year in particular—although there’s many problems—but with the direction of the theme as a whole. More over-priced sets, more gimmicks, more collectible minifigs locked behind large paywalls. The MTT and Clone Tiny Tank aren’t accessible to kids, and the latter isn’t even made that well to be a kid’s toy! If LEGO wants to survive to the next generation, we need the repetitive mixed with our shulp gittos, but with a proper understanding of the fans of each.

Since you ask of in practice vs on paper, let’s review.

Clone Mania in practice: Clone troopers are derided for their inaccuracies (which is valid, but I wonder if the designers are being intentional to cause a stir), the sets with massable figures are up-charged (V-19 and JFS1 are the only two with reasonable prices, and neither contain three of the same minifg), the character selection is poorer than Sam’s Doomsday Avengers, the return of older models are diminishing at best, there’s no current project tie-in or appeal to general public knowledge, 

37th X-Wing on paper: I’m guessing you’re counting advent calendar builds, polybags, and mini kits, right? Then the same has to be said of CW-era minibuilds, too, but I digress.
I dislike the current rumor for the 2026 X-Wing because it isn’t affordable nor proper for a perianal X-Wing. The smart brick is new and interesting, if that’s what you’re after. Imagine if the next Clone BP was overpriced because of a gimmick… of wait, they did it without the gimmick anyway. For both the 327th Clone BP and 327th iteration of X-Wing, I believe both will flop just as hard because both miscalculate the wants of each audience.

I’ll add this thought that’s still developing: one generation of fans grew up collecting ships and characters, then the other grew up collecting factions and action figures. That very difference in the OT vs PT toy markets is on display in the opinions discussed on this forum, I feel.

 

9 hours ago, Coryo said:

I could see a boycott in opposition to the pricing

This isn’t boycotting. This is the voting with your wallet. A boycott would never work because of secondhand business owners and adults with little self-control. Remember that pricing is entirely subjective; some objective points, but lots of minutia in between for us enthusiasts. Public opinion will decide if “these LEGOs are too expensive” or not.

11 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I don‘t recall anyone openly asking for a new TIE Advanced before I foolishly brought up the idea recently, at least not as much as other set ideas. 

Not back in 2023 with the Bomber and Interceptor? Not on the LSW Wishlist forum? Way to dismiss any OT fan’s dreams. At any rate, it’s a popular vehicle from the first SW movie.

I do believe many would’ve rathered a TIE Advanced V Y-Wing in ‘27, but a TIE Advanced at all is a worthy return in my books. It’s a shame it’ll likely be ruined by a pricey piece of unnecessary electronics.

Edited 15 hours ago by Swordy
How do I keep hitting the button for sending the comment prematurely? If I had a nickel for every time it happened this evening, I’d have two, which is a 1/10,000 of a way to affording the new DS.

[CloneCommando99]

Today’s Tie Avenger post was inspired by the blasphemous sponge’s actions yesterday

Day #111 of Tie Avenger campaign. (Bonus points for whoever gets this very paraphrased reference)

20 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

Disregard the blasphemer, they mean only to deceive. TIE Avenger must and will happen.

Yes. Heresy will not be tolerated.

19 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Hey, I’m a pretty vocal advocate for a TIE Avenger set! I only blaspheme against everyone‘s favourite redhead waifu here

Which is still a cardinal sin. The red ‘waifu’ will prevail. She wills the Tie Avenger

11 hours ago, brimbolet said:

Wouldn't be surprised if there was an agreement with Disney that Lego is allowed to make only one system set for Andor, and they decided to make the U-Wing. K2so falls into the buildable character category. 

But why would they do that? Surely Disney would want to promote its content. And Lego literally had nothing else to make but clone sets this year.

 

The U-Wing is doing well. And hopefully that is the key to Tie Avenger.

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

Just because we didn’t know of the TIE Avenger a year prior thanks to some outrageous leaks doesn’t mean it wasn’t in circulation behind closed doors. Juxtaposed to Andor, which had no leaks aside from maybe the Coruscant Spaceport, Ahsoka had massive leaks from the finale episodes, which still surprises me to this day. If development on the Ahsoka finale began a year prior, then the same could be true of Andor’s premiere—moreover, of a practical set that Lucasfilm showed off in every trailer leading up to release.

TLG must have known, must have been given the choice, and choose the returning U-Wing over a new TIE variant. While I still hope we see a TIE Avenger next year, I’m beginning to doubt if TLG will ever revisit Andor in the system scale. Never say never, but the longer the wait, the slimmer our chances.

Actually, Andor S2’s premiere episodes were the last to be filmed. Particularly the Tie Avenger in the Sienar Hangar scene. 

 

Is that heresy I smell? The Tie Avenger will be made. Fate demands it. /s

[BrickBob Studpants]

7 minutes ago, Swordy said:

Not back in 2023 with the Bomber and Interceptor? Not on the LSW Wishlist forum? Way to dismiss any OT fan’s dreams. At any rate, it’s a popular vehicle from the first SW movie.

Not aiming very high if the fourth remake of a set is your dream  (and that‘s me being generous by not counting the versions in the two Death Stars and Vader‘s Fortress or the rereleases of the 1999 set)

To each their own, but even within the realm of OT remakes I can easily think of more exciting options, like a B-Wing for instance. Or another set with Mon Mothma! 

[TheScaryDoor]

9 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Not aiming very high if the fourth remake of a set is your dream  (and that‘s me being generous by not counting the versions in the two Death Stars and Vader‘s Fortress or the rereleases of the 1999 set)

To each their own, but even within the realm of OT remakes I can easily think of more exciting options, like a B-Wing for instance. Or another set with Mon Mothma! 

I think a Tie Advanced as an single set is totally different from the attachment for the DS or Vader's Fortress. For me these are apples and oranges. 

And I don't own a single Tie Advanced set. Therefore I'm very happy because I really like the ship and the last one was a long time ago in my dark ages.

[brimbolet]

15 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

But why would they do that? Surely Disney would want to promote its content. And Lego literally had nothing else to make but clone sets this year.

The U-Wing is doing well. And hopefully that is the key to Tie Avenger.

There must be some reason. Andor is the best series, perhaps Disney doesn't feel additional promotion is necessary? They get plenty of money from various merchandise anyway. Or Lego thinks that the live action series are aimed at an older audience and that's why they are focusing on Clone War sets?

Besides the TIE Avenger I'd really like to have the Fondor too. And a proper molded Rancor!

[MKJoshA]

Even if Lego can't make a TIE Avenger tied to Andor due to licensing rules (which is speculation), they could always make one for Rebuild the Galaxy. Que the Jurassic Park meme... TIE Avenger, uh, uh, finds a way.

[Tariq j]

9 hours ago, VBBN said:

Nor does it feel special or grand enough to be THE $1k lego set. It’s not nearly the same level of awe inspiring that the Falcon conveyed when it came out; how does this set revolutionize what’s possible in Lego other than being obscenely expensive?

8 hours ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

This is an interesting angle, and one I hadn't thought of before. $1,000 should be groundbreaking in some way. Maybe there's more to the set than meets the eye, particularly with functions, that we'll discover it in the reviews. But, so far nothing indicates it's much more than a lot of bricks representing familiar scenes. Interesting, but not compelling.

Yeah, aside from being big and containing 40 figures (many of which lack dual moulded legs) - what is the set really bringing to the table for $1000? Something like Ewok Village had never been done before and the D2C Mos Eisley Cantina was designed with an incredible level of detail featuring some long awaited characters and alien moulds. I’m sure it’ll obviously look impressive on display but at the moment it feels like the designers wanted to make more DS diorama sets but then decided to combine them all into one set. 

[CallumPears]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Not aiming very high if the fourth remake of a set is your dream  (and that‘s me being generous by not counting the versions in the two Death Stars and Vader‘s Fortress or the rereleases of the 1999 set)

I've been wanting a new TIE Advanced for a few years now. I actually have 2 of the old blue ones and the small one from the Death Star but those are nothing like the quality of modern sets.

I also already had 2 copies of the 4479 TIE Bomber, but was very excited for the new one a couple of years ago- same applies to Vader's TIE since other than the Rebels 2-pack set we don't have a version of it which matches modern TIE designs (and that Rebels one could be greatly improved). 

Of course we'll have to wait to see if the rumoured one is good, or if it is messed up like what the X-wing is said to be. 

[Flieger]

1 hour ago, Tariq j said:

Yeah, aside from being big and containing 40 figures (many of which lack dual moulded legs) - what is the set really bringing to the table for $1000? Something like Ewok Village had never been done before and the D2C Mos Eisley Cantina was designed with an incredible level of detail featuring some long awaited characters and alien moulds. I’m sure it’ll obviously look impressive on display but at the moment it feels like the designers wanted to make more DS diorama sets but then decided to combine them all into one set. 

I am fine with combined diorama approach, the minifigs however are the greatest letdown:
- mediocre quality (lack of boots for the officer e.g.)
- inaccuracies (Yularen's pants e.g.)
- lack of new minifigs (Death Squad Commander, Mechanical Crew aka Janitor, or a new variation of the DS Gunner uniforms e.g.)
- and imo not enough figures (only one of Palpatine's Advisors? Two navy troopers only? No TIE pilot)

And that is before seeing the minifigs in detail. I hope Motti and Tagge got the correct rank insignia and code cylinders for example. The standard lazy answer that kids would not care about those details (which is factually wrong anyway) does not apply to a 1000€ set. This thing needs to be perfection, especially when it comes to the figures because they are Lego's most vital assett. 

[BrickPrick]

7 hours ago, Swordy said:

(Whoops, I wrote a short essay again. )

I’m going to sound picky when I say this, but no, this is not for what we asked. We have contended that affordable playsets from the OT—arguably the strongest and definitely most central piece of SW—is better than the current state. That includes the TIE-Wing V X-Fighter; it’s unique, but then there’s the weak minifig selection. (To give an example the Clone Bros would detest, it’d be like an AAT and AT-TE with swappable parts included a fanfiction clone legion and made-up Jedi.) This newest rumor succeeds at unique but fails in reaching its audience.
To have a classic X-Wing with classic minifigs from the classic films is repetitive, yes, and I probably wouldn’t buy it, but it’s a necessary purchase for any new fan. Unlike we on the Eurobricks, most new AFoLs, and most of all kids, don’t have ten versions of Luke, Han, or Leia. A boring set to me in mid ‘25 was not so when I began in late ‘19, and the same will be true of the kid buying his first LSW set today. 

The OT works, and so does the PT, TCW, Mando, and even the ST. My issue, I realize, isn’t necessarily with this year in particular—although there’s many problems—but with the direction of the theme as a whole. More over-priced sets, more gimmicks, more collectible minifigs locked behind large paywalls. The MTT and Clone Tiny Tank aren’t accessible to kids, and the latter isn’t even made that well to be a kid’s toy! If LEGO wants to survive to the next generation, we need the repetitive mixed with our shulp gittos, but with a proper understanding of the fans of each.

Since you ask of in practice vs on paper, let’s review.

Clone Mania in practice: Clone troopers are derided for their inaccuracies (which is valid, but I wonder if the designers are being intentional to cause a stir), the sets with massable figures are up-charged (V-19 and JFS1 are the only two with reasonable prices, and neither contain three of the same minifg), the character selection is poorer than Sam’s Doomsday Avengers, the return of older models are diminishing at best, there’s no current project tie-in or appeal to general public knowledge, 

37th X-Wing on paper: I’m guessing you’re counting advent calendar builds, polybags, and mini kits, right? Then the same has to be said of CW-era minibuilds, too, but I digress.
I dislike the current rumor for the 2026 X-Wing because it isn’t affordable nor proper for a perianal X-Wing. The smart brick is new and interesting, if that’s what you’re after. Imagine if the next Clone BP was overpriced because of a gimmick… of wait, they did it without the gimmick anyway. For both the 327th Clone BP and 327th iteration of X-Wing, I believe both will flop just as hard because both miscalculate the wants of each audience.

I’ll add this thought that’s still developing: one generation of fans grew up collecting ships and characters, then the other grew up collecting factions and action figures. That very difference in the OT vs PT toy markets is on display in the opinions discussed on this forum, I feel.

Ha, why am i not surprised you are jumping at my neck again with one of your essays. 

I don't feel like returning this favor of yours right now, so my short answer is: i know. 

I know this is not what most of you guys (critical of clone craziness) want when demanding more OT sets again. That was more of a rhetorical question on my part, when replying to a provocative posting. And i still agree that the ongoing overload of various gimmicky formats is the true cause for this theme going in a questionable direction. Otherwise, we would have better balance all around, so these TCW/PT things wouldn't have to be considered anything like an "Extravaganza", it would be just one side of the coin. 

And i know how this whole thing works in terms of catering to new customers vs. established ones, the former is heavily priorized by TLG... or any big business for that matter. As Lego, much like Star Wars, is a generational thing. Just because something is generic and boring to us AFOL's at a certain point, that obviously ain't the case for a younger, inexperienced target audience. New kids always grow up, get to see Star Wars for the first time, so they understandably want to play with a cool looking Rebellion or Imperial ship just as much as we wanted that in our younger years. 

Ha, no, I'm not counting anything in this regard. The "37" is my deliberate exaggerated way of saying "Master Skywalker, there are too many of them, what are we going to do?". It used to be 10K back in the day, but i felt like that was a bit overkill. So i settled down to 37. Though the other number probably wouldn't have caused any confusion for you, i suppose.

Anyhow, you still remember our little debate about whether or not the upcoming Tiny Turbo Tank was constructed as a test balloon by Lego? Now that we know all the bells and whistles of the whole thing, you still stand by your point that there is no risk involved releasing such a set in this condition, while also asking for this amount of money? And therefore, in your book, it never could have been a test ballon in the first place? 

And to be clear... You didn't sound picky to me at all. Because what you were telling me is true... from a certain point of view. 

Edited 8 hours ago by BrickPrick

[lomis]

1 hour ago, Flieger said:

I hope Motti and Tagge got the correct rank insignia and code cylinders for example.

Oh no... I hadn't even thought that could be an issue, but you're right. Hopefully, they don't mess that up.

Honestly, the lack of dual molded legs is the biggest head scratcher for me.
I don't really understand why figures that have had them in the past can't have them in the most expensive set ever.
It's really bizarre.

[ArrowBricks]

5 hours ago, lomis said:

Honestly, the lack of dual molded legs is the biggest head scratcher for me.
I don't really understand why figures that have had them in the past can't have them in the most expensive set ever.
It's really bizarre.

It’s worrying. It’s almost as if they can’t afford it. In other words the higher ups are squeezing budgets or more likely production costs are higher. There’s no other explanation. 

[Yperio_Bricks]

34 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said:

It’s worrying. It’s almost as if they can’t afford it. In other words the higher ups are squeezing budgets or more likely production costs are higher. There’s no other explanation. 

I posted a picture in this thread before but I don't know how to find my post. The dual-molded DBG legs with black boots are actually cheaper at PAB than the regular DBG legs. I guess the dual-molded ones are produced in masses because people buy so many of them. So at least this part should be rather cheap. It puzzles me, why this of all parts, didn't make it into the $1000 set. It easily makes a minifig better.

[BrickPrick]

1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said:

It’s worrying. It’s almost as if they can’t afford it. In other words the higher ups are squeezing budgets or more likely production costs are higher. There’s no other explanation. 

I think the people who actually design the sets really can't afford such things. At least not without compromising other aspects. While the higher ups who get to decide the overall budget constraints probably can, but don't. I remember one of the designers was interviewed about the lack of dual moulded legs for the new young Boba Fett in the UCS Slave 1. And he said that they prioritized some design aspects of the actual ship over that. 

Edited 4 hours ago by BrickPrick

[brimbolet]

Sorry but I don't believe any designer who claims that compromises have to be made in 300+$ sets. Dual molded legs are perhaps not always necessary but Lego makes enormous profits, if they can't improve the printing quality (e.g. white/yellow on torsos/colored bricks) or reduce the amount of stickers than they can't charge such high prices.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by brimbolet

[BrickPrick]

37 minutes ago, brimbolet said:

Sorry but I don't believe any designer who claims that compromises have to be made in 300+$ sets. Dual molded legs are perhaps not always necessary but Lego makes enormous profits, if they can't improve the printing quality (e.g. white/yellow on torsos/colored bricks) or reduce the amount of stickers than they can't charge such high prices.

Some compromises need to be made in the context of them having a pretty tight budget. The designers all visited PR school as well and say what they are supposed to say. Of course, they won't straight up tell you "we would if we could", blame their bosses and express their true feelings towards this. They are seemingly and simply not allowed to go above and beyond for many sets. I doubt that anyone would question Lego's huge profit margins and that they happen due to some unreasonable cost cutting. As a consumer, yes, i'd say either stop with the blatant penny pinching or at least stop with the constant price hikes. But that's mere wishful thinking that doesn't come to fruition as long as people keep buying even the bad stuff.